If he did it, and if he gets the same punishment as anyone else would get, then okay by me. If he didn't do it, hopefully this clears his name and this doesn't keep coming up.
If he did it, and if he gets the same punishment as anyone else would get, then okay by me.
If he didn't do it, hopefully this clears his name and this doesn't keep coming up.
This is the entire problem with laws like this. "Well of course we don't want alcoholics with guns!", but the enforcement is essentially impossible but it gives law enforcement a super easy excuse...
It is very common for gun owners to be "an unlawful user of, and addicted to, any stimulant, narcotic drug, and any other controlled substance"
This is the entire problem with laws like this. "Well of course we don't want alcoholics with guns!", but the enforcement is essentially impossible but it gives law enforcement a super easy excuse to screw your life over. Even if your a lawful user and not addicted, they can easily say "well we felt they were" and now you're spending months getting destroyed by this nonsense.
Didn't a judge in Delaware or somethwhere already rule the "gun violation(s)" that is the subject of these indictment(s) were unconstitutional? I remember because I was pondering how ironic it was...
Didn't a judge in Delaware or somethwhere already rule the "gun violation(s)" that is the subject of these indictment(s) were unconstitutional? I remember because I was pondering how ironic it was that his plea deal got rejected before that judgement surfaced and if that's the case, then he was lucky to have that deal rejected so now the whole issue is more or less moot, and he gets off scot-free
When has it ever mattered if a democrat does or doesn't give the right ammunition? People need to stop thinking defensively about fascism. I don't care about Hunter, but Biden should pardon his...
When has it ever mattered if a democrat does or doesn't give the right ammunition? People need to stop thinking defensively about fascism.
I don't care about Hunter, but Biden should pardon his son if it comes down to it, because we all know why these theatrics are actually happening and it has absolutely nothing with enforcing the law.
Honestly, I wonder if Hunter Biden getting charged with random stuff that Repubs like can get them to turn against their own rhetoric and values out of their obsession with charging a broken...
Honestly, I wonder if Hunter Biden getting charged with random stuff that Repubs like can get them to turn against their own rhetoric and values out of their obsession with charging a broken addict son of the most hated politician on the other side of the aisle to the right.
Yes I don't see the political ideology that advocates for a small government that stays out of the market's way and simultaneously regulates who can receive health care on theological grounds is...
Yes I don't see the political ideology that advocates for a small government that stays out of the market's way and simultaneously regulates who can receive health care on theological grounds is going to have an issue with another bit of cognitive dissonance
I don’t think there’s any “if” here, it’s pretty clear he did it. But my understanding is that this charge was just picked for the plea deal. Basically, you have to find a charge that matches the...
I don’t think there’s any “if” here, it’s pretty clear he did it. But my understanding is that this charge was just picked for the plea deal. Basically, you have to find a charge that matches the compromise punishment. Charging him for this in its own makes little sense. I’ve heard some commentators say this is buying time, and the charges will be updated. Otherwise this is a slam dunk appeal on constitutionality.
There are plenty of people who buy guns in Colorado that smoke pot and lie on that form too. Thus is clearly targeted because he's the presidents son. Regardless, I don't think I'll be voting for...
There are plenty of people who buy guns in Colorado that smoke pot and lie on that form too. Thus is clearly targeted because he's the presidents son.
Regardless, I don't think I'll be voting for Hunter Biden in 2024.
Well, they are the sort of people who got people who didn’t think Oliver North was a hero (because of what he did in Vietnam) to discover that North had some integrity after all.
Well, they are the sort of people who got people who didn’t think Oliver North was a hero (because of what he did in Vietnam) to discover that North had some integrity after all.
https://www.businessinsider.com/appeals-court-hunter-biden-gun-law-unconstitutional-2023-9 A conservative appeals court just ruled against the federal gun law used to charge Hunter Biden
Dareh Gregorian, Daniel Barnes, Tom Winter and Gary Grumbach Two of the counts carry a maximum prison sentence of 10 years, while the third has a maximum of five years. Each count also carries a...
Dareh Gregorian, Daniel Barnes, Tom Winter and Gary Grumbach
Biden was indicted Thursday in Delaware federal court on three counts tied to the possession of a gun while using narcotics.
Two of the counts carry a maximum prison sentence of 10 years, while the third has a maximum of five years. Each count also carries a maximum fine of $250,000.
Two counts are tied to Biden allegedly completing a form indicating he was not using illegal drugs when he purchased a Colt Cobra revolver in October 2018. The third count alleges that he possessed a firearm while using a narcotic. The indictment says Biden certified on a federally mandated form "that he was not an unlawful user of, and addicted to, any stimulant, narcotic drug, and any other controlled substance, when in fact, as he knew, that statement was false and fictitious.”
The case is being overseen by special counsel David Weiss, who also headed the investigation. Weiss is a Trump appointee who was kept on as U.S. attorney for Delaware because of the sensitive and unique nature of the investigation into a president's son by the Justice Department, a part of the executive branch headed by the president.
An attorney for Hunter Biden, Abbe Lowell, said in a statement that the new charges are politically influenced and unwarranted.
President defended his son in an interview with MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle on May 5. “First of all, my son has done nothing wrong,” the president said. “I trust him. I have faith in him.”
Hunter Biden told CBS News in a 2021 interview that he was “cooperating completely” with the federal probe. “And I’m absolutely certain, 100 percent certain,” he said, “that at the end of the investigation, I will be cleared of any wrongdoing.”
If he did it, and if he gets the same punishment as anyone else would get, then okay by me.
If he didn't do it, hopefully this clears his name and this doesn't keep coming up.
This is the entire problem with laws like this. "Well of course we don't want alcoholics with guns!", but the enforcement is essentially impossible but it gives law enforcement a super easy excuse to screw your life over. Even if your a lawful user and not addicted, they can easily say "well we felt they were" and now you're spending months getting destroyed by this nonsense.
Didn't a judge in Delaware or somethwhere already rule the "gun violation(s)" that is the subject of these indictment(s) were unconstitutional? I remember because I was pondering how ironic it was that his plea deal got rejected before that judgement surfaced and if that's the case, then he was lucky to have that deal rejected so now the whole issue is more or less moot, and he gets off scot-free
There's no way he doesn't either get his sentence commuted or full-blown pardoned by "Big Guy" before he runs for Pres again :/
Disagree, I think the big guy would go out of his way to stay out of it; he doesn’t need to give anybody ammunition to attack him during the campaign.
When has it ever mattered if a democrat does or doesn't give the right ammunition? People need to stop thinking defensively about fascism.
I don't care about Hunter, but Biden should pardon his son if it comes down to it, because we all know why these theatrics are actually happening and it has absolutely nothing with enforcing the law.
Honestly, I wonder if Hunter Biden getting charged with random stuff that Repubs like can get them to turn against their own rhetoric and values out of their obsession with charging a broken addict son of the most hated politician on the other side of the aisle to the right.
Interesting thought experiment.
Not likely. "The only moral abortion is my abortion" and all that.
Yes I don't see the political ideology that advocates for a small government that stays out of the market's way and simultaneously regulates who can receive health care on theological grounds is going to have an issue with another bit of cognitive dissonance
I don’t think there’s any “if” here, it’s pretty clear he did it. But my understanding is that this charge was just picked for the plea deal. Basically, you have to find a charge that matches the compromise punishment. Charging him for this in its own makes little sense. I’ve heard some commentators say this is buying time, and the charges will be updated. Otherwise this is a slam dunk appeal on constitutionality.
There are plenty of people who buy guns in Colorado that smoke pot and lie on that form too. Thus is clearly targeted because he's the presidents son.
Regardless, I don't think I'll be voting for Hunter Biden in 2024.
That's the joke/point. We're concerned about what actual politicians do, not their sadly kinda screwed up kid.
Indeed.
What does the NRA have to say about it?
What ever Putin wants them to say.
Well, they are the sort of people who got people who didn’t think Oliver North was a hero (because of what he did in Vietnam) to discover that North had some integrity after all.
https://www.businessinsider.com/appeals-court-hunter-biden-gun-law-unconstitutional-2023-9
A conservative appeals court just ruled against the federal gun law used to charge Hunter Biden
Dareh Gregorian, Daniel Barnes, Tom Winter and Gary Grumbach
Two of the counts carry a maximum prison sentence of 10 years, while the third has a maximum of five years. Each count also carries a maximum fine of $250,000.