For those of you who haven't heard of this project, I figured I'd share this. It's a new company (Enough Phone) trying to build a compact Android phone. They've posted a few videos and blog posts...
For those of you who haven't heard of this project, I figured I'd share this.
It's a new company (Enough Phone) trying to build a compact Android phone. They've posted a few videos and blog posts already but this post outlined the specs of the phone
Almost a shame I just picked up a pixel 10a. The biggest annoyance is how much bigger it is than my 5a. But this looks super promising to me. Definitely gonna follow it. Thanks for the heads up!
Almost a shame I just picked up a pixel 10a. The biggest annoyance is how much bigger it is than my 5a. But this looks super promising to me. Definitely gonna follow it. Thanks for the heads up!
I also just upgraded, from a Pixel 5 to a Galaxy s25, which is a relatively small phone by today's standards but it is still big. I'll definitely buy this phone if they can raise enough money to...
I also just upgraded, from a Pixel 5 to a Galaxy s25, which is a relatively small phone by today's standards but it is still big.
I'll definitely buy this phone if they can raise enough money to actually make one.
3,500-4,000 mAh battery? Even if it’s user replaceable, uses a lower spec’d processor and has a 720p screen, that’s not going to get you close to a full day of usage on Android.
3,500-4,000 mAh battery? Even if it’s user replaceable, uses a lower spec’d processor and has a 720p screen, that’s not going to get you close to a full day of usage on Android.
I don't know benchmarks or anything but anecdotally, my Pixel 4 with a 2800 mAh battery and a Snapdragon 855 processor with a 1080x2280 screen lasts a full day on a single charge. Granted I've...
I don't know benchmarks or anything but anecdotally, my Pixel 4 with a 2800 mAh battery and a Snapdragon 855 processor with a 1080x2280 screen lasts a full day on a single charge.
Granted I've disabled most Google things and optimized battery in some areas, but the battery size for this phone seems reasonable unless they have a really beefy processor or something. I know nothing about Mediatek processors, but I can't imagine they're super thirsty?
…What? My phone has a 2.9Ah battery, 2.3 megapixel screen, specs that were top-end in 2018, and easily gets 36 hours of battery; 48 if I limit my toilet crosswording. There's absolutely no way you...
…What?
My phone has a 2.9Ah battery, 2.3 megapixel screen, specs that were top-end in 2018, and easily gets 36 hours of battery; 48 if I limit my toilet crosswording. There's absolutely no way you need >4Ah to get more than a day of battery.
Now, can Google and the manufacturer load it up with enough bloatware that it doesn't last a day? Obviously, but that's true at 5Ah, 6Ah, 10Ah, as well.
That’s on par with an iPhone 16 and 16 Pro (the pro max has a bit more at ~4,600 mAh) so is the software difference really that substantial between iPhone and Android? Which existing Android...
That’s on par with an iPhone 16 and 16 Pro (the pro max has a bit more at ~4,600 mAh) so is the software difference really that substantial between iPhone and Android?
Which existing Android models do you have in mind when you compare to this compact phone?
Software is one factor, but another major (potentially bigger) one is SoC efficiency which is one area where Apple tends to do well relative to competitors. Even if the software is doing its best...
Software is one factor, but another major (potentially bigger) one is SoC efficiency which is one area where Apple tends to do well relative to competitors. Even if the software is doing its best to be resource-conscious and keep the hardware in an idle/low-power state, that can be undermined by the SoC if it isn't very efficient.
EDIT: Also, it’s somewhat counterintuitive, but power efficiency isn’t necessarily the only spec that should get attention if long battery life is the goal. An efficient but slow SoC can lose to a less efficient but notably faster SoC because while the former is still spinning its wheels trying to finish the task it’s been given, the latter has already finished and returned to idle.
My Key2LE and KeyOne both lasted a pretty easy day-almost-two on one charge, with batteries in the 3Ah neighbourhood, and my current phone is similar. Either (or more likely, a combination of) we...
My Key2LE and KeyOne both lasted a pretty easy day-almost-two on one charge, with batteries in the 3Ah neighbourhood, and my current phone is similar. Either (or more likely, a combination of) we have very different use-cases, or Google Play Services (disabled on all my devices) is heavier and thirstier than most people would find plausible.
This is definitely it! Up until a couple of weeks ago I was using a Pixel 5 (a phone from 2019) and it easily lasted me a full day. Meanwhile I have coworkers who keep their 10 month old iPhone...
we have very different use-cases
This is definitely it! Up until a couple of weeks ago I was using a Pixel 5 (a phone from 2019) and it easily lasted me a full day. Meanwhile I have coworkers who keep their 10 month old iPhone plugged in at all times and it's because they stay on tiktok and Instagram.
I'll be interested to see how the camera quality is. Megapixels aren't everything. All the software and hardware tricks that the pixel uses make the camera pretty amazing. (I assume the other...
I'll be interested to see how the camera quality is. Megapixels aren't everything.
All the software and hardware tricks that the pixel uses make the camera pretty amazing. (I assume the other flagship devices are similar, the pixel is just what I have). I think I've forgotten the bad old days when you had to think about the lighting in the room when you took a picture. Although I appreciate what they are trying to achieve, I think I'd be hard-pressed to give that up.
I am not too concerned about the camera quality since I don't take a lot of photos. I'm willing to overlook a bad camera for a smaller phone assuming the phone isn't too slow. As long as it's...
I am not too concerned about the camera quality since I don't take a lot of photos. I'm willing to overlook a bad camera for a smaller phone assuming the phone isn't too slow. As long as it's usable, I'll buy it.
For those of you who haven't heard of this project, I figured I'd share this.
It's a new company (Enough Phone) trying to build a compact Android phone. They've posted a few videos and blog posts already but this post outlined the specs of the phone
Oh that’s cool. I hope it can support Graphene OS too.
Almost a shame I just picked up a pixel 10a. The biggest annoyance is how much bigger it is than my 5a. But this looks super promising to me. Definitely gonna follow it. Thanks for the heads up!
I also just upgraded, from a Pixel 5 to a Galaxy s25, which is a relatively small phone by today's standards but it is still big.
I'll definitely buy this phone if they can raise enough money to actually make one.
3,500-4,000 mAh battery? Even if it’s user replaceable, uses a lower spec’d processor and has a 720p screen, that’s not going to get you close to a full day of usage on Android.
I don't know benchmarks or anything but anecdotally, my Pixel 4 with a 2800 mAh battery and a Snapdragon 855 processor with a 1080x2280 screen lasts a full day on a single charge.
Granted I've disabled most Google things and optimized battery in some areas, but the battery size for this phone seems reasonable unless they have a really beefy processor or something. I know nothing about Mediatek processors, but I can't imagine they're super thirsty?
…What?
My phone has a 2.9Ah battery, 2.3 megapixel screen, specs that were top-end in 2018, and easily gets 36 hours of battery; 48 if I limit my toilet crosswording. There's absolutely no way you need >4Ah to get more than a day of battery.
Now, can Google and the manufacturer load it up with enough bloatware that it doesn't last a day? Obviously, but that's true at 5Ah, 6Ah, 10Ah, as well.
That’s on par with an iPhone 16 and 16 Pro (the pro max has a bit more at ~4,600 mAh) so is the software difference really that substantial between iPhone and Android?
Which existing Android models do you have in mind when you compare to this compact phone?
Software is one factor, but another major (potentially bigger) one is SoC efficiency which is one area where Apple tends to do well relative to competitors. Even if the software is doing its best to be resource-conscious and keep the hardware in an idle/low-power state, that can be undermined by the SoC if it isn't very efficient.
EDIT: Also, it’s somewhat counterintuitive, but power efficiency isn’t necessarily the only spec that should get attention if long battery life is the goal. An efficient but slow SoC can lose to a less efficient but notably faster SoC because while the former is still spinning its wheels trying to finish the task it’s been given, the latter has already finished and returned to idle.
My Key2LE and KeyOne both lasted a pretty easy day-almost-two on one charge, with batteries in the 3Ah neighbourhood, and my current phone is similar. Either (or more likely, a combination of) we have very different use-cases, or Google Play Services (disabled on all my devices) is heavier and thirstier than most people would find plausible.
This is definitely it! Up until a couple of weeks ago I was using a Pixel 5 (a phone from 2019) and it easily lasted me a full day. Meanwhile I have coworkers who keep their 10 month old iPhone plugged in at all times and it's because they stay on tiktok and Instagram.
...my iphone mini easily lasts a full day unless it gets hot or runs sloppy code, and it's only 2200 mAH; is android that much worse than iOS?..
I'll be interested to see how the camera quality is. Megapixels aren't everything.
All the software and hardware tricks that the pixel uses make the camera pretty amazing. (I assume the other flagship devices are similar, the pixel is just what I have). I think I've forgotten the bad old days when you had to think about the lighting in the room when you took a picture. Although I appreciate what they are trying to achieve, I think I'd be hard-pressed to give that up.
I am not too concerned about the camera quality since I don't take a lot of photos. I'm willing to overlook a bad camera for a smaller phone assuming the phone isn't too slow. As long as it's usable, I'll buy it.