This is the Circuit Court that keeps having their rulings overturned by SCOTUS because even Clarence Thomas thinks they're ridiculous. We'll see what comes of this one.
A federal appeals court further narrowed the scope of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, ruling that members of separate minority groups cannot join together to claim that a political map has been drawn to dilute their voting power.
This is the Circuit Court that keeps having their rulings overturned by SCOTUS because even Clarence Thomas thinks they're ridiculous. We'll see what comes of this one.
Maybe I'm wrong and I'm certainly high, but gerrymandering wouldn't work is we just divided the whole country by a hexagons, basically all districts would be hexagon. The hexagonal sections can be...
Maybe I'm wrong and I'm certainly high, but gerrymandering wouldn't work is we just divided the whole country by a hexagons, basically all districts would be hexagon. The hexagonal sections can be combine or subdivided as long as the district is a mathematically correct six sided regular hexagon, no one would be able to gerrymander it by redrawing the map to weird shapes.
Simple we can make the states hexagon shape too! but really the idea is more that districts need to be a regular shapes that you can get area using a simple math formula rather something like...
Simple we can make the states hexagon shape too!
but really the idea is more that districts need to be a regular shapes that you can get area using a simple math formula rather something like this.
For ten years this was Ohio's 4th congressional district because that's how long it took for the courts to find it unconstitutional
Jokes on us. Ohio legislature just ignored the court’s ruling until the clock ran out and used the illegal maps anyways. Ohio has a citizen led anti-gerrymandering issue on the upcoming ballot....
Jokes on us. Ohio legislature just ignored the court’s ruling until the clock ran out and used the illegal maps anyways.
Ohio has a citizen led anti-gerrymandering issue on the upcoming ballot. Also surprise surprise this will be the second time an anti-gerrymandering bill like this has been voted on (first one passed and I expect this one will too)!
In addition to that, the governor has recently said that he will put something in front of the legislature to pass a system like Iowa has that puts map drawing in the legislature’s hands instead - since they are “beholden to the people”. Absolute joke since the GOP has a supermajority in the state that is mathematically impossible given voting data (meaning GOP holds more seats in state government than they should if all seats were given by proportion of vote for D or R).
Ohio legislators have a habit of ignoring court rulings. The school funding system has been found unconstitutional at least four times by the state supreme court.
Ohio legislators have a habit of ignoring court rulings. The school funding system has been found unconstitutional at least four times by the state supreme court.
Easy, each part of the hexagon that lies in a different state becomes its own congressional district! Is it fair? Hell nah. Will it result in a few very small congressional districts with a...
How would that account for hexagons that cross state borders?
Easy, each part of the hexagon that lies in a different state becomes its own congressional district! Is it fair? Hell nah. Will it result in a few very small congressional districts with a ridiculously high people-to-representative ratio? Yes. Is it evidence that the very concept of states in the United States is outdated and needs to be done away with? Also yes.
The issue with regularly sized districts is that population within a state isn't uniformly distributed. If all districts are geographically the same size, people who live in rural districts have...
The issue with regularly sized districts is that population within a state isn't uniformly distributed. If all districts are geographically the same size, people who live in rural districts have significantly more voting power, since there are less people in those districts.
I agree but they don't have to be the same size because hexagon tile to bigger or smaller hexagon. but really it's more that we need a template or math formula or something that regulates the...
I agree but they don't have to be the same size because hexagon tile to bigger or smaller hexagon.
but really it's more that we need a template or math formula or something that regulates the shapes politicians can use for their districts
But yeah My Hexagon USA is most likely a bad idea :)
I feel like having two hexagons of different sizes next to one another would create some triangle-shaped uncovered zones. That being said, I do like the idea of mapping out zones in triangles! We...
I feel like having two hexagons of different sizes next to one another would create some triangle-shaped uncovered zones.
That being said, I do like the idea of mapping out zones in triangles! We very much know how to do that efficiently now, and it would be interesting to find a fit that minimizes the difference in populations between triangles!
Now, there may be some weirdly shaped ones in that optimization, but I like it compared to some of the weirder shapes that we see today!
I kind of see what you're saying, but that would require that the hexagons inside the hexagon would have to have the same population as each other, and also every other hexagon in the state, which...
I agree but they don't have to be the same size because hexagon tile to bigger or smaller hexagon.
I kind of see what you're saying, but that would require that the hexagons inside the hexagon would have to have the same population as each other, and also every other hexagon in the state, which while maybe possible is probably more trouble than its worth. On a more practical level, hexagons (the bestagon) would struggle to deal with urban areas, where the diagonal lines would clash with cities that are square or rectangular grids.
All maps are gerrymandered. I don’t know what approach would produce the most “fair” results but a fun idea would be for computers every other year to redraw to create the most competitive...
All maps are gerrymandered. I don’t know what approach would produce the most “fair” results but a fun idea would be for computers every other year to redraw to create the most competitive districts it could so candidates had to campaign for every vote. The lack of competitive elections in America is a strong driver of effectively voter disenchantment.
This actually was essentially a case heard by SCOTUS back in 2015. Mathematicians came together and proposed a method of districting that led to fairer outcomes, and the court ruled against it and...
This actually was essentially a case heard by SCOTUS back in 2015. Mathematicians came together and proposed a method of districting that led to fairer outcomes, and the court ruled against it and basically said they weren’t interested in using math.
What a travesty. Without reviewing it and knowing how it works, if it indeed made individual votes have more equal weight, that shows just how incompetent/corrupt the courts are.
What a travesty. Without reviewing it and knowing how it works, if it indeed made individual votes have more equal weight, that shows just how incompetent/corrupt the courts are.
Haha, Hexagon USA makes me feel high too, thanks for sharing My favorite part is how we'll need to undertake colossal geoengineering projects to make the coastlines fit within the tiled hexagon...
Haha, Hexagon USA makes me feel high too, thanks for sharing 🫠
My favorite part is how we'll need to undertake colossal geoengineering projects to make the coastlines fit within the tiled hexagon lattice. Sorry, coastal ecosystems! Also, we'll need to either enter into land trade agreements or do some wars with Mexico and Canada to hexify those borders. And we should probably just grant Hawaii and the other island territories independence to spare the effort of re-hexing their current imperfect shapes.
Maybe to figure out where the hex lattice will fall, we start by giving Washington DC one hex, and then hex out from there?
Who decides what the size of the hexagons are and how they're offset (i.e. where the pattern starts)? But even if you solve that, the core problem of gerrymandering is that people want...
Who decides what the size of the hexagons are and how they're offset (i.e. where the pattern starts)?
But even if you solve that, the core problem of gerrymandering is that people want representation of their local area, which means you don't want the boundary e.g. splitting a city in half instead of capturing the whole city. In other words, you can't avoid the weird shapes because you need to represent cultural boundaries that already have weird shapes.
In the long term it needs to be mitigated via MMP, but that requires the capacity for political reform, which the US usually lacks.
This is the Circuit Court that keeps having their rulings overturned by SCOTUS because even Clarence Thomas thinks they're ridiculous. We'll see what comes of this one.
Maybe I'm wrong and I'm certainly high, but gerrymandering wouldn't work is we just divided the whole country by a hexagons, basically all districts would be hexagon. The hexagonal sections can be combine or subdivided as long as the district is a mathematically correct six sided regular hexagon, no one would be able to gerrymander it by redrawing the map to weird shapes.
How would that account for hexagons that cross state borders? Anti-gerrymandering policy is littered with literal edge cases and boundary conditions.
Simple we can make the states hexagon shape too!
but really the idea is more that districts need to be a regular shapes that you can get area using a simple math formula rather something like this.
For ten years this was Ohio's 4th congressional district because that's how long it took for the courts to find it unconstitutional
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio's_4th_congressional_district#/media/File:Ohio_US_Congressional_District_4_(since_2013).tif
Jokes on us. Ohio legislature just ignored the court’s ruling until the clock ran out and used the illegal maps anyways.
Ohio has a citizen led anti-gerrymandering issue on the upcoming ballot. Also surprise surprise this will be the second time an anti-gerrymandering bill like this has been voted on (first one passed and I expect this one will too)!
In addition to that, the governor has recently said that he will put something in front of the legislature to pass a system like Iowa has that puts map drawing in the legislature’s hands instead - since they are “beholden to the people”. Absolute joke since the GOP has a supermajority in the state that is mathematically impossible given voting data (meaning GOP holds more seats in state government than they should if all seats were given by proportion of vote for D or R).
Ohio legislators have a habit of ignoring court rulings. The school funding system has been found unconstitutional at least four times by the state supreme court.
Easy, each part of the hexagon that lies in a different state becomes its own congressional district! Is it fair? Hell nah. Will it result in a few very small congressional districts with a ridiculously high people-to-representative ratio? Yes. Is it evidence that the very concept of states in the United States is outdated and needs to be done away with? Also yes.
God save California
The issue with regularly sized districts is that population within a state isn't uniformly distributed. If all districts are geographically the same size, people who live in rural districts have significantly more voting power, since there are less people in those districts.
I agree but they don't have to be the same size because hexagon tile to bigger or smaller hexagon.
but really it's more that we need a template or math formula or something that regulates the shapes politicians can use for their districts
But yeah My Hexagon USA is most likely a bad idea :)
I feel like having two hexagons of different sizes next to one another would create some triangle-shaped uncovered zones.
That being said, I do like the idea of mapping out zones in triangles! We very much know how to do that efficiently now, and it would be interesting to find a fit that minimizes the difference in populations between triangles!
Now, there may be some weirdly shaped ones in that optimization, but I like it compared to some of the weirder shapes that we see today!
I kind of see what you're saying, but that would require that the hexagons inside the hexagon would have to have the same population as each other, and also every other hexagon in the state, which while maybe possible is probably more trouble than its worth. On a more practical level, hexagons (the bestagon) would struggle to deal with urban areas, where the diagonal lines would clash with cities that are square or rectangular grids.
Well shoot, now I have to go back and watch a whole bunch of wonderful math videos from over a decade ago.
(Thank you)
All maps are gerrymandered. I don’t know what approach would produce the most “fair” results but a fun idea would be for computers every other year to redraw to create the most competitive districts it could so candidates had to campaign for every vote. The lack of competitive elections in America is a strong driver of effectively voter disenchantment.
This actually was essentially a case heard by SCOTUS back in 2015. Mathematicians came together and proposed a method of districting that led to fairer outcomes, and the court ruled against it and basically said they weren’t interested in using math.
What a travesty. Without reviewing it and knowing how it works, if it indeed made individual votes have more equal weight, that shows just how incompetent/corrupt the courts are.
Do you happen to recall the case name?
It may have been Harris v. Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission, but I’m not certain.
Sorry for the low effort post, but, dymaxion voting!
Haha, Hexagon USA makes me feel high too, thanks for sharing 🫠
My favorite part is how we'll need to undertake colossal geoengineering projects to make the coastlines fit within the tiled hexagon lattice. Sorry, coastal ecosystems! Also, we'll need to either enter into land trade agreements or do some wars with Mexico and Canada to hexify those borders. And we should probably just grant Hawaii and the other island territories independence to spare the effort of re-hexing their current imperfect shapes.
Maybe to figure out where the hex lattice will fall, we start by giving Washington DC one hex, and then hex out from there?
😂
Who decides what the size of the hexagons are and how they're offset (i.e. where the pattern starts)?
But even if you solve that, the core problem of gerrymandering is that people want representation of their local area, which means you don't want the boundary e.g. splitting a city in half instead of capturing the whole city. In other words, you can't avoid the weird shapes because you need to represent cultural boundaries that already have weird shapes.
In the long term it needs to be mitigated via MMP, but that requires the capacity for political reform, which the US usually lacks.
Perhaps they're trying their hand at reverse psychology?