That was the most unrelatable thing I've read in a long time. I don't say that to be a jerk, I'm just genuinely in a state of confusion after reading it. Our lives are very different
That was the most unrelatable thing I've read in a long time.
I don't say that to be a jerk, I'm just genuinely in a state of confusion after reading it. Our lives are very different
I really cannot decipher what this is supposed to be saying. That real experiences are more fun and memorable than that time you gambled and almost won but didn't? It's not like this person was...
I really cannot decipher what this is supposed to be saying. That real experiences are more fun and memorable than that time you gambled and almost won but didn't? It's not like this person was ever actually making 1000/hr so he fails to provide actual commentary on giving it up to pursue friends and experiences.
I can relate to this... the lack of good food and good friends is a much larger lifestyle difference compared to the difference between earning $80k vs $800k per year. No amount of money can...
It’s been about 4 years since those days and they don’t stick out nearly as well as my bike trips in the Sierra Nevadas or the meals with friends tucked into a cabin. Those experiences still come from a place of wealth and privilege, but the $80 per hour kind.
I can relate to this... the lack of good food and good friends is a much larger lifestyle difference compared to the difference between earning $80k vs $800k per year.
No amount of money can fulfill one's own ego and yet the road to wisdom is through excess: one cannot know what is enough until one has had more than enough.
Perhaps another way to phrase this would be to ask how much money would you need so that you aren't worried about the future (excluding any income or other investments you may have)? In order to...
Perhaps another way to phrase this would be to ask how much money would you need so that you aren't worried about the future (excluding any income or other investments you may have)?
In order to make this question even simpler and more relatable, instead of money let's use time: the amount of money that you would need to live one day:
one day of buffer
one week of buffer
one month of buffer
two months of buffer
six months of buffer
one year of buffer
ten years of buffer
thirty years of buffer
It's likely that you'll only know this answer through experience (at the very least having enough to pass the first threshold of "enough" and feel relief) and you might change your answer after being unemployed for more than a reasonable amount of time. Both of these things require passing thresholds.
No, that didn't particularly help. Lots of thresholds exist and are crossed. I just don't agree with your assumption/conclusion that "the road to wisdom is through excess." $80k a year isn't my...
No, that didn't particularly help. Lots of thresholds exist and are crossed. I just don't agree with your assumption/conclusion that "the road to wisdom is through excess." $80k a year isn't my life either.
Maybe for some that's how they figure it out, but it's not a universal aphorism.
Initially when I wrote my comment, I wanted to type $8k vs $80k because personally, I don't see a big difference there either. (But I didn't write that because it's not very realistic for some...
$80k a year isn't my life either.
Initially when I wrote my comment, I wanted to type $8k vs $80k because personally, I don't see a big difference there either. (But I didn't write that because it's not very realistic for some parts of the world like the Bay Area--$80k and $800k should be more universally indifferent--both should be in excess territory for any reasonable person who can learn to live within their means).
But I agree with you, there are many thresholds. There are many people on this planet that live on less than $2 household income per day. Their lives are not totally different from ours--but their neighborhoods, communities, and markets have options for them that allow them to exist at that level. In the US, the margins between excess and homelessness are often razor thin. I understand that perhaps it is not a universal aphorism but excess is not a universal thing either... it's all relative.
At this point I’d say my entire drive to try to earn more is out of attempt to build buffer. I have most of what I need already, except time. If I were to win the lottery the only thing that would...
At this point I’d say my entire drive to try to earn more is out of attempt to build buffer. I have most of what I need already, except time. If I were to win the lottery the only thing that would change (ignoring lottery win logistics like lawyers and moving) is that I would be spending all my time on hobbies, self development, maybe starting a family instead of on my job. The older I get the greater the desire to stop burning my life away just to exist becomes.
The real moral here is don't get greedy, and realize gains! I've been fortunate enough to understand that sometimes you get everything you want and still feel a hole. When I finally had enough...
The real moral here is don't get greedy, and realize gains!
I've been fortunate enough to understand that sometimes you get everything you want and still feel a hole. When I finally had enough money to not need to worry about it, it created space to miss the things I'd sacrificed to get to that point. Proximity to friends and family chief amongst them. I make a point to have trips to spend quiet time with them, but you can never really match that spontaneous alignment of lives that allows you to spend months in the wilderness (or wherever your happy place is) with friends and family, and focus on the little things in the day to day without interruption.
Sort of the irony of his position, and many like it, is that if you had the sense to do that, you probably would not have taken that position to begin with. Thus when you finally hit your...
The real moral here is don't get greedy, and realize gains!
Sort of the irony of his position, and many like it, is that if you had the sense to do that, you probably would not have taken that position to begin with. Thus when you finally hit your "jackpot" you don't realize it (because the idea it'll got to $1,000,000 is impossible from several directions), and then ride it out to 0.
It's true. 😃 Although some people do set some small money aside for those yolo plays, and occasionally cash out, but not usually doubling down and still picking out.
It's true. 😃 Although some people do set some small money aside for those yolo plays, and occasionally cash out, but not usually doubling down and still picking out.
I get what the author is saying, but his examples are really weird lol. He didn't really make $1000/hr, he didn't sell, that's like more than half of the process of making a trade. He actually...
I get what the author is saying, but his examples are really weird lol. He didn't really make $1000/hr, he didn't sell, that's like more than half of the process of making a trade. He actually made negative money.
But the idea that experiences trumps money is understandable. A more common tradeoff is that as SWE go through their careers, they eventually are faced with a choice to either be content with ~$250-300k range, or they need to dedicate a significantly higher amount of their life, and stress, to either be an EM or staff. And I think more and more people are not picking the latter.
I can now say I know what it feel like to make over $1,000 per hour. It’s good! But that old hedonic treadmill is a bitch. It’s been about 4 years since those days and they don’t stick out nearly as well as my bike trips in the Sierra Nevadas or the meals with friends tucked into a cabin.
I mean, it's a bit much to say that the latter isn't hedonistic lol. Sounds pretty fun to me.
That was the most unrelatable thing I've read in a long time.
I don't say that to be a jerk, I'm just genuinely in a state of confusion after reading it. Our lives are very different
if nothing else, this guy got on a plane in late 2020. i never would've even considered such a thing
I really cannot decipher what this is supposed to be saying. That real experiences are more fun and memorable than that time you gambled and almost won but didn't? It's not like this person was ever actually making 1000/hr so he fails to provide actual commentary on giving it up to pursue friends and experiences.
I can relate to this... the lack of good food and good friends is a much larger lifestyle difference compared to the difference between earning $80k vs $800k per year.
No amount of money can fulfill one's own ego and yet the road to wisdom is through excess: one cannot know what is enough until one has had more than enough.
I don't agree that excess is needed to know what "enough" is. It may be what some people need, but I don't think it's a universal aphorism.
Perhaps another way to phrase this would be to ask how much money would you need so that you aren't worried about the future (excluding any income or other investments you may have)?
In order to make this question even simpler and more relatable, instead of money let's use time: the amount of money that you would need to live one day:
It's likely that you'll only know this answer through experience (at the very least having enough to pass the first threshold of "enough" and feel relief) and you might change your answer after being unemployed for more than a reasonable amount of time. Both of these things require passing thresholds.
No, that didn't particularly help. Lots of thresholds exist and are crossed. I just don't agree with your assumption/conclusion that "the road to wisdom is through excess." $80k a year isn't my life either.
Maybe for some that's how they figure it out, but it's not a universal aphorism.
Initially when I wrote my comment, I wanted to type $8k vs $80k because personally, I don't see a big difference there either. (But I didn't write that because it's not very realistic for some parts of the world like the Bay Area--$80k and $800k should be more universally indifferent--both should be in excess territory for any reasonable person who can learn to live within their means).
But I agree with you, there are many thresholds. There are many people on this planet that live on less than $2 household income per day. Their lives are not totally different from ours--but their neighborhoods, communities, and markets have options for them that allow them to exist at that level. In the US, the margins between excess and homelessness are often razor thin. I understand that perhaps it is not a universal aphorism but excess is not a universal thing either... it's all relative.
At this point I’d say my entire drive to try to earn more is out of attempt to build buffer. I have most of what I need already, except time. If I were to win the lottery the only thing that would change (ignoring lottery win logistics like lawyers and moving) is that I would be spending all my time on hobbies, self development, maybe starting a family instead of on my job. The older I get the greater the desire to stop burning my life away just to exist becomes.
The real moral here is don't get greedy, and realize gains!
I've been fortunate enough to understand that sometimes you get everything you want and still feel a hole. When I finally had enough money to not need to worry about it, it created space to miss the things I'd sacrificed to get to that point. Proximity to friends and family chief amongst them. I make a point to have trips to spend quiet time with them, but you can never really match that spontaneous alignment of lives that allows you to spend months in the wilderness (or wherever your happy place is) with friends and family, and focus on the little things in the day to day without interruption.
Sort of the irony of his position, and many like it, is that if you had the sense to do that, you probably would not have taken that position to begin with. Thus when you finally hit your "jackpot" you don't realize it (because the idea it'll got to $1,000,000 is impossible from several directions), and then ride it out to 0.
It's true. 😃 Although some people do set some small money aside for those yolo plays, and occasionally cash out, but not usually doubling down and still picking out.
I can at least confirm that calaveras big trees state park is worth a visit.
I get what the author is saying, but his examples are really weird lol. He didn't really make $1000/hr, he didn't sell, that's like more than half of the process of making a trade. He actually made negative money.
But the idea that experiences trumps money is understandable. A more common tradeoff is that as SWE go through their careers, they eventually are faced with a choice to either be content with ~$250-300k range, or they need to dedicate a significantly higher amount of their life, and stress, to either be an EM or staff. And I think more and more people are not picking the latter.
I mean, it's a bit much to say that the latter isn't hedonistic lol. Sounds pretty fun to me.