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Mass shooting at US Hindu temple prevented by jammed gun

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  1. [8]
    updawg
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    Just a few days ago, I posted about conservatives using genocidal language to talk about South Asians. I was not expecting to see people doing this already. Apparently he'd been planning it for...

    Just a few days ago, I posted about conservatives using genocidal language to talk about South Asians. I was not expecting to see people doing this already. Apparently he'd been planning it for two years and got caught because he was updating his Taco Bell coworker.

    At his Palatine condo, investigators said they found an AR-style rifle with no serial number, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a tactical vest, gas can, and items with Nazi symbolism.

    Paporakis penned an eight-page manifesto using derogatory and racially charged slurs and specifically targeted people of Indian descent at a Hindu house of worship, according to court documents in the case. He pledged he would die himself, but not before killing as many minorities as possible, prosecutors said.

    In pretrial detention documents obtained by the ABC7 I-Team, prosecutors said Paporakis described himself as a "sociopathic white supremacist Neo Nazi filled with hatred" who drove to a location, attempted to fire his gun at a man, but the gun jammed. He had been planning the attack for two years, according to court records.

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    1. balooga
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      Good on that coworker. Quietly keeping an eye on the situation, sounding the alarm when things escalated. An unsung hero. Of course that didn’t stop the shooter from showing up and attempting...

      Good on that coworker. Quietly keeping an eye on the situation, sounding the alarm when things escalated. An unsung hero.

      Of course that didn’t stop the shooter from showing up and attempting murder, I guess that jammed gun is a hero too. WTF is wrong with people? Really relieved he failed to harm anyone.

      26 votes
    2. [6]
      Hunterquill
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      “Paporakis” dude is an ethnic white, I feel like some of these groups gotta learn that know matter what other groups they target in this country they’ll never be “white white”

      “Paporakis” dude is an ethnic white, I feel like some of these groups gotta learn that know matter what other groups they target in this country they’ll never be “white white”

      7 votes
      1. [5]
        papasquat
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        Really? Greek people seem like the most "white white" you can get. I mean, racist white people are obsessed with the concept of "western civilization", and they're the ones who kinda started the...

        Really? Greek people seem like the most "white white" you can get.

        I mean, racist white people are obsessed with the concept of "western civilization", and they're the ones who kinda started the whole thing.

        5 votes
        1. [2]
          MimicSquid
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          American "White" keeps growing as a category to maintain an in-group large enough to maintain political relevance. It used to be that only white anglo-saxon protestants (WASP) were "white", and...

          American "White" keeps growing as a category to maintain an in-group large enough to maintain political relevance. It used to be that only white anglo-saxon protestants (WASP) were "white", and they'll keep expanding it to try and maintain relevance.

          18 votes
          1. jeroknite
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            Well, it'll stop expanding if they get rid of all the groups they use as scapegoats, then it'll start shrinking again (as history has shown)

            Well, it'll stop expanding if they get rid of all the groups they use as scapegoats, then it'll start shrinking again (as history has shown)

            6 votes
        2. CptBluebear
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          Turbo racists will just call them "basically Turks" and that's that. For this guy ancient Greece may have been the start, but for others Western civilization as a benchmark of whiteness starts at...

          Turbo racists will just call them "basically Turks" and that's that. For this guy ancient Greece may have been the start, but for others Western civilization as a benchmark of whiteness starts at the crusades and subsequent colonisation, not the ancient Greeks. Then again, don't listen to me, nazi rhetoric (or any other white ideology) is notoriously inconsistent and you can mostly make it up as you go. It always starts at your rung and goes down from there.
          Wasn't that long ago the Irish weren't considered white. From there the Italians, the this the thats. It's all nonsense anyway.

          16 votes
        3. Hunterquill
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          I mean in America it’s really about the WASPs. And also, they like to cosplay Greek but they don’t actually want Greek people

          I mean in America it’s really about the WASPs. And also, they like to cosplay Greek but they don’t actually want Greek people

          4 votes
  2. DefinitelyNotAFae
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    We stop one and then... Live Updates: 3 Children and 1 Adult Killed in Shooting at Oregon Elementary School We can't get a break from it. I should not have to have a protocol for looking up my...

    We stop one and then...

    Live Updates: 3 Children and 1 Adult Killed in Shooting at Oregon Elementary School

    We can't get a break from it. I should not have to have a protocol for looking up my students by zip code in case of mass shootings in their home town. Temples and shuls and churches should not have to fear being targeted. Children should not have to learn "run hide fight"

    I don't know what to do about it anymore.

    16 votes
  3. artvandelay
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    I've got friends that live in the area so this hits sorta close to me. Glad the gun jammed and glad the coworker reported them. Sad to see racism expand like this but not unexpected given the...

    I've got friends that live in the area so this hits sorta close to me. Glad the gun jammed and glad the coworker reported them. Sad to see racism expand like this but not unexpected given the current administration.

    8 votes
  4. DefinitelyNotAFae
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    It has since come out that Democratic Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi was inside the temple at the time of the attempt. With his family. This could have also been an assassination. This all could have...

    It has since come out that Democratic Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi was inside the temple at the time of the attempt. With his family. This could have also been an assassination.

    This all could have gone so so badly.

    8 votes
  5. [4]
    jeroknite
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    So this might sound like a weird question, but is this the first time in recent history that south east asians have been specifically targeted for an attack like this in america? Like I know...

    So this might sound like a weird question, but is this the first time in recent history that south east asians have been specifically targeted for an attack like this in america? Like I know there's been random violence, violence intended to be aimed at "muslim terrorists" (as the right thinks everyone with brown skin is), and just the general racism. But mass shootings are much more targeted at specific communities.

    So is this a sign of shifting/expanding focus by the right, or...?

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    1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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      Anti-Indian/South Asian sentiment has absolutely been on the rise on the right. Most recently regarding a photo of college students at a football game, only because many of the people in the...

      Anti-Indian/South Asian sentiment has absolutely been on the rise on the right. Most recently regarding a photo of college students at a football game, only because many of the people in the picture were brown skinned and thus "not assimilated" inherently in those right wing views.

      Anti-Indian racism has been surging in right-wing media

      But while that was mainstream, I've been seeing concerns about it from Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi folks in particular in the past few years. I've just noticed a subtle increase in those sorts of random comments left on social media or in comment sections of news articles. The targeting of H1B visas also has brought with it anti-Indian sentiment (or perhaps the Anti-Indian sentiment brought the visa targeting).

      Vance has been criticized for his wife and for race mixing by Nick Fuentes and other right wing white nationalist darlings.

      But there was a shooting on a Hindu temple last year iirc and some vandalism in California targeted at Indians. But Sikhs were also being targeted as far back as 2001-2 for violence for simply being brown and wearing a (very distinctive from Muslim) turban. And a lot of the hate gets bled into a general "brown people bad" racism.

      9 votes
    2. [2]
      stu2b50
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      It’s South Asians, not Southeast Asians. For that matter, attacks against Muslims also includes South Asians. Pakistan and Bangladesh are some of the largest Muslim countries by population (far...

      It’s South Asians, not Southeast Asians.

      For that matter, attacks against Muslims also includes South Asians. Pakistan and Bangladesh are some of the largest Muslim countries by population (far larger than the usual Gulf States people think of). India, too, has a large Muslim minority after partition, as much as the current ruling party wished it didn’t.

      1. jeroknite
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        I wasn't referring to actual Muslims, I was referring to how white racists perceive ethnic groups

        I wasn't referring to actual Muslims, I was referring to how white racists perceive ethnic groups