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With YouTube Music, Google is holding my speakers for ransom

16 comments

  1. weystrom
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    That's funny, considering how good Spotify is with switching and handing off music to different devices, it's kind of a stupid move from Google. Losing consumer faith in already oversaturated...

    That's funny, considering how good Spotify is with switching and handing off music to different devices, it's kind of a stupid move from Google. Losing consumer faith in already oversaturated music streaming market seems like a bad idea.

    8 votes
  2. [2]
    emnii
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    At first, I was mad about this because I thought they were cutting out Bluetooth paired speakers. But it's just another case of Google fucking their own customers by not letting them cast music to...

    At first, I was mad about this because I thought they were cutting out Bluetooth paired speakers. But it's just another case of Google fucking their own customers by not letting them cast music to Google Home attached speakers.

    It does give me reason to look around for a replacement music library service. I'm aware that Youtube Music won't stream while the screen is locked unless you pay, but I hope that doesn't extend to music played from my library. And if they decide to charge for playing through Bluetooth paired speakers, I'm in the same boat as this author.

    6 votes
    1. crdpa
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      It puts in perspective what the world has turned into that people just accept things like this like it's a normal thing. Makes me happy that I'm still a local files guy. I buy from bandcamp and...

      I'm aware that Youtube Music won't stream while the screen is locked unless you pay,

      It puts in perspective what the world has turned into that people just accept things like this like it's a normal thing.

      Makes me happy that I'm still a local files guy. I buy from bandcamp and download it.

      The rare cases I use YouTube to play some music, I use the NewPipe app. No ads, can turn off the screen, can subscribe, make playlists and can download, all without needing an account.

      6 votes
  3. [6]
    Wes
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    I was finally able to transfer my GPM library to Youtube Music, after about a dozen attempts. I'm not pleased at all to hear about these new restrictions. I was hoping the new casting and Google...

    I was finally able to transfer my GPM library to Youtube Music, after about a dozen attempts. I'm not pleased at all to hear about these new restrictions. I was hoping the new casting and Google Home integration of Youtube Music would be more generous, without constantly telling you off for being a free user. It seems they've gone the other way instead.

    I hope this article gets some traction and Google re-examines their support of home libraries.


    edit: I went ahead and tried the Youtube Music integration on Google Home. Not impressed. It doesn't seem to understand how to play library-owned music, so it defaults to "radio play" instead. Radio play runs an ad after every single song - usually for the service itself.

    It also seemed far worse at understanding my inputs (and requests to please stop playing), which is strange.

    If they discontinue GPM before improving this service, I won't be a happy camper.

    5 votes
    1. [5]
      kfwyre
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      Yeah, I tried out YouTube Music and even as a subscriber my experience was largely negative. It seems like they are slowly improving things but I think their vision for YTM and what I want from my...

      Yeah, I tried out YouTube Music and even as a subscriber my experience was largely negative. It seems like they are slowly improving things but I think their vision for YTM and what I want from my music app are very different.

      My husband and I are going to jump ship to Apple Music once Google Play Music shuts down. The biggest downside of this is that we'll lose out on the sweet deal of getting YouTube Premium along with our music subscription.

      4 votes
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        Wes
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        That's a good way of putting it, and I feel similarly. They seem to want to focus on radio play and Youtube mashup stuff, and that's just not in my interest at all. I have my favourite albums, and...

        their vision for YTM and what I want from my music app are very different

        That's a good way of putting it, and I feel similarly. They seem to want to focus on radio play and Youtube mashup stuff, and that's just not in my interest at all. I have my favourite albums, and I want to play them without friction.

        I'm not sure how many tracks the Apple locker service allows, but I'd also consider the switch if I were in that ecosystem. Android and iOS are so equally matched nowadays I don't think it would be a hard transition.

        3 votes
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          Weldawadyathink
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          By the way, Apple Music exists on android. The app is review bombed to hell, so don’t judge it from the play store rating. From what I have heard, Apple Music on Android follows material design...

          By the way, Apple Music exists on android. The app is review bombed to hell, so don’t judge it from the play store rating. From what I have heard, Apple Music on Android follows material design better than many google apps.

          3 votes
          1. Wes
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            Appreciate the heads up! That's a very... non-traditional Apple thing to do. But credit where credit is due.

            Appreciate the heads up! That's a very... non-traditional Apple thing to do. But credit where credit is due.

            2 votes
      2. SkewedSideburn
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        Honestly, that's kind of the only thing that's keeping me on YTM

        The biggest downside of this is that we'll lose out on the sweet deal of getting YouTube Premium along with our music subscription.

        Honestly, that's kind of the only thing that's keeping me on YTM

        2 votes
  4. [3]
    scrambo
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    I gotta say, since I've heard about GPM shutting down earlier this spring, I've been weighing the pros/cons of Spotify vs YTM. This exact article was the deciding factor in switching to Spotify. I...

    I gotta say, since I've heard about GPM shutting down earlier this spring, I've been weighing the pros/cons of Spotify vs YTM. This exact article was the deciding factor in switching to Spotify. I transferred over my ~5 most important playlists using tunemymusic and I'm going from there. I'm making a conscious effort at this point to move away from Big G at every point that I can.

    Migration took about 30 minutes total, easy as pie

    4 votes
    1. Crespyl
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      I'm a little bummed out, but in that "I knew this would happen sooner or later anyway" kind of way. I've been a big fan of GPM for years, and started using it almost entirely because of the...

      I'm a little bummed out, but in that "I knew this would happen sooner or later anyway" kind of way.

      I've been a big fan of GPM for years, and started using it almost entirely because of the "upload your own music" feature, which made it really easy to share my collection to my phone. I grew to like the radio feature (which seemed better at introducing me to new music than Pandora used to be), and even ended up buying a few albums through the service. I don't expect I'll be spending money on YTM anytime soon.

      With any Google service outside of maybe GMail or YouTube, there's always sort of that background suspicion that it'll get shut down sooner or later, so it's not exactly surprising and I've had plenty of time to arrange backups and alternatives, but I am going to miss the convenience. I've been having fun with MPD for the last year or so, and maybe I'll finally get around to trying out Mopidy and/or some other FOSS setup to stream my library to my phone.

      4 votes
    2. ReapersGale
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      When the youtube music app first came out I trialed it for a few weeks; listened to nothing but rock and metal and at the end my recommended music (which took up 80% of the home page interface...

      When the youtube music app first came out I trialed it for a few weeks; listened to nothing but rock and metal and at the end my recommended music (which took up 80% of the home page interface that I had to scroll past to get to my playlists) was 100% filled with country and pop. Around this point ad free youtube stopped being part of paid GPM and it suddenly became part of paid YTM+/GPM+ (ie. tier 2 of paid).

      I swapped to Spotify the next week & switched my adblocker back on for youtube.

      2 votes
  5. [4]
    postdarwin
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    I just tried the app today. Uninstalled after five minutes. This is horrendous. Apart from everything mentioned in the article, I played a single track from my own music and it was followed by an...

    I just tried the app today. Uninstalled after five minutes. This is horrendous. Apart from everything mentioned in the article, I played a single track from my own music and it was followed by an ad. Not even free mp3 players will do that!

    3 votes
    1. [3]
      rish
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      It really sucks. Already downloaded my GMP library offline. I'm not watching ads for things that I own. Not allowing background playback for my own library will be Google hitting themselves on foot.

      It really sucks. Already downloaded my GMP library offline. I'm not watching ads for things that I own. Not allowing background playback for my own library will be Google hitting themselves on foot.

      3 votes
      1. [2]
        ChuckS
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        So funny that there's another trending post on this site that "Google blew a 10 year lead." What are they even doing?

        So funny that there's another trending post on this site that "Google blew a 10 year lead."

        What are they even doing?

        2 votes
        1. hamstergeddon
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          Personally I hope they keep blowing it. They're too big for our own good at this point.

          Personally I hope they keep blowing it. They're too big for our own good at this point.

          5 votes