So, we're all going to remember they don't want a meritocracy and in fact are just being super racist when they complain about DEI and the like and we're not going to try to sanewash or steelman...
So, we're all going to remember they don't want a meritocracy and in fact are just being super racist when they complain about DEI and the like and we're not going to try to sanewash or steelman their arguments anymore, right?
I had skimmed some things on the Bo French controversy, but hadn't realized the group he was being racist against in his comment on the UT football picture was people from India. Interesting and...
I had skimmed some things on the Bo French controversy, but hadn't realized the group he was being racist against in his comment on the UT football picture was people from India. Interesting and sad that the focus on African-Americans and Hispanic immigrants (especially Hispanics in occupations that don't require a college degree) has broadened to include Indians, especially those with darker skin.
To [French's] dismay, many of the exultant people in cowboy hats, burnt orange T-shirts and other spirit gear appeared to be of South Asian heritage...
Keeperman argued that the very fact that people like French objected to the picture of the football crowd showed that Indian Americans were not part of the American mainstream.
“Successful assimilation is precisely that you wouldn’t notice it,” Keeperman told Rufo. “The mere fact of us being able to notice — that no, this is not an assimilated group, this is just a bunch of Indians at the game — is itself sort of definitionally the case that they’re not yet assimilated.”
At another point, he called Indians “visibly conspicuous, in the way that darker-skinned people are.”
I miss the days when Victorian-style xenophobic racism was too obviously lunatic fringe to even deserve a mention from outlets like CNN. Platforming this drivel, even in opposition to it, lends it...
I miss the days when Victorian-style xenophobic racism was too obviously lunatic fringe to even deserve a mention from outlets like CNN. Platforming this drivel, even in opposition to it, lends it credence as if it’s a legitimate minority point of view, rather than the backwards, hateful detritus it is.
We shouldn’t even be giving it the time of day. Shut these people out.
Damn these immigrants and their… *adjusts glasses* commitment to excellence?
In the podcast, he returned to that point, even as he disputed some of Keeperman’s other anti-immigrant positions. “You’re not supposed to study for the spelling bee,” Rufo said, nodding to Indian Americans excelling in spelling competitions. “It’s just a fun thing you do once a year … That’s the American culture. The Indian culture is different.”
Damn these immigrants and their… *adjusts glasses* commitment to excellence?
It gives the impression "damn these immigrants for putting in effort and making me look bad for not putting in any effort." These guys really just say what ever non-sense comes to mind and think...
It gives the impression "damn these immigrants for putting in effort and making me look bad for not putting in any effort."
These guys really just say what ever non-sense comes to mind and think it's brilliant. I knew plenty of high achieving white kids who absolutely studied for the spelling bee (or who were made to study for the spelling bee by their parents). But I guess actually taking a second to think takes effort, and that again seems to go back to the root of the issue.
I do think it highlights cultural differences. The way I see Asian immigrants and their children think about education, careers, and success is different from how most Americans from families 3+...
I do think it highlights cultural differences. The way I see Asian immigrants and their children think about education, careers, and success is different from how most Americans from families 3+ generations into living here think about those things. A close friend of mine was born in China (although he mostly grew up in Idaho). He has second-hand trauma that has been acquired from how his parents lived through a very rough era of Chinese poverty. My perspective is very different. My family first arrived in North America in 1609 with an indentured servant and there has generally been a pretty good upward trajectory from there.
That said, "You're not supposed to study for the spelling bee" is a particularly stupid example for them to have made. My impression is spelling bees exist purely as a way for students to show off how hard they're willing to study.
Still there's a difference in attitude and I personally prefer the more American way. I celebrate learning through doing, success through charisma and relationships, and a respect for out of the box thinking and intuition. I have learned many important things through formal education and repetitious study. But I see the things I've learned on the job or through passionate hobby work as the primary cause for whatever successes I deserve credit for. For me the entire concept of studying for and attending an event like a spelling bee is unappealing. I'm more than happy to have that category of competition dominated by people whose culture aligns with that. You'll find me spending time on subversive art projects and weird technological explorations instead.
As an Indian American myself, recent politics have been quite an interesting experience to say the least. While I haven't directly experienced the racism, it's not super far from me either. It's...
As an Indian American myself, recent politics have been quite an interesting experience to say the least. While I haven't directly experienced the racism, it's not super far from me either. It's clear that when these people talk about assimilation, they just want white people, nothing else matters.
Feels like pregaming a push to oust JD Vance for an (even more) openly racist nominee in 2028. The fact that the same hatred is harming Vivek Ramaswamy's campaign is "good" in that it suggests the...
Feels like pregaming a push to oust JD Vance for an (even more) openly racist nominee in 2028.
The fact that the same hatred is harming Vivek Ramaswamy's campaign is "good" in that it suggests the Groyper types can't help themselves even when it harms their electoral prospects, but at this point it's pretty clear that even the most toxic candidates are electable under the right conditions.
If Barron Trump was older, I’m sure he’d be Donald’s first choice as a successor. The fact that he doesn’t have a clear successor means there will be a lot of infighting in 2028, especially if...
If Barron Trump was older, I’m sure he’d be Donald’s first choice as a successor. The fact that he doesn’t have a clear successor means there will be a lot of infighting in 2028, especially if Trump’s “legacy” is more contested.
So, we're all going to remember they don't want a meritocracy and in fact are just being super racist when they complain about DEI and the like and we're not going to try to sanewash or steelman their arguments anymore, right?
Because they're just. Super. Racist.
And they look at themselves in the mirror every night feeling justified. . . with what?
It boggles my mind. How do these people live with themselves.
Their world view by which they judge themselves conforms with the things they believe and say.
And the most uncomfortable thing is that they're probably perfectly fine with it.
Very unsettling
I had skimmed some things on the Bo French controversy, but hadn't realized the group he was being racist against in his comment on the UT football picture was people from India. Interesting and sad that the focus on African-Americans and Hispanic immigrants (especially Hispanics in occupations that don't require a college degree) has broadened to include Indians, especially those with darker skin.
Yikes.
I miss the days when Victorian-style xenophobic racism was too obviously lunatic fringe to even deserve a mention from outlets like CNN. Platforming this drivel, even in opposition to it, lends it credence as if it’s a legitimate minority point of view, rather than the backwards, hateful detritus it is.
We shouldn’t even be giving it the time of day. Shut these people out.
Damn these immigrants and their… *adjusts glasses* commitment to excellence?
It gives the impression "damn these immigrants for putting in effort and making me look bad for not putting in any effort."
These guys really just say what ever non-sense comes to mind and think it's brilliant. I knew plenty of high achieving white kids who absolutely studied for the spelling bee (or who were made to study for the spelling bee by their parents). But I guess actually taking a second to think takes effort, and that again seems to go back to the root of the issue.
I do think it highlights cultural differences. The way I see Asian immigrants and their children think about education, careers, and success is different from how most Americans from families 3+ generations into living here think about those things. A close friend of mine was born in China (although he mostly grew up in Idaho). He has second-hand trauma that has been acquired from how his parents lived through a very rough era of Chinese poverty. My perspective is very different. My family first arrived in North America in 1609 with an indentured servant and there has generally been a pretty good upward trajectory from there.
That said, "You're not supposed to study for the spelling bee" is a particularly stupid example for them to have made. My impression is spelling bees exist purely as a way for students to show off how hard they're willing to study.
Still there's a difference in attitude and I personally prefer the more American way. I celebrate learning through doing, success through charisma and relationships, and a respect for out of the box thinking and intuition. I have learned many important things through formal education and repetitious study. But I see the things I've learned on the job or through passionate hobby work as the primary cause for whatever successes I deserve credit for. For me the entire concept of studying for and attending an event like a spelling bee is unappealing. I'm more than happy to have that category of competition dominated by people whose culture aligns with that. You'll find me spending time on subversive art projects and weird technological explorations instead.
As an Indian American myself, recent politics have been quite an interesting experience to say the least. While I haven't directly experienced the racism, it's not super far from me either. It's clear that when these people talk about assimilation, they just want white people, nothing else matters.
I'm not looking forward to getting purged, but its nice to be noticed.
Nice to also be represented I guess, we have a wide spread from Kamala Harris to Vivek Ramaswamy and Usha Vance.
Feels like pregaming a push to oust JD Vance for an (even more) openly racist nominee in 2028.
The fact that the same hatred is harming Vivek Ramaswamy's campaign is "good" in that it suggests the Groyper types can't help themselves even when it harms their electoral prospects, but at this point it's pretty clear that even the most toxic candidates are electable under the right conditions.
If Barron Trump was older, I’m sure he’d be Donald’s first choice as a successor. The fact that he doesn’t have a clear successor means there will be a lot of infighting in 2028, especially if Trump’s “legacy” is more contested.
I'll be here for it. Blow your crypto fortune on Fox News ads aimed at a shrinking demographic.
Well, that's my dream anyway.