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Wagner Group now just 400 km away from Moscow

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  1. [15]
    adam_kadmon
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    According to the official Wagner telegram channel and voice message sent by Prigozhin, they just turned back. Yes, you heard correct. No, nobody has any idea why. Probably the most unexpected...

    According to the official Wagner telegram channel and voice message sent by Prigozhin, they just turned back. Yes, you heard correct. No, nobody has any idea why. Probably the most unexpected thing what happened today.

    18 votes
    1. [10]
      vektor
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      Color me extremely doubtful. If he does, he might've just signed his own death warrant, no matter what kind of deal he made with who. He made extremely powerful enemies today, and it's either them...

      Color me extremely doubtful. If he does, he might've just signed his own death warrant, no matter what kind of deal he made with who. He made extremely powerful enemies today, and it's either them or him.

      There's also this:

      Apparently they're right outside moscow now - 65km - proceed with caution, there's people who think this is MoD troops.

      Lukashenko supposedly brokered some sort of deal

      But Prigozhin denies this

      6 votes
      1. cfabbro
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        This is honestly why I think "breaking news" culture is a bit broken on the internet. It doesn't usually do any of us any good to be following the play by play from random sources all over the...

        This is honestly why I think "breaking news" culture is a bit broken on the internet. It doesn't usually do any of us any good to be following the play by play from random sources all over the internet, and lots of misinformation gets spread this way. Better to just wait and see how things shake out, and wait until info actually gets confirmed by more reliable mainstream sources who actually do some basic fact checking before publishing, IMO.

        14 votes
      2. [5]
        smiles134
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        Prigozhin now says a deal was reached to avoid spilling Russian blood.
        5 votes
        1. Bipolar
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          I wonder what deal would they took?, there no way Putin and his allies are going to let this slide, can't be a dictator if the subjects think you are weak.

          I wonder what deal would they took?, there no way Putin and his allies are going to let this slide, can't be a dictator if the subjects think you are weak.

          2 votes
        2. [3]
          zelderan
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          This is certainly not what I was expecting. How can you turn about face not 24 hours after declaring a coup? Prigozhin is a dead man

          This is certainly not what I was expecting. How can you turn about face not 24 hours after declaring a coup? Prigozhin is a dead man

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            smiles134
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            Yeah, it really doesn't make any sense at all

            Yeah, it really doesn't make any sense at all

            1 vote
            1. Maxi
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              Even prominent Russia researchers say on Twitter that they have no idea what is going on

              Even prominent Russia researchers say on Twitter that they have no idea what is going on

              1 vote
      3. [2]
        Cycloneblaze
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        I cannot believe that Lukashenko of all people was the successful peace-broker.

        I cannot believe that Lukashenko of all people was the successful peace-broker.

        2 votes
        1. Maxi
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          Doesn’t this kinda mean he is leading the country?

          Doesn’t this kinda mean he is leading the country?

      4. adam_kadmon
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        I can 100% tell you he didn't deny it in any of the official channels he has. I've also heard his message myself. Unless he's lying it really seems to be over. Perhaps so kind of deal was brokered...

        I can 100% tell you he didn't deny it in any of the official channels he has. I've also heard his message myself. Unless he's lying it really seems to be over. Perhaps so kind of deal was brokered in the end, but we'll probably won't know what it was exactly.

    2. [2]
      stu2b50
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      Maybe some kind of peace deal made with Putin was reached?

      Maybe some kind of peace deal made with Putin was reached?

      1 vote
      1. caninehere
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        Really doubt it. They seemed to be rolling through pretty much uncontested. I think many in the Russian military are happy to see someone stand up to the leadership that has been feeding them into...

        Really doubt it. They seemed to be rolling through pretty much uncontested. I think many in the Russian military are happy to see someone stand up to the leadership that has been feeding them into the meat grinder.

        Putin has seemingly fled Moscow (though the Kremlin is denying it).

        2 votes
  2. unkz
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    Events leading up to this: Wagner group faced a crisis of leadership when their soldiers were ordered to sign contracts directly placing them under the authority of the regular Russian army....

    Events leading up to this:

    Wagner group faced a crisis of leadership when their soldiers were ordered to sign contracts directly placing them under the authority of the regular Russian army. Prigozhin obviously saw this as an existential crisis and refused.

    Wagner mercenary boss brushes off Russian order to sign contracts

    This led to Prigozhin leading this armed rebellion and openly fighting with Russian military.

    PMC Wagner mercenaries shoot down three helicopters of the Russian Air Force overnight

    And now they're just outside the gates, while Putin has fled the city.

    And now Belarus has apparently brokered an agreement -- Wagner is retreating.

    realtime updates from aljazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/6/24/russia-ukraine-live-news-russia-accuses-wagner-chief-of-mutiny

    9 votes
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    1. Jeakams
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      Мне это нравится. спасибо товарищ.

      Мне это нравится. спасибо товарищ.

      1 vote