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Apple introduces iOS 12, macOS Mojave

36 comments

  1. [8]
    Baldemoto
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    These keynotes are getting more and more disappointing tbh. The audience seems to clap for everything, even things which are "meh" at most.

    These keynotes are getting more and more disappointing tbh. The audience seems to clap for everything, even things which are "meh" at most.

    18 votes
    1. [4]
      cwl
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      The presenters also seem to say every single thing is mind blowing, when it isn't. "I'm so excited to show you this mundane, incrementally updated feature like it's a new thing!"

      The presenters also seem to say every single thing is mind blowing, when it isn't.

      "I'm so excited to show you this mundane, incrementally updated feature like it's a new thing!"

      11 votes
      1. [2]
        Bear
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        "Reality Distortion Field is at 60% and falling."

        "Reality Distortion Field is at 60% and falling."

        4 votes
        1. gksu
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          "This year we put a 12 on the box."

          "This year we put a 12 on the box."

          3 votes
      2. Ganymede
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        I don't take issue with Apple's incremental improvements. The end product is useful and enjoyable and they continue to refine and improve that useful, enjoyable experience. I don't need massive...

        I don't take issue with Apple's incremental improvements. The end product is useful and enjoyable and they continue to refine and improve that useful, enjoyable experience. I don't need massive revamps or rewrites every version--just keep making things better, one step at a time. Apple excels at that.

    2. [3]
      Crusader
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      I mean there have been some fun flops at Keynotes before, but on the balance I concur.

      I mean there have been some fun flops at Keynotes before, but on the balance I concur.

      3 votes
      1. nothis
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        Oh wow, so even the Apple audience has a limit, lol.

        Oh wow, so even the Apple audience has a limit, lol.

        2 votes
      2. Parliament
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        I’m dying at this. It’s ingrained into the plastic! They really stepped up their game by the iPhone keynote.

        I’m dying at this.

        It’s ingrained into the plastic!

        They really stepped up their game by the iPhone keynote.

  2. [9]
    ourari
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    I've found the iPhone to be a nice compromise between usability and privacy/security. It takes some effort to configure it well, and you need a few apps to stop the tracking embedded in other...

    I've found the iPhone to be a nice compromise between usability and privacy/security. It takes some effort to configure it well, and you need a few apps to stop the tracking embedded in other apps, but in the end it works well. I'll never be an Apple fanboy, but I'm definitely no fan of using an OS that has Google's tentacles all over it.

    I like how they're trying to be a little more responsible by tackling the intentional addictiveness of apps/phones with IOS 12, although I don't know if it will be effective, or if it's intended more as a way to buy some goodwill / good PR.

    8 votes
    1. [5]
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      1. [3]
        tilde
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        Add me as the third! I prefer iOS mainly for privacy reasons, the ability to have a properly open phone is very exciting to me

        Add me as the third!

        I prefer iOS mainly for privacy reasons, the ability to have a properly open phone is very exciting to me

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          ourari
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          Dat username. Nice one!

          Dat username. Nice one!

          3 votes
          1. tilde
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            Ha, my reddit username is -Tilde but they don't let you start with a dash here, so I improvised

            Ha, my reddit username is -Tilde but they don't let you start with a dash here, so I improvised

            2 votes
      2. ourari
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        That makes two of us!

        I'm definitely hoping for the success of the Librem 5.

        That makes two of us!

        2 votes
    2. [2]
      cheers
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      What apps are you using? It's just Adguard Pro for me, at the moment, along with turning off location services and the like.

      you need a few apps to stop the tracking embedded in other apps

      What apps are you using? It's just Adguard Pro for me, at the moment, along with turning off location services and the like.

      2 votes
      1. ourari
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        I use Adguard Pro as well and watch the DNS log like a hawk, because the block lists aren't exhaustive. Before that I tried Better by Ind.ie and Purify. They're all still on. I also enabled...

        I use Adguard Pro as well and watch the DNS log like a hawk, because the block lists aren't exhaustive. Before that I tried Better by Ind.ie and Purify. They're all still on. I also enabled Firefox Focus to be used as a content blocker by Safari. I use Firefox Focus more than Safari, though.

        Adguard Pro and Safari's features together should be enough, though.

        2 votes
    3. [2]
      roadrunner
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      Would you share the names of these?

      you need a few apps to stop the tracking embedded in other apps

      Would you share the names of these?

      2 votes
      1. starchturrets
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        Adguard Pro. Not exactly a firewall, but you can block entire domains.

        Adguard Pro. Not exactly a firewall, but you can block entire domains.

        2 votes
  3. [3]
    ContemplativePanda
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    I just switched off an iphone back in November. Until they fix notifications, add an app drawer, and allow for more customizability such as changing default apps I honestly can't see myself going...

    I just switched off an iphone back in November. Until they fix notifications, add an app drawer, and allow for more customizability such as changing default apps I honestly can't see myself going back. Every iPhone screen I have seen is a cluttered mess because you have to keep adding homscreens or folders to accomodate apps.

    7 votes
    1. [2]
      bee
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      Group Notifications are available in iOS 12. Source

      Group Notifications are available in iOS 12. Source

      1 vote
      1. ContemplativePanda
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        I saw that, took them long enough. But that doesn't solve the other issues for me. It just fixes something that should've been done long ago imo, lol.

        I saw that, took them long enough. But that doesn't solve the other issues for me. It just fixes something that should've been done long ago imo, lol.

        3 votes
  4. vid
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    I’m so fucking happy they finally are grouping iOS notifications. It’s long overdue. The shortcuts app is also really cool and reminds me of activator (the jailbreak tweak).

    I’m so fucking happy they finally are grouping iOS notifications. It’s long overdue. The shortcuts app is also really cool and reminds me of activator (the jailbreak tweak).

    4 votes
  5. [2]
    Pibbman
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    It is also nice that they are continuing to support devices that are currently being supported under iOS 11. This means that my wife's iPhone 6 and my iPhone 6S will continue to be supported for a...

    It is also nice that they are continuing to support devices that are currently being supported under iOS 11. This means that my wife's iPhone 6 and my iPhone 6S will continue to be supported for a while. It just gives us more time to save up money for the next version (since we only buy unlocked iPhones).

    4 votes
  6. [5]
    ourari
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    Apple Just Made Safari the Good Privacy Browser | Wired
    4 votes
    1. [5]
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      1. [4]
        panic
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        Does Firefox have privacy features like the ones Safari just introduced?

        Does Firefox have privacy features like the ones Safari just introduced?

        2 votes
        1. [4]
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          1. [2]
            TheyThemDawn
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            That’s the point. For users that don’t do anything (yes, they exist, there are many of them), this is a great advance for their privacy.

            That’s the point. For users that don’t do anything (yes, they exist, there are many of them), this is a great advance for their privacy.

            7 votes
            1. [2]
              Comment deleted by author
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              1. jackson
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                I don't like some of the moves Mozilla's made with FF recently. Generally, it also runs a bit clunkier than Safari for me (although it's cross-platform). I like Safari since it's lightweight and I...

                I don't like some of the moves Mozilla's made with FF recently. Generally, it also runs a bit clunkier than Safari for me (although it's cross-platform). I like Safari since it's lightweight and I can use it on anyone's computer and it's just fine (+/- ads).

                Though I totally agree, a truly 'private browser' would be made by a nonprofit. That being said, Apple has no interest in tracking or ad revenue- what would their profiles on you be used for? Deciding what color iPhone you want next?

                2 votes
  7. [2]
    dude2k5
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    They took a lot from Google Photos, Google Assistant, DND mode on android. However the watch OS is great, I wish android had a watch equivalent

    They took a lot from Google Photos, Google Assistant, DND mode on android. However the watch OS is great, I wish android had a watch equivalent

    2 votes
    1. gksu
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      According to some rumors, they're coming. Qualcomm hasn't made a new watch chip for almost 3 years, and Android Wear has stagnated because of it. But they revamped it to be WearOS and we're likely...

      According to some rumors, they're coming. Qualcomm hasn't made a new watch chip for almost 3 years, and Android Wear has stagnated because of it. But they revamped it to be WearOS and we're likely to see new Qualcomm chips and Samsung selling theirs to other OEMs as well.

      2 votes
  8. [5]
    nothis
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    So Apple has just quietly accepted that macOS is basically done, right? I'm trying to make out a single feature that would justify a full new version number and I can't find any. Dark mode? So you...

    So Apple has just quietly accepted that macOS is basically done, right? I'm trying to make out a single feature that would justify a full new version number and I can't find any. Dark mode? So you can change the default colors for menu bars? Like in Windows 95? Three slightly updated apps? It honestly feels like nothing, and that's the second macOS version update that felt like that in a row.

    At least iOS 12 seems to focus on performance. That might not sound flashy, but I can respect that. I'll happily take an entire iOS version just focused on increasing performance, which is apparently what they're doing.

    2 votes
    1. [4]
      TheyThemDawn
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      Okay, but Windows doesn’t released an entire new OS every year. I don’t see why yearly updates that add some new features are so bad. Over time, or at once, there could be a radical change.

      Okay, but Windows doesn’t released an entire new OS every year. I don’t see why yearly updates that add some new features are so bad. Over time, or at once, there could be a radical change.

      2 votes
      1. [3]
        nothis
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        I guess, but what annoys me is that Apple is willing to use these unsubstantial OS updates as backwards-compatibility blocks. Like, some versions of apps that should run on 5 year old OS versions...

        I guess, but what annoys me is that Apple is willing to use these unsubstantial OS updates as backwards-compatibility blocks. Like, some versions of apps that should run on 5 year old OS versions are "exclusive" to the latest OS, for no technical reason. So you're forced to invest an afternoon in updating your entire OS (and maybe risk some other compatibility issues caused by that) to install a single app update.

        That being said, I still believe macOS is the best operating system out there. Linux distros still have to figure out UI, WIndows will always stay Windows... macOS is a fully POSIX compliant operating system with a sane, tidy interface. When I say they're "basically done", that's partially a compliment. I just think it's unnecessary to do a full, branded new "version" each year when there's little even justifying an update.

        4 votes
        1. jackson
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          Here's what I think the reasoning behind it is-- Every year or so, Apple releases a new version of Swift, their development language for iOS and macOS. These macOS updates are incremented as such...

          Here's what I think the reasoning behind it is--

          Every year or so, Apple releases a new version of Swift, their development language for iOS and macOS. These macOS updates are incremented as such for simplicity's sake - Swift 4 works best on macOS 10.13, but it may(?) work on 10.12 okay. You can build for older versions of Swift, sure, but you don't get the most recent API's because it's an evolving language.

          I like lots of the changes they've made to swift since its release, and I think it's worthwhile to change it up a bit. It's a lot easier to say you need to be on macOS 10.14+ than to say you need to be on Windows 10, anniversary update 2018, build 10258 or higher.

          Or it's money. It's probably money.

          1 vote
        2. TheyThemDawn
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          Fair, that does sound inconveniencing at the least.

          Fair, that does sound inconveniencing at the least.

  9. starchturrets
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    I’m glad that they’re supporting older devices, but I’m disappointed they didn’t allow us to set default apps.

    I’m glad that they’re supporting older devices, but I’m disappointed they didn’t allow us to set default apps.