Creton directed Shang-Chi, and was actually originally signed up to direct Avengers: Kang Dynasty back in 2022 before departing a year later, and obviously now that whole project/storyline is...
Creton directed Shang-Chi, and was actually originally signed up to direct Avengers: Kang Dynasty back in 2022 before departing a year later, and obviously now that whole project/storyline is scrapped.
I find a fourth Holland Spider-Man to be kind of pointless. The production also had a start date before a director was even signed on or a script completed.
The character completed its trilogy with appearances in three other MCU movies sprinkled in.
Theres apparently two sides to this where one side wants to keep the movie at the street level but the other side (Sony) wants to lean into the multiverse aspect of No Way Home ($$$).
Spider-Man is one of Marvel’s biggest heroes; I think it’s reasonable for them to continue to make the films with Holland as long as he’s willing and people want to see them. The trilogy...
Spider-Man is one of Marvel’s biggest heroes; I think it’s reasonable for them to continue to make the films with Holland as long as he’s willing and people want to see them. The trilogy thoroughly explored the life of a young, naive Peter Parker. I’d love to see him portrayed in the MCU as more mature (while of course keeping in mind Spider-Man is always at least a little goofy and immature). Even Garfield and Maguire’s portrayal’s don’t get past the first year of college if I recall correctly. And to see him interact more with other heroes, especially the Fantastic Four, has a lot of good narrative potential. He also has quite a sizable rogue’s gallery to pull from.
Ultimately though it will come down to: 1) is Holland willing, 2) will Sony play ball, and 3) will it be successful enough to merit continuing. I suspect those will be true for one more trilogy at the least.
Not to mention, the last film left Peter holey on his own. No Aunt May, no MJ, no Ned, no more Stark Tech. It's an interesting point to start something new.
Not to mention, the last film left Peter holey on his own. No Aunt May, no MJ, no Ned, no more Stark Tech. It's an interesting point to start something new.
Honestly, I really hate how the last movie did that. Sure, character deaths like Aunt May is one thing, but taking away Zendaya's version of MJ? The Stark tech/his role as Iron Man's heir? Even...
Honestly, I really hate how the last movie did that. Sure, character deaths like Aunt May is one thing, but taking away Zendaya's version of MJ? The Stark tech/his role as Iron Man's heir? Even freaking NED? That's... his whole character? Those elements and those characters in these movies are a large part of what makes this version of Spider-Man who he is.
I think / hope MJ and Ned will come back into his life. I think that the value of connection outweighing the risk will be the first movie’s “lesson”. As far as being Iron Man’s heir… many people...
I think / hope MJ and Ned will come back into his life. I think that the value of connection outweighing the risk will be the first movie’s “lesson”. As far as being Iron Man’s heir… many people didn’t like that: I was mixed about it but frankly I’m glad it was done and now he’s eschewed that in favor of being his own character with his own tech.
I know there were fan complaints about this version of Spider-Man being Iron Man Jr. But I thought that was unique and is what gave MCU Spidey his MCU identity. That’s what made the character’s...
I know there were fan complaints about this version of Spider-Man being Iron Man Jr. But I thought that was unique and is what gave MCU Spidey his MCU identity. That’s what made the character’s inclusion into this world work.
I’m probably biased because I think Spider-Man: Homecoming is the best written Spider-Man film (which shouldn’t be surprising since it’s from the Game Night/D&D guys although Homecoming came out before either of those).
I hated how it took away the agency of MJ and Ned. The whole time the idea was that he was stronger with them, better with them, that he needed them and that they were on board. We promise MJ to...
I hated how it took away the agency of MJ and Ned. The whole time the idea was that he was stronger with them, better with them, that he needed them and that they were on board.
We promise MJ to tell her.
And then we don't honor her choices at all so we can have the nostalgic lonely Spider-Man? Nah.
Didn't the ending of the last movie leave the character on a pretty big emotional cliffhanger? I can't imagine anyone wants that to be the end for the character, it certainly doesn't fit as an...
Didn't the ending of the last movie leave the character on a pretty big emotional cliffhanger? I can't imagine anyone wants that to be the end for the character, it certainly doesn't fit as an ending for that character's arc.
It works as an ending, IMO, if Marvel and Sony couldn't work it out, but it is a bit of a downer, and that's par for the course for a Spider-Man movie. If they want to put effort into working...
It works as an ending, IMO, if Marvel and Sony couldn't work it out, but it is a bit of a downer, and that's par for the course for a Spider-Man movie. If they want to put effort into working through a lot of the emotional baggage from that one, I think you can get some good stuff out of it, but hopefully the movie is not completely consumed with "lol, multiverse!" to be incomprehensible.
A very hit or miss director for me. I thought Shang-Chi was one of the worst MCU movies.. on the other hand, he directed Short Term 12 which is my favourite movie. I will always watch Marvel...
A very hit or miss director for me.
I thought Shang-Chi was one of the worst MCU movies.. on the other hand, he directed Short Term 12 which is my favourite movie. I will always watch Marvel movies but I no longer want to pay the price of admission as I just don't feel it's worth it anymore. I guess we'll see whether he's up to the task once Wonder Man comes out. My expectations for any and all D+ shows is practically nonexistent though.
In June 2023, Holland told The Hollywood Reporter that he and the producers had recently undergone a series of meetings on a potential fourth installment. “The first few meetings were about, ‘Why would we do this again?’ And I think we found the reason why,” Holland said.
I hope to be proven wrong but I'm really skeptical.
Tom Holland is 28 years old now - he already looked too old for the role by the second Spider-Man movie.. are they still going to try to pass him off as a teenager? Maybe as a college student? Maybe I'm alone in this, because while he did look younger than his age in the past, I feel he is way too chiseled to pass as a ~20 year old. He looks his age and that won't work for Spider-Man because the character is supposed to very unassuming and sort of go under the radar when he is Peter Parker.
Creton directed Shang-Chi, and was actually originally signed up to direct Avengers: Kang Dynasty back in 2022 before departing a year later, and obviously now that whole project/storyline is scrapped.
I find a fourth Holland Spider-Man to be kind of pointless. The production also had a start date before a director was even signed on or a script completed.
The character completed its trilogy with appearances in three other MCU movies sprinkled in.
Theres apparently two sides to this where one side wants to keep the movie at the street level but the other side (Sony) wants to lean into the multiverse aspect of No Way Home ($$$).
Spider-Man is one of Marvel’s biggest heroes; I think it’s reasonable for them to continue to make the films with Holland as long as he’s willing and people want to see them. The trilogy thoroughly explored the life of a young, naive Peter Parker. I’d love to see him portrayed in the MCU as more mature (while of course keeping in mind Spider-Man is always at least a little goofy and immature). Even Garfield and Maguire’s portrayal’s don’t get past the first year of college if I recall correctly. And to see him interact more with other heroes, especially the Fantastic Four, has a lot of good narrative potential. He also has quite a sizable rogue’s gallery to pull from.
Ultimately though it will come down to: 1) is Holland willing, 2) will Sony play ball, and 3) will it be successful enough to merit continuing. I suspect those will be true for one more trilogy at the least.
Not to mention, the last film left Peter holey on his own. No Aunt May, no MJ, no Ned, no more Stark Tech. It's an interesting point to start something new.
Honestly, I really hate how the last movie did that. Sure, character deaths like Aunt May is one thing, but taking away Zendaya's version of MJ? The Stark tech/his role as Iron Man's heir? Even freaking NED? That's... his whole character? Those elements and those characters in these movies are a large part of what makes this version of Spider-Man who he is.
I think / hope MJ and Ned will come back into his life. I think that the value of connection outweighing the risk will be the first movie’s “lesson”. As far as being Iron Man’s heir… many people didn’t like that: I was mixed about it but frankly I’m glad it was done and now he’s eschewed that in favor of being his own character with his own tech.
I know there were fan complaints about this version of Spider-Man being Iron Man Jr. But I thought that was unique and is what gave MCU Spidey his MCU identity. That’s what made the character’s inclusion into this world work.
I’m probably biased because I think Spider-Man: Homecoming is the best written Spider-Man film (which shouldn’t be surprising since it’s from the Game Night/D&D guys although Homecoming came out before either of those).
I hated how it took away the agency of MJ and Ned. The whole time the idea was that he was stronger with them, better with them, that he needed them and that they were on board.
We promise MJ to tell her.
And then we don't honor her choices at all so we can have the nostalgic lonely Spider-Man? Nah.
Didn't the ending of the last movie leave the character on a pretty big emotional cliffhanger? I can't imagine anyone wants that to be the end for the character, it certainly doesn't fit as an ending for that character's arc.
It works as an ending, IMO, if Marvel and Sony couldn't work it out, but it is a bit of a downer, and that's par for the course for a Spider-Man movie. If they want to put effort into working through a lot of the emotional baggage from that one, I think you can get some good stuff out of it, but hopefully the movie is not completely consumed with "lol, multiverse!" to be incomprehensible.
A very hit or miss director for me.
I thought Shang-Chi was one of the worst MCU movies.. on the other hand, he directed Short Term 12 which is my favourite movie. I will always watch Marvel movies but I no longer want to pay the price of admission as I just don't feel it's worth it anymore. I guess we'll see whether he's up to the task once Wonder Man comes out. My expectations for any and all D+ shows is practically nonexistent though.
I hope to be proven wrong but I'm really skeptical.
Tom Holland is 28 years old now - he already looked too old for the role by the second Spider-Man movie.. are they still going to try to pass him off as a teenager? Maybe as a college student? Maybe I'm alone in this, because while he did look younger than his age in the past, I feel he is way too chiseled to pass as a ~20 year old. He looks his age and that won't work for Spider-Man because the character is supposed to very unassuming and sort of go under the radar when he is Peter Parker.