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Amid strikes, one question: Are employers miscalculating?

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  1. [2]
    ignorabimus
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    Given the unions’ apparent bargaining power and the economic costs to a prolonged work stoppage, the question arises: Why wouldn’t management make its eventual concessions more quickly?

    The answer, many union and management experts say, is that employers are increasingly miscalculating — acting from a template that applied in previous decades, when employees had little leverage, and underestimating the frustration and resolve in the postpandemic work force.

    “Psychologically, it’s a big shift: They’ve been in control. They have been able to tell their representatives to go and get concessions on X and Y, to make sure the wage increase is modest,” said Thomas Kochan, an emeritus management professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, referring to corporate executives.

    In Hollywood, the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, which represents entertainment companies in negotiations with writers, directors and actors, has frequently tried to forge a deal with one of the three guilds, then push the other two to accept similar terms.

    That appeared to be the group’s strategy this year as well: After the writers went on strike in May, the alliance reached a deal with directors the next month. But any hope that the writers would be isolated collapsed when SAG-AFTRA, the union representing more than 150,000 actors, went on strike in July.

    But in many cases, what has changed is not so much the bluster from union leaders as their willingness to follow through — a potentially disruptive shift after years of often empty threats.

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    1. vord
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      This bit right here, this is the key to why striking is a critical right for all workers, no matter how critical the role. Stripping them of that right strips of them of the only real power they...

      But in many cases, what has changed is not so much the bluster from union leaders as their willingness to follow through — a potentially disruptive shift after years of often empty threats.

      This bit right here, this is the key to why striking is a critical right for all workers, no matter how critical the role.

      Stripping them of that right strips of them of the only real power they have: To stop the flow of money/services to prove how essential they are.

      Doctors, nurses, dock workers, air traffic controllers...they all need to be able to strike if the conditions require it.

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    first-must-burn
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    I'm trying to decide if the similarity of his name to Sinn Féin is just a coincidence.

    But in the run-up to this year’s mid-September strike deadline, the union’s new president, Shawn Fain, appeared to wrong-foot executives at Ford Motor, General Motors and Stellantis

    I'm trying to decide if the similarity of his name to Sinn Féin is just a coincidence.

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    1. wervenyt
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      He was discussed a bit on an episode of Planet Money this week, and I had to rewind to check that I hadn't somehow skipped to an entirely different podcast for exactly that reason.

      He was discussed a bit on an episode of Planet Money this week, and I had to rewind to check that I hadn't somehow skipped to an entirely different podcast for exactly that reason.

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    flowerdance
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    Because union leaders are easily bought out with underhanded deals that can't easily be sniffed out by union members. It's been an obvious problem from the very beginning. All that we have right...

    Because union leaders are easily bought out with underhanded deals that can't easily be sniffed out by union members. It's been an obvious problem from the very beginning. All that we have right now are just empty threats and virtue signalling as the people at the top are already making very good money. They want the rest to stay where they are, only throwing out these strike authorizations to placate some pent up frustrations in the same way volcanoes need to explode or earthquakes need to happen to release stored potential energy.

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      TreeFiddyFiddy
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      Hi do you have any sources for these sorts of deals or corruption for top union leaders? These are the types of things that we often hear about but I'm genuinely curious if these stories are...

      Hi do you have any sources for these sorts of deals or corruption for top union leaders? These are the types of things that we often hear about but I'm genuinely curious if these stories are actually bakced up by anything

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      1. [2]
        flowerdance
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        You can just as easily Google union corruption. With that said, given the nature of strikes (costing some multi-millions to billions if we are to believe the claims), then corruption will surely...

        You can just as easily Google union corruption. With that said, given the nature of strikes (costing some multi-millions to billions if we are to believe the claims), then corruption will surely be present. I don't need to be jaded to be cynical about such things. I just need to look realistically at the scenarios that play out. SAG-Aftra itself is just theatrics. They go on strike every couple of years and I fondly remember they went on one when Heroes was showing.

        But if were to tunnel further, just because something wasn't reported on, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just as complex physical phenomena exist outside of our reporting or understanding of them.

        1. TreeFiddyFiddy
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          I just want to point out that it's customary for the person making claims in a discourse to provide the evidence to back up those claims. You have a lot of conjecture here that does not line up...

          I just want to point out that it's customary for the person making claims in a discourse to provide the evidence to back up those claims. You have a lot of conjecture here that does not line up with reality, the strikes during the Heroes run was well more than a couple of years ago. If you'd like to show me that high level union leaders are getting kickbacks from industry, I'm all ears

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