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US websites no longer work, at all, in EU (?)

So, I had an issue with the radionouspace.net website, referenced here. Since then, I've started hitting the exact same issue on a few other sites ... webpage never resolves, the browser just spins its wheels until it times out.

I went thru and systematically shut down all of my add-ons, no joy. Tried other browsers, does not work anywhere ... except, oddly, sometimes, in TOR. On a hunch, I fired up my VPN service and tried to connect thru a US-based VPN server ... and there it is.

I have now confirmed, multiple websites (I'm assuming these are all US-based -- have not checked) no longer resolve for me, here in Hungary. Can anyone, anywhere else in the EU, confirm this?

I'm guessing this is the US response to the latest GDPR ruling against data-sharing across the Pond, but I'm on a "news fast" and haven't been keeping up-to-date ... anyone care to fill me in -- the "in a nutshell" version?


Update: Definitely something local-ish, probably specific to my ISP. VPN thru Hungary works, non-VPN thru Hungary does not.

13 comments

  1. [3]
    cfabbro
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    I just VPN'd into Hungary, France and Sweden and checked a few of those aforementioned sites, and they all still work fine for me on FF 81.0.2 (latest). As I mentioned in that previous topic, I...

    I just VPN'd into Hungary, France and Sweden and checked a few of those aforementioned sites, and they all still work fine for me on FF 81.0.2 (latest).

    As I mentioned in that previous topic, I suspect something is going on on your end. And given the sites worked for you on a different browser, it's likely something in your particular Firefox setup that is causing the issue (either a privacy setting or addon). So you are likely going to have to fiddle with your settings and addons until you find the culprit. Though it might also be an ISP related DNS or routing issue though, so you could also try giving google or cloudflare's public DNS services a try as well to see if that resolves it for you.

    5 votes
    1. [2]
      Eric_the_Cerise
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      Thanks. Not a EU-wide thing, I guess ... would've heard about it by now. But not a browser thing, either. As I said, I am seeing the same issue with all FF add-ons disabled, and in multiple...

      Thanks. Not a EU-wide thing, I guess ... would've heard about it by now. But not a browser thing, either. As I said, I am seeing the same issue with all FF add-ons disabled, and in multiple different browsers (only exception being TOR browser -- hence my leap to VPN).

      1 vote
      1. cfabbro
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        What about your settings though? Certain privacy features in FF can sometimes break sites, e.g. Strick tracking protection, cookie, or mixed content restricting settings. Although since you're...

        I am seeing the same issue with all FF add-ons disabled

        What about your settings though? Certain privacy features in FF can sometimes break sites, e.g. Strick tracking protection, cookie, or mixed content restricting settings.

        Although since you're also experiencing issues using other browsers and the sites work when connected through TOR/VPN, I am going to guess something might be going on at the ISP level. Can you VPN into Hungary (so hopefully you connect to another ISP in your own country) and see if that fixes it? If it does, then your particular ISP is likely doing something funky.

  2. [4]
    Adys
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    It may be the case for radionouspace.net itself; I've seen it on some canadian governmental website before, but very rarely overall. I highly doubt this is what you're encountering. It also...

    I'm guessing this is the US response to the latest GDPR ruling

    It may be the case for radionouspace.net itself; I've seen it on some canadian governmental website before, but very rarely overall. I highly doubt this is what you're encountering.

    It also depends how the site doesn't resolve. Does it spin forever? Does it immediately give a DNS resolution error? etc.

    I recommend changing your DNS to Cloudflare's to start with, btw. Might help with some censorship issues at the ISP level.

    2 votes
    1. [2]
      ali
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      Works for me from Germany for what it’s worth

      radionouspace.net

      Works for me from Germany for what it’s worth

      2 votes
      1. ohyran
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        Same here in Sweden. Loads fine.

        Same here in Sweden. Loads fine.

        2 votes
    2. Eric_the_Cerise
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      It's not DNS, and it's not just the radionouspace group of sites. I just tried Clouflare, and also Quad9's unfiltered DNS. Same issue. Reconnect VPN thru Miami, and everything works. Browser spins...

      It's not DNS, and it's not just the radionouspace group of sites. I just tried Clouflare, and also Quad9's unfiltered DNS. Same issue. Reconnect VPN thru Miami, and everything works.

      Browser spins until it times out, about 1 minute.

      1 vote
  3. [3]
    Bauke
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    http://radionouspace.net does not work for me when VPNed into the Netherlands but does work not-VPNed in Belgium.

    http://radionouspace.net does not work for me when VPNed into the Netherlands but does work not-VPNed in Belgium.

    2 votes
    1. Whom
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      Same results vpn'd into both lol

      Same results vpn'd into both lol

      3 votes
    2. Adys
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      I can confirm it doesn't work with Proximus in Belgium. I suspect there is a fault at a much lower network level.

      I can confirm it doesn't work with Proximus in Belgium. I suspect there is a fault at a much lower network level.

      2 votes
  4. balooga
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    Interesting. I also can't get to Radio Nouspace from two VPN endpoints in Europe. I'm doing simple pings to the domain. I tested from every country I have access to, and here are my results: β€’...

    Interesting. I also can't get to Radio Nouspace from two VPN endpoints in Europe. I'm doing simple pings to the domain. I tested from every country I have access to, and here are my results:

    β€’ Albania: 🚫 Request timeout β€” ISP is Keminet SHPK
    β€’ Andorra: βœ…
    β€’ Armenia: βœ…
    β€’ Austria: βœ…
    β€’ Belgium: βœ…
    β€’ Bosnia and Herzegovina: βœ…
    β€’ Bulgaria: βœ…
    β€’ Cypress: βœ…
    β€’ Czechia: βœ…
    β€’ Denmark: βœ…
    β€’ Estonia: βœ…
    β€’ Finland: βœ…
    β€’ France: βœ…
    β€’ Georgia: βœ…
    β€’ Germany: βœ…
    β€’ Hungary: βœ…
    β€’ Iceland: βœ…
    β€’ Italy: βœ…
    β€’ Ireland: βœ…
    β€’ Latvia: 🚫 Request timeout β€” ISP is NetArt Group s.r.o.
    β€’ Liechtenstein: βœ…
    β€’ Lithuania: βœ…
    β€’ Luxembourg: βœ…
    β€’ Macedonia: βœ…
    β€’ Malta: βœ…
    β€’ Moldova: βœ…
    β€’ Monaco: βœ…
    β€’ Montenegro: βœ…
    β€’ Netherlands: βœ…
    β€’ Norway: βœ…
    β€’ Poland: βœ…
    β€’ Portugal: βœ…
    β€’ Romania: βœ…
    β€’ Serbia: βœ…
    β€’ Slovakia: βœ…
    β€’ Spain: βœ…
    β€’ Sweden: βœ…
    β€’ Switzerland: βœ…
    β€’ Turkey: βœ…
    β€’ Ukraine: βœ…
    β€’ United Kingdom: βœ…

    The two that didn't work, Albania and Latvia, failed consistently. I also had trouble initially with Belgium, but then it started to work for me and continued to. More testing could reveal if this is an intermittent issue. I also mentioned the ISPs that were failing in case this issue is specific to them. I was able to connect to other sites when using both of those endpoints, only Radio Nouspace didn't work.

    2 votes
  5. [2]
    cfabbro
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    Out of curiosity, has the issue resolved itself yet, or are you still having trouble connecting to certain sites in the US via your ISP? If so, any word on what caused it?

    Out of curiosity, has the issue resolved itself yet, or are you still having trouble connecting to certain sites in the US via your ISP? If so, any word on what caused it?

    1 vote
    1. Eric_the_Cerise
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      Still there. I'm now in the habit of regularly firing up the VPN service, as needed ... but it's also a short list of websites with this issue.

      Still there. I'm now in the habit of regularly firing up the VPN service, as needed ... but it's also a short list of websites with this issue.

      1 vote