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So what do political parties spend all that fundraised money on?

Fundraising has always been a part of campaigning but ever since I made a small donation several years ago, Ive been getting constant appeals to donate more (in Canada). I always wonder though, what exactly that money gets spent on? Are they just buying ads on tv and online? Or where does it all get directed?

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  1. Jordan117
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    Advertising, field offices, staff on the ground, pollsters, lawyers, merchandise, flyers, mailers, web hosting, security... It's basically a regional or nationwide advertising campaign with...

    Advertising, field offices, staff on the ground, pollsters, lawyers, merchandise, flyers, mailers, web hosting, security...

    It's basically a regional or nationwide advertising campaign with concert tour logistics and a network of offices and staff to make it all go.

    36 votes
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    bkimmel
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    AMA. This used to be my job. The cool part is you can look it all up yourself on the FEC website. OpenSecrets if you're lazy. The short answer is "advertising". They have to pay a "slightly lower...

    AMA. This used to be my job. The cool part is you can look it all up yourself on the FEC website. OpenSecrets if you're lazy.

    The short answer is "advertising". They have to pay a "slightly lower than market rate" in every media market by law.

    After that, it's consultants and staff.

    28 votes
    1. [7]
      bkimmel
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      Since no one asked, here's some random fun facts I learned that don't see normally bubbling up into common knowledge: TV / Radio stations are in a very weird position with respect to political...
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      Since no one asked, here's some random fun facts I learned that don't see normally bubbling up into common knowledge:

      1. TV / Radio stations are in a very weird position with respect to political advertising: One on hand, they can't refuse to air a political ad and have to offer a "slightly lower than market value" rate to political ads... but on the other hand, they themselves are liable for the content of the ad (and can refuse or can be forced to take down the ad on that basis). For example, if the ad says "Mike Jones kicked his dog" that claim generally has to be backed up with some kind of source material or the station is liable for damages. For that reason, pretty much all of these ads get submitted with heavily annotated (line-by-line) transcripts with research backing up each claim made in the ad.
      2. CPP or "Cost Per Point" is the most important thing used to calculate media spend (on radio/tv and there are analogues to it for digital ads). It basically means "the cost to get an ad seen by 1% of the target audience in a given media market". This gets really interesting in some congressional races, where the district does not line up neatly with one media market. For example, you might have 20% of the district population living in an urban media market with a CPP of $415 and the rest in a sprawling exurban/rural media market with a much lower CPP of like $90 or something.
      3. Snail Mail - this is still a huge part of fundraising, that doesn't get talked about as much and the way it works on the receiving/processing end is a pretty massive industry unto itself: They have these big "caging" operations where all these people open the mail and process the old-school checks (and sometimes cash) that people send in. This company called Merkle did a lot of it, so when you see that on FEC reports that's usually what that expenditure is for.
      4. "Reserving" media spend. If you're familiar with the way "reserved" instances and stuff works on like AWS, this is kinda similar: If you know months ahead of time that you're going to be spending on TV ads (like lots of campaigns) you can put some money down up front and "reserve" that ad time for a lower price than you would pay later. For this reason, if you want to really make a difference with a donation to a campaign give them money early (in their first few weeks). ... which leads to the next point:
      5. The timing of campaigns "getting" money is the bane of every finance director. It tends to come in at an exponential rate 2-3 weeks before election day. At that point, it's basically useless to the campaign for anything but paying off debts.
      6. U.S. Senators and Members of Congress are not allowed to do anything related to their campaigns in their official government offices. They have to walk down the street to the party offices or nearby offices that their fundraising consultants have to call donors and do stuff like that.
      7. There used to be a laser on the roof of the Democratic National Headquarters (it was a point-to-point networking device to a nearby building)
      39 votes
      1. [4]
        nukeman
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        More info on the laser?

        More info on the laser?

        9 votes
        1. [2]
          cfabbro
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          Not OP, but at a guess, I would assume it was a similar product to this: https://www.cailabs.com/aerospace-defense/laser-communications/line-of-sight-optical-terminals/ Cool tech!

          Not OP, but at a guess, I would assume it was a similar product to this:
          https://www.cailabs.com/aerospace-defense/laser-communications/line-of-sight-optical-terminals/

          TILBA®-LOS is designed for 10 Gbps point-to-point atmospheric links over distances exceeding 10 km. This solution enables the deployment of robust, highly secure wireless communication networks due to their invulnerability to interception and resistance to jamming. In addition, since optics are free from spectrum licensing constraints, the communications enabled by TILBA®-LOS exceed the main technical limitations of standard radio frequency signals currently used for free-space communication. Cailabs’ TILBA®-IBC technology is integrated into TILBA®-LOS. This technology uses incoherent combining based on Multi-Plane Light Conversion (MPLC), enabling atmospheric turbulence management at transmission. It increases the reliability of point-to-point optical links through the atmosphere over distances of up to 10 km, making the beam more robust to turbulence and enabling more resilient strategic links. TILBA®-LOS optical terminals are compatible with conventional telecommunications infrastructures, making them easy to deploy. They can be custom-designed for use in harsh conditions, such as mobile, maritime and airborne environments.

          Cool tech!

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          1. bkimmel
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            Yeah, it was years ago so I don't think it was quite 10Gbps and it wasn't that company but that was the basic idea.

            Yeah, it was years ago so I don't think it was quite 10Gbps and it wasn't that company but that was the basic idea.

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        2. bkimmel
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          It was to link a party committee office to an annex in a different building (there was a corresponding laser on on the other building). They were on top of rickety ladders and had to be adjusted...

          It was to link a party committee office to an annex in a different building (there was a corresponding laser on on the other building). They were on top of rickety ladders and had to be adjusted occasionally by hand.

          10 votes
      2. [2]
        gowestyoungman
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        Fascinating info. Thanks for all that. The 'reserved' thing makes sense now why the party I donated to is constantly begging for more donations when Im thinking "hey our election isn't for another...

        Fascinating info. Thanks for all that.

        The 'reserved' thing makes sense now why the party I donated to is constantly begging for more donations when Im thinking "hey our election isn't for another year and a half (in Canada), why are you begging so hard this far ahead?'

        Any idea if Canada has the equivalent of the Open Secrets site? Here donors and campaigns are considerably more low key (our main governing party won't even publish how many members they have which is extremely odd) but Im sure we have a few big donors. Id be curious to know who are the hands inside the puppets.

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        1. cfabbro
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          Canada has way more strict political donation and election spending limit laws than the US, with much smaller donation limits, and far more restrictions on party spending, especially during...

          Im sure we have a few big donors

          Canada has way more strict political donation and election spending limit laws than the US, with much smaller donation limits, and far more restrictions on party spending, especially during election periods.

          And, so far, only Ontario and Alberta allow political action committees (PACs), but they have a $150k third-party advertising spending limit during election periods. And unlike in the US we have no "super PACs" with unlimited contributions.

          Now, that's not to say there aren't other ways for the uber rich to gain influence with the parties... but in general our election laws, and our public subsidies for political parties, has kept our political parties from relying on mega-donors like in the US.

          p.s. Here are some related Wikipedia articles you may be interested in reading, with quotes relevant to the above:
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_political_financing_in_Canada

          As of 2021, the maximum yearly contribution limit is $1650 to a given federal political party, $1650 to a given party's riding associations, $1650 to a given party's leadership candidates, and $1650 for each independent candidate. The maximum total contribution is set at $3300. The total tax credit for all contributions is capped at $650, representing a subsidy of 42%.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Elections_Act#Political_action_committees

          The Canada Elections Act allows PACs to "spend up to $150,000 on third-party advertising during an election" but "spending outside the election period is [/was] unlimited." up until the enactment of the Elections Modernization Act in 2018, even after which spending was nonetheless unlimited outside of the defined pre-election periods.

          6 votes
  3. [2]
    Bipolar
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    Here in the US we have fec.gov, they keep track of that. You can search and see for your self but it's stuff like 800 bucks for lapel stickers/buttons and random shit like that.

    Here in the US we have fec.gov, they keep track of that. You can search and see for your self but it's stuff like 800 bucks for lapel stickers/buttons and random shit like that.

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  4. stu2b50
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    There's honestly an infinite amount of things you can spend the money on. Just to go on a quick brainstorming exercise, First, you need office space for your main campaign HQ. You also need...

    There's honestly an infinite amount of things you can spend the money on. Just to go on a quick brainstorming exercise,

    First, you need office space for your main campaign HQ. You also need offices in any important battleground states like Ohio. That's rent, utilities, people to maintain it.

    You need staff. You need staff to do internal polling, you need staff to make your advertisements, you need staff to plan your day, you need speechwriters to write your speeches, you need strategists to determine what you do, you need accountants to manage your money, you need web developers to make your campaign websites, you need designers to create your graphics.

    You need security for your campaign rallies. You need staff who will handle the booking of the venues for your rallies.

    You need transportation - often private jets. While it sounds extravagant, at one point Obama was making doing 3 campaign rallies, at 3 different states a DAY.

    You need to pay for television advertisements, youtube advertisements, billboards. You need staff to manage volunteers going door-to-door.

    You can come up with an infinite number of things to spend money on.

    10 votes