Slightly off topic, but I have noticed a huge uptick in apathy/defeatism posts everywhere. Whether the posts are from actual people or from bots trying to sway public opinion, I think following...
Slightly off topic, but I have noticed a huge uptick in apathy/defeatism posts everywhere.
Whether the posts are from actual people or from bots trying to sway public opinion, I think following the advice would be detrimental to America.
I agree wholeheartedly. It just baffled me how this post claims to be a fervent follower of these shows and then just does a 180 and say haha suckers, we won, what are you going to do now.
I agree wholeheartedly. It just baffled me how this post claims to be a fervent follower of these shows and then just does a 180 and say haha suckers, we won, what are you going to do now.
While I understand your view and can sympathize with it until a certain point I don't think that will benefit humanity as a whole. I feel we have an obligation to be a diverse species where all...
While I understand your view and can sympathize with it until a certain point I don't think that will benefit humanity as a whole. I feel we have an obligation to be a diverse species where all voices are heard, where everyone can have a home, feel safe, find joy and happiness, all in a sustainable manner. If democracy were to disappear I feel we are left to the devices of those with the loudest voices or the strongest armies. I cannot believe they have the best intentions for everyone in mind.
Basically the outcome of this election. We might have already killed it. Only time will tell, now. As to your other point about defeatism, I think a lot of people are still in...
Democracy dies when participants check out.
Basically the outcome of this election. We might have already killed it. Only time will tell, now.
As to your other point about defeatism, I think a lot of people are still in shock/mourning/distress based on this outcome. People need varying amounts of time to process and move forward. I think attitudes will change over time. For every defeatist post you see, there's possibly 1 or more people that have been spurred into action as the result as well.
Last night @smoontjes told me about a reddit post they had read about what the point is in comedy shows if they don't bring the societal change they preach. They asked my take on this and after...
Last night @smoontjes told me about a reddit post they had read about what the point is in comedy shows if they don't bring the societal change they preach. They asked my take on this and after reading the post and seeing how it blew up something didn't sit right with me.
As a disclaimer I don't want to raise pitchforks, far from it. This is purely meant as an analysis of what was posted. This is in no way meant as defamatory.
I’ve been watching John Oliver, Daily Show and some nightly talk shows for years and decades, but after this election I just can’t bring myself to do it anymore, for a few reasons.
So far so good, one can change what they like and decide not to watch something anymore.
Part of the show is telling us about whatever scandals and schemes politicians are involved in, and now I think “who cares, nothing’s gonna happen to them and there is nothing they could ever say or do that would make their followers abandon them.” so it’s pointless to watch because it’s just gonna be some mad/sad added to my day.
This is where it becomes a little iffy to me. It feels like they blame their audience for being unable to move on and just accept whatever may come. They question why they would want that in their lives. The latter part makes sense, don't watch something if it doesn't bring you something positive.
Another part of the show is telling us about whatever new policies they enact that will be bad for us, and now I think “uh, yeah, no shit, we know, that’s why we didn’t vote for them and told people not to vote for them.”, so it’s pointless to watch because it’s just gonna be some mad/sad added to my day.
Essentially a repeat from the section before it.
And the biggest part of the show is that all of the comedy is based around “we’re so smart, they’re so dumb, we’re so normal, they’re so weird, we’re good and they’re bad.” and now I think “They just won the election by both electoral and popular vote and improved in almost every demographic since 2020, which means all of your little jokes meant nothing and in the end they absolutely fucking owned you and got the last laugh.”
They really try to drive their point home and this is where it derails for me completely. Now they're adding to the polarization and blaming it on the comedy shows and essentially showing their true colors. It appears they claim victory from their point of view (and reveal who they voted for essentially.) And the entire post just feels like questioning the entire point of having these comedy shows in the first place. That these shows essentially only exist to appease the other voters and that it serves no purpose now that "they" have lost.
I don't know if I like anything in this post beyond the first sentence. All I know is that my wife and I have done the same thing. We would watch the previous night's late night TV in the morning...
I don't know if I like anything in this post beyond the first sentence. All I know is that my wife and I have done the same thing. We would watch the previous night's late night TV in the morning with coffee before I go to work and now we just don't want to. I suppose this is the downside to late night being so much more focused on politics than they used to be.
Slightly off topic, but I have noticed a huge uptick in apathy/defeatism posts everywhere.
Whether the posts are from actual people or from bots trying to sway public opinion, I think following the advice would be detrimental to America.
The incoming administration wants your apathy.
Democracy dies when participants check out.
I agree wholeheartedly. It just baffled me how this post claims to be a fervent follower of these shows and then just does a 180 and say haha suckers, we won, what are you going to do now.
Then let it.
While I understand your view and can sympathize with it until a certain point I don't think that will benefit humanity as a whole. I feel we have an obligation to be a diverse species where all voices are heard, where everyone can have a home, feel safe, find joy and happiness, all in a sustainable manner. If democracy were to disappear I feel we are left to the devices of those with the loudest voices or the strongest armies. I cannot believe they have the best intentions for everyone in mind.
Basically the outcome of this election. We might have already killed it. Only time will tell, now.
As to your other point about defeatism, I think a lot of people are still in shock/mourning/distress based on this outcome. People need varying amounts of time to process and move forward. I think attitudes will change over time. For every defeatist post you see, there's possibly 1 or more people that have been spurred into action as the result as well.
Last night @smoontjes told me about a reddit post they had read about what the point is in comedy shows if they don't bring the societal change they preach. They asked my take on this and after reading the post and seeing how it blew up something didn't sit right with me.
As a disclaimer I don't want to raise pitchforks, far from it. This is purely meant as an analysis of what was posted. This is in no way meant as defamatory.
So far so good, one can change what they like and decide not to watch something anymore.
This is where it becomes a little iffy to me. It feels like they blame their audience for being unable to move on and just accept whatever may come. They question why they would want that in their lives. The latter part makes sense, don't watch something if it doesn't bring you something positive.
Essentially a repeat from the section before it.
They really try to drive their point home and this is where it derails for me completely. Now they're adding to the polarization and blaming it on the comedy shows and essentially showing their true colors. It appears they claim victory from their point of view (and reveal who they voted for essentially.) And the entire post just feels like questioning the entire point of having these comedy shows in the first place. That these shows essentially only exist to appease the other voters and that it serves no purpose now that "they" have lost.
I don't know if I like anything in this post beyond the first sentence. All I know is that my wife and I have done the same thing. We would watch the previous night's late night TV in the morning with coffee before I go to work and now we just don't want to. I suppose this is the downside to late night being so much more focused on politics than they used to be.