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Warren rising: Massachusetts progressive announces $19 million fundraising haul

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  1. [15]
    Neverland
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    I voted for Sanders as long as I could in 2016, but I love Elizabeth Warren the person, and candidate in 2020. Her proposed policies are nearly ideal IMO. Regardless of party, whom are you...

    I voted for Sanders as long as I could in 2016, but I love Elizabeth Warren the person, and candidate in 2020. Her proposed policies are nearly ideal IMO.

    Regardless of party, whom are you supporting in this next election at this point?

    9 votes
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        Neverland
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        Thank you for the direct challenge. I just contributed myself. I am not in the USA this year, but I am a citizen, and this is my first real action for the next election. I must admit that I got a...

        Thank you for the direct challenge. I just contributed myself. I am not in the USA this year, but I am a citizen, and this is my first real action for the next election. I must admit that I got a bit misty-eyed reading your comment given the fact that you cannot vote, but you still understand the importance. Thank you.

        6 votes
      2. gpl
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        I set up a small monthly donation after the first debate, when I was solidly convinced of her candidacy. It was super easy, and I'm only essentially out the price of one lunch from the workplace...

        I set up a small monthly donation after the first debate, when I was solidly convinced of her candidacy. It was super easy, and I'm only essentially out the price of one lunch from the workplace cafeteria. I too highly encourage people with the means to donate to your candidate of choice.

        2 votes
      3. [3]
        InherentlyGloomy
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        I appreciate the fact that you'd donate despite not being an American citizen. I am a citizen and I only started contributing to campaigns in 2015. That said, I'm not sure it's wise to donate a...

        I appreciate the fact that you'd donate despite not being an American citizen. I am a citizen and I only started contributing to campaigns in 2015.

        That said, I'm not sure it's wise to donate a lot of money now, during the primaries. There are a lot of good candidates and I'm afraid if they spend all of their money and energy now trying to beat each other out, there's no way they'll be able to stand up to the financial behemoth that is the Republican party. I would much rather wait until we have an established ticket before giving money.

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        1. [2]
          alyaza
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          people say this but honestly, the issue will probably never be fundraising at the top of the ticket. just biden, buttigieg, sanders, warren, and harris combined raised a total of 95 million...

          I'm afraid if they spend all of their money and energy now trying to beat each other out, there's no way they'll be able to stand up to the financial behemoth that is the Republican party.

          people say this but honestly, the issue will probably never be fundraising at the top of the ticket. just biden, buttigieg, sanders, warren, and harris combined raised a total of 95 million dollars against trump's 105 million this quarter, and that's with trump having tons of big donors to blow through and half of those democrats not relying on big donor money at all. it's exceedingly likely that all the democrats when summed up will outraise donald by five, ten, or maybe fifteen million this quarter.

          (also, given campaign contribution limits, it sorta doesn't matter that much as a small donor if you give now? because you can still give way more later.)

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          1. InherentlyGloomy
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            My though is that people who don't have much to give would be hesitant to donate multiple times in a single cycle. As someone who grew up in a relatively poor community there was a widespread...

            My though is that people who don't have much to give would be hesitant to donate multiple times in a single cycle. As someone who grew up in a relatively poor community there was a widespread mindset of "I've done all I can!" even when that wasn't true.

            Also I just looked up contribution limits, and apparently primaries and general elections are counted separately, which I did not know.

            2 votes
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      1. NaraVara
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        I like Sanders for the firebrandy bomb-throwing, but when it comes to hiring someone to do a job, Warren is the one. Sanders can keep throwing bombs from the Senate, so I don't know how much a...

        I like Sanders for the firebrandy bomb-throwing, but when it comes to hiring someone to do a job, Warren is the one. Sanders can keep throwing bombs from the Senate, so I don't know how much a Sanders Presidency really matters to me as long as he keeps showing up on peoples' televisions (for the right reasons).

        8 votes
      2. [2]
        smores
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        Me too. I very much want to support social democracy, and support the notion that capitalism is fundamentally incompatible with egalitarianism, but I honestly just think that Elizabeth Warren...

        Me too. I very much want to support social democracy, and support the notion that capitalism is fundamentally incompatible with egalitarianism, but I honestly just think that Elizabeth Warren would make a better president than Bernie Sanders. I think that no matter what, in a lot of ways, Bernie already won; the more progressive Democrats are now campaigning almost entirely on his ideologies from 2016. I would also be pretty happy to elect a wonky, measured, and passionate leader like Warren. Plus, ideologies about the nature of capitalism aside, I agree with almost all of Warren's actual policy plans.

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        1. Neverland
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          I just want to add this link to the definition of Social Democracy. To my own surprise, IMO it is the actual path to "Make America Great Again." Meaning that during the baby-boomers' time, prior...

          I just want to add this link to the definition of Social Democracy. To my own surprise, IMO it is the actual path to "Make America Great Again." Meaning that during the baby-boomers' time, prior to Reagan, this was the norm.

          Another parallel term is: Social Market Economy

          edit: the only reason that I added this comment is so that we can use common terms which I feel have been very twisted in the modern US political lexicon.

          4 votes
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        gtwillwin
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        Same, I support both and will most likely just vote for whichever one has more momentum going into my state's primary (Georgia). I just hope that whichever one falls behind after the early states...

        Same, I support both and will most likely just vote for whichever one has more momentum going into my state's primary (Georgia). I just hope that whichever one falls behind after the early states drops out and endorses the other so as to not split the progressive/SocDem vote too much.

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        1. teaearlgraycold
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          I'll do the same. I know Sanders/Warren can do more in the Senate than as a VP, but what a combination that would be.

          I'll do the same. I know Sanders/Warren can do more in the Senate than as a VP, but what a combination that would be.

          3 votes
    3. BuckeyeSundae
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      I'm a bit wistful that Warren didn't run in 2016, tbh, but I'll happily take her now. Trouble for me is that I'm flooded with a bunch of pretty good candidates, Warren included. I think highly of...

      I'm a bit wistful that Warren didn't run in 2016, tbh, but I'll happily take her now. Trouble for me is that I'm flooded with a bunch of pretty good candidates, Warren included. I think highly of Klobuchar, Gillibrand, Booker, Delaney, Castro, Buttigieg, Biden and Harris in about that order. I'm happy with the unique voice that Gabbard, Yang, Hickenlooper and Bullock each respectively bring into the primary. The rest I wouldn't miss if they dropped out tomorrow.

      3 votes
    4. [2]
      Icarus
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      Sanders is first and foremost for me. Elizabeth Warren doesn't seem as dovish as Sanders for me, however I would be very happy to vote for her in the election against Trump. She's very smart and...

      Sanders is first and foremost for me. Elizabeth Warren doesn't seem as dovish as Sanders for me, however I would be very happy to vote for her in the election against Trump. She's very smart and articulate and if anything, I want her upgraded from her Senate seat to something with more leadership and policy control, whether it be President, Treasury, or Senate Majority Leader.

      Beyond those two, I don't see any of the other Democratic candidates willing to take as hard of a stance on income inequality and election reform that I think is needed.

      Kamala Harris may be good as a President after reforms are made but she doesn't strike me a reformer herself. Maybe at this point I would want to see her as Attorney General and if she is willing to enact a progressive stance in that position, I would 100% vote for her as President in a future election.

      Joe Biden will be a step back from Obama, and a friend to the insurance and finance lobbyists. He comes off to me similarly to how Clinton came off to me back in 2016, in that by virtue of being close to the office of the President he is most capable and that he wants to be a part of history by being president, rather than running because he has a platform of ideas that he wants enacted for the good of all citizens.

      Buttigieg comes off nice, although his whole "Free college for the poor, but not for the rich" comes off as counterproductive to me. I personally believe education after high school is a right, no matter what your economic standing is, and if you choose to go to public college, you will be expected to pay the same amount as any other equal citizen. I also don't have enough information on his ability to navigate the federal political climate to give him my vote in the primary.

      Inslee would be nice but because his big thing is climate change, he may be suited to enact policy in a Cabinet position rather than the key decision maker for all things outside of climate change.

      3 votes
      1. spctrvl
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        Moreover, there's few enough rich people that it's not really a burden for their college education to be funded publicly. Felt the same way in the 2016 primary when Clinton said that she didn't...

        Buttigieg comes off nice, although his whole "Free college for the poor, but not for the rich" comes off as counterproductive to me. I personally believe education after high school is a right, no matter what your economic standing is, and if you choose to go to public college, you will be expected to pay the same amount as any other equal citizen. I also don't have enough information on his ability to navigate the federal political climate to give him my vote in the primary.

        Moreover, there's few enough rich people that it's not really a burden for their college education to be funded publicly. Felt the same way in the 2016 primary when Clinton said that she didn't want to pay for Trump's kids to go to college. By all means, if they meet the entrance requirements, let them attend at the same cost as anyone else! We don't charge the rich to use public schools or public roads. Restricting tuition free college to the poor instead of making it a true public service creates unnecessary tension, making cuts and dismantlement more popular, and for very little financial benefit.

        5 votes
  2. NaraVara
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    An even more important angle: 80% of the fundraising (about 307,000 people) is coming from first time donors! Now I'm not sure if "first time donor" here means first time ever, or first time...

    An even more important angle:

    80% of the fundraising (about 307,000 people) is coming from first time donors!

    Now I'm not sure if "first time donor" here means first time ever, or first time during this election season, or the first time donating to Elizabeth Warren/through ActBlue. I'm guessing the middle one, but it would be great if it was the first one.

    6 votes