19 votes

Project Code Rush - The beginnings of Netscape/Mozilla

12 comments

  1. [11]
    CrazyOtter
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    This is one of my favorite technical documentaries. It follows a group of coders at Netscape for a year as they try to save the company from being crushed by Microsoft. With the news here that...

    This is one of my favorite technical documentaries. It follows a group of coders at Netscape for a year as they try to save the company from being crushed by Microsoft.

    With the news here that Microsoft are moving to a browser based off Chromium it looks like we're seeing history repeat itself except instead of Netscape vs Microsoft it's now Mozilla vs Google.

    How many of you use Firefox? If not any particular reasons why?

    p.s. I'm fully aware of the unfortunate fact that this documentary is hosted on Google's infrastructure!

    5 votes
    1. Tardigrade
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      I use it because I like the customisability and also mainly that it's not google or microsoft

      I use it because I like the customisability and also mainly that it's not google or microsoft

      5 votes
    2. [5]
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      1. dblohm7
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        We're going to do better than that: We're going for full site isolation.

        Ideally, Firefox will implement per-tab processes in the future

        We're going to do better than that: We're going for full site isolation.

        3 votes
      2. [2]
        loto
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        Actually, extensions run in their own process now on Firefox Nightly - I don't notice a /huge/ difference as I only use 4ish extensions, but its definitely there!

        Actually, extensions run in their own process now on Firefox Nightly - I don't notice a /huge/ difference as I only use 4ish extensions, but its definitely there!

        1 vote
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          1. loto
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            I remember reading about it a while back, but this (https://www.ghacks.net/2018/08/02/firefox-63-linux-out-of-process-extensions/) was all I could find on it now. If I fire up htop though, firefox...

            I remember reading about it a while back, but this (https://www.ghacks.net/2018/08/02/firefox-63-linux-out-of-process-extensions/) was all I could find on it now. If I fire up htop though, firefox has a few more processes than it used to, so I think it may already implemented in nightly (seems to be 1 process for all extensions though if I understood the article right).

            1 vote
      3. unknown user
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        I believe there's ongoing work in Chromium to improve the situation when many tabs are open, though I don't know exactly what form it's taking. e.g. there are several active bugs relating to "tab...

        but right now they don't seem to be interested in doing anything to solve these issues.

        I believe there's ongoing work in Chromium to improve the situation when many tabs are open, though I don't know exactly what form it's taking. e.g. there are several active bugs relating to "tab groups"; a few related commits landed recently, so I might check to see if there's any user-visible behaviour yet.

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      smores
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      I primarily use Safari. As a general rule I really respect and trust Apple's approach to privacy, and Safari has a lot of things I like (such as not upgrading browser versions in headers in an...

      I primarily use Safari. As a general rule I really respect and trust Apple's approach to privacy, and Safari has a lot of things I like (such as not upgrading browser versions in headers in an attempt to limit the power of browser fingerprinting, and blocking third-party trackers by default). Apple's keychain is also incredibly user friendly and easy to use with apps, websites, etc.

      There are some things that simply don't work on Safari (I'm looking at you, new Google Meets), and when that happens I switch over to Firefox, but that's a pretty rare occurrence.

      3 votes
      1. CrazyOtter
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        It's been a while since I've used Safari but I remember how usable that browser was back then. I guess this due to Apple being a hardware/software company rather than an advertising based company...

        It's been a while since I've used Safari but I remember how usable that browser was back then.

        I guess this due to Apple being a hardware/software company rather than an advertising based company like Google. They don't have the same financial incentives to milk every last bit of data from users.

        1 vote
    4. StellarV
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      I've actually been pretty loyal to Firefox ever since it was first released as Firebird. I've always preferred it because of it being open source, secure, and highly customizable.

      I've actually been pretty loyal to Firefox ever since it was first released as Firebird. I've always preferred it because of it being open source, secure, and highly customizable.

      3 votes
    5. teaearlgraycold
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      I use Firefox on all of my devices (even at work - I'm the one defiant guy who uses a non-supported browser, we technically only support Chrome). It's FOSS It's ran by a company that respects...

      I use Firefox on all of my devices (even at work - I'm the one defiant guy who uses a non-supported browser, we technically only support Chrome).

      1. It's FOSS
      2. It's ran by a company that respects privacy
      3. It has a pretty good built-in password manager. Considering it's not really meant to be a legit password manager, it's actually very secure and convenient.
      1 vote
  2. hook
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    Talking about Firefox vs Chrome/ium, it is important to point out the history of WebKit – its origins go back beyond Google and beyond Apple way back to KDE.

    Talking about Firefox vs Chrome/ium, it is important to point out the history of WebKit – its origins go back beyond Google and beyond Apple way back to KDE.

    4 votes