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    apoctr Link
    Alright, who wrote that masterpiece?

    Graphic designer and also fuck you for even asking if free will exists as if that's fucking negotiable god damn of course it doesn't exist what do you think choice even is, what is this magical thing you call """choice""" you literally believe in magic ugh omg i cannot

    Alright, who wrote that masterpiece?

    23 votes
    1. rib Link Parent
      Wasn't me but the free will thing does boil down to either something supernatural if you believe it exists outside of everything else tangible in the universe, or you acknowledge that all your...

      Wasn't me but the free will thing does boil down to either something supernatural if you believe it exists outside of everything else tangible in the universe, or you acknowledge that all your actions are the result of an unbroken chain of events. I think the fallacy lies in the perception that there's a future, the only moment that exists presently is the present. Once you stop pretending you can step out of time and observe a chain of events you realize you only ever make one decision and our decisions are a product of our past.

      11 votes
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    Whom (edited ) Link
    I'm sure anyone 28 or older will hate me for even pointing this out, but that is shockingly old! I question how much that has to do with the places users have been taken from and how much it has...

    The average age of all Tildes users who chose to provide an age was 28.27, and the median age was 27.

    I'm sure anyone 28 or older will hate me for even pointing this out, but that is shockingly old! I question how much that has to do with the places users have been taken from and how much it has to do with the goals of the site appealing to bitter people who hate where the internet is right now. Moreover, I wonder how that'll change over time. Assuming this site will grow, does it just attract more of the same demographic, or will it tap into something that younger people realize they also want? That'll be interesting to see, either way.

    h (?)

    I'm 100% sure I know which user this is even if they deny it when I ask them and I'm unsure what to do with this information except laugh really hard. EDIT: I just checked that response and none of the rest of it lines up the user I'm thinking of but I choose to be stubborn and I now believe that they lied on the rest of it.

    Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communist (notable for there being three of them)

    I have either 2 or 3 people I need to make friends with here. I say 2 or 3 because I don't actually remember if I answered that myself.

    The Hogwarts house with the least representation is, surprisingly, Slytherin

    The only reason this doesn't surprise me is that this is likely due to self-identification. I bet if we all decided to do a bunch of decent online Hogwarts house tests, Slytherin would be second, as it tends to be defined as just Ravenclaw but with more self-serving ambition.

    12 votes
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      1. Tardigrade Link Parent
        I imagine it was someone from r/projectboom

        I imagine it was someone from r/projectboom

        2 votes
    2. BuckeyeSundae (edited ) Link Parent
      It may be surprising, but actually Reddit's core demographics on the age front are fairly similar. Average age in reddit is also mid-to-late 20s last I checked. You have some notable exceptions to...

      I'm sure anyone 28 or older will hate me for even pointing this out

      It may be surprising, but actually Reddit's core demographics on the age front are fairly similar. Average age in reddit is also mid-to-late 20s last I checked. You have some notable exceptions to this trend--leagueoflegends, leagueoflegends, fortnite, leagueoflegends--but for the most part, your typical reddit crowd tends to be in their 20s.

      Also, I just turned 30 last week, but I don't hate you for being shocked.

      The only reason this doesn't surprise me is that this is likely due to self-identification.

      Probably. It might also be to do with hard-choosing between vague houses. Each house has traits that overlap with another. Gryffindors are supposed to be the HEROES but are also implicitly loyal (a Hufflepuff thing if there ever were one). Ravenclaws are nerds for nerddom's sake, but competence is a core trait in being Slytherin and Gryffindor too, just tinted with another purpose. Slytherins and Gryffindors are both super concerned with image and ambition, for somewhat different reasons.

      It's hard to escape the notion that Slytherins are infested with racists while gryffindors are infested with elitist pricks who can't imagine why anyone would be annoyed at their self-righteousness. Since the group taking this survey tilted fairly hard left in the self-identify politically, it's presumable that there is more comfort with being infested with elitist, self-righteous pricks than with out-and-out racists.

      Edit: in the interests of transparency, I should self-identify that I said I was ENFJ ("The Protagonist") and put myself as Gryffindor, but could easily be a Slytherin depending on the day and the topics I recently discussed.

      8 votes
    3. Emerald_Knight Link Parent
      I think a lot of it may simply have to do with the following combination: Users in their mid-to-late twenties and into their thirties are typically Millennials, a generation that grew up as the...

      I'm sure anyone 28 or older will hate me for even pointing this out, but that is shockingly old! I question how much that has to do with the places users have been taken from and how much it has to do with the goals of the site appealing to bitter people who hate where the internet is right now.

      I think a lot of it may simply have to do with the following combination:

      • Users in their mid-to-late twenties and into their thirties are typically Millennials, a generation that grew up as the internet really started to take off. The internet practically belonged to Millennials for quite some time.
      • When you're younger, you're really just interested primarily in memes and entertainment. Sure, you can be interested in politics and news as well, but you tend to stick around for the lulz the most.
      • As you grow older, you can still be interested in entertaining content, but you start becoming less interested in the current memes and jokes flying around the internet (Gen Z is now taking over) and instead find yourself wanting to figure out what's going on in the world more than you did when you were younger.
      • As you grow older, you're also often more interested in politics, and with the current state of political polarization plaguing every corner of the internet, it's turning people away from the websites they ordinarily enjoy and destroying what used to be healthy relationships between them and their loved ones.

      Take all of the above and you have an internet culture that is shifting away from Millennials, a tool that they use so frequently that parts of it have become a part of their identity, and on top of it they're shifting away from their old interests and moving onto new ones. Worse still, the growing toxicity floating around is driving them away from the few things they still enjoy on the internet. In other words, there is now a chasm growing between Millennials and the current internet culture, leaving a wide gap in internet identity. Tildes is filling that wide gap for at least a certain subset of that Millennial population because it appeals to those things that are missing. It promises civility, stability, privacy, interesting topics of conversation, and sub-communities that people can become a part of.

      This is coming from another Millennial, but I don't really speak for the majority. This is just my own assessment :)

      Moreover, I wonder how that'll change over time. Assuming this site will grow, does it just attract more of the same demographic, or will it tap into something that younger people realize they also want?

      Right now Tildes is establishing a certain community and mindset, and tools are being considered and developed to keep this community as it is. There will definitely be quite a bit of variation, but I don't think anyone here minds that at all. In fact, we probably welcome that variety openly. What matters is that the core principles of Tildes are upheld. In fact, as Gen Z gets older, they will very likely start experiencing problems similar to the ones Millennials face and a place like Tildes may end up being exactly what they're looking for. I think that could be a very special thing.

      I bet if we all decided to do a bunch of decent online Hogwarts house tests, Slytherin would be second, as it tends to be defined as just Ravenclaw but with more self-serving ambition.

      That's debatable, actually. Slytherins value cunning rather than intelligence, as well as valuing traits like leadership and ambition. They're quite a bit different from Ravenclaws. What I find more surprising is that Hufflepuffs aren't more prevalent than Gryffindors, given their values for e.g. hard work and patience.

      Of course, we could very much disagree on this and I could be way off the mark. In any case, I'm sure enough people here are nerdy enough to have taken the online sorting tests.

      6 votes
    4. SaucedButLeaking Link Parent
      Yeah, 3 or 4 people know what's up. I wish I had thought of that myself

      Yeah, 3 or 4 people know what's up. I wish I had thought of that myself

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    havoc Link
    Well, Pastafarianism is a social movement Ha, relevant xkcd. In regards to the free will question, I'm doubtful everyone understood the definition as presented, especially that it had a spiritual...

    Spaghetti (??)

    Well, Pastafarianism is a social movement

    IRC (2)

    Ha, relevant xkcd.

    In regards to the free will question, I'm doubtful everyone understood the definition as presented, especially that it had a spiritual basis.

    11 votes
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        cfabbro Link Parent
        It saddens me how much slack and discord have taken over... cloud based, VC indebted, privacy... debatable, slow as crap, resource hogs, hard to incorporate into a single client (Rambox does an...

        It saddens me how much slack and discord have taken over... cloud based, VC indebted, privacy... debatable, slow as crap, resource hogs, hard to incorporate into a single client (Rambox does an okay job at it), etc.etc.etc.

        I miss the days of IRC dominance. :(

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        1. Natanael (edited ) Link Parent
          What about Matrix.org / Riot?

          What about Matrix.org / Riot?

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        ourari Link Parent
        irc.tildes.net? anyone? yes please?

        irc.tildes.net? anyone? yes please?

        5 votes
        1. lordpipe Link Parent
          I've heard stuff about adding threaded conversations to IRCv3...

          I've heard stuff about adding threaded conversations to IRCv3...

          3 votes
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      Silbern Link Parent
      I use IRC everyday actually, and I'm well below the age when it was normal. It's a great place to find people interested in anything tech related, and I love sometimes just randomly putting...

      I use IRC everyday actually, and I'm well below the age when it was normal. It's a great place to find people interested in anything tech related, and I love sometimes just randomly putting keywords into the channel name and seeing where I end up. And if the singularity isn't terminal compatible I might just stick with IRC too :P

      5 votes
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        Tardigrade Link Parent
        What client do you use? I always found when I tried it was a pain to find anywhere.

        What client do you use? I always found when I tried it was a pain to find anywhere.

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          pseudolobster Link Parent
          I like using irssi inside a screen session via ssh running on a remote server. It's a bit more setup than most novices are willing to put up with, but it's got some real benefits. First of all it...

          I like using irssi inside a screen session via ssh running on a remote server. It's a bit more setup than most novices are willing to put up with, but it's got some real benefits.

          First of all it masks your home IP, which is nice since it's super easy to find on most IRC servers. You instead show up as the IP of the server you have a shell account on. This gives you privacy and security, which is useful if you happen to be a high profile person or you somehow annoy the wrong people, someone will end up testing the the security of your system for you.

          Secondly, you don't have to worry about keeping your computer on to stay connected. You can just idle in a channel as long as you like, and if your home PC reboots or you put your laptop into sleep mode, the IRC client is still running on the server and you're not missing out on anything; you can still receive privmsgs while your computer is off.

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          1. Tardigrade Link Parent
            That sounds like quite a useful thing to set up for it but a bit of effort. I might give it a shot though.

            That sounds like quite a useful thing to set up for it but a bit of effort. I might give it a shot though.

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          Silbern Link Parent
          I usually use Konversation, a rather old version of it, since it integrates well with my desktop. When I'm on the the terminal, I use weechat, which is definitely more powerful but is indeed kind...

          I usually use Konversation, a rather old version of it, since it integrates well with my desktop. When I'm on the the terminal, I use weechat, which is definitely more powerful but is indeed kind of a pain to set up. I've used xchat once or twice, not enough to issue a definitive opinion, but I've heard good things about it and didn't encounter anything that would change that perception. IRC does require more configuration then for example Skype or Discord, but it's not too bad and you only have to do it once :) did you have problems with the client itself or was it with discovering servers / channels?

          3 votes
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            Tardigrade Link Parent
            I was quite a bit less experienced with computer stuff (for example didn't like how complicated reddit was so never touched it). so I think I was put off by all the settings and my "problem" was...

            I was quite a bit less experienced with computer stuff (for example didn't like how complicated reddit was so never touched it). so I think I was put off by all the settings and my "problem" was just how IRC works with disconnecting and stuff like that. I should give it another shot.

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              Silbern Link Parent
              If you run into any problems or find something confusing, feel free to hit me up and I'll see if I can help :)

              If you run into any problems or find something confusing, feel free to hit me up and I'll see if I can help :)

  4. clerical_terrors Link
    Just a theory but maybe part of what explains the relatively high median age is that Reddit's younger audience also influences it's discourse, and people who are not in the same mental age...

    Just a theory but maybe part of what explains the relatively high median age is that Reddit's younger audience also influences it's discourse, and people who are not in the same mental age category any more are wishing to get away from it?

    7 votes
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    starchturrets Link
    As a 14 year old, I demand to speak with the 15 year old guy.

    As a 14 year old, I demand to speak with the 15 year old guy.

    6 votes
    1. Ten Link Parent
      @icecapman10 is also 14.. so this is a bit odd.

      @icecapman10 is also 14.. so this is a bit odd.

      4 votes
  6. Stone-D Link
    Pretty sure that was me. I don't follow politics and I'm unfamiliar with political labels - especially those in the West as I'm firmly planted in Indonesia. Besides, I have beliefs (mostly hidden...

    Spaghetti (??)

    Pretty sure that was me. I don't follow politics and I'm unfamiliar with political labels - especially those in the West as I'm firmly planted in Indonesia. Besides, I have beliefs (mostly hidden in fear of lynching) that are left, right, imperial, royal, conservative, liberal...

    Spaghetti describes what I see when it comes to politics and bureaucracy in general... plus, as an ordained priest of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster perhaps I was influenced somehow.

    5 votes
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    Silbern Link
    Lol and only of them is even gay :P but I only see two?

    Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communist (notable for there being three of them)

    Lol and only of them is even gay :P but I only see two?

    4 votes
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      1. Silbern Link Parent
        Ah now I see. I imagine as something like this :P

        Ah now I see. I imagine as something like this :P

        2 votes
  8. Algernon_Asimov Link
    Only 2% Australian? :( By the way... thanks for doing this!

    Only 2% Australian?

    :(

    By the way... thanks for doing this!

    4 votes
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    brighteyes720 Link
    The age is absurdly shocking and tbh somewhat unexpected. Compared to reddit where in some subreddits have median age of literally 17-19. I guess it does make sense but I would have expected...

    The age is absurdly shocking and tbh somewhat unexpected. Compared to reddit where in some subreddits have median age of literally 17-19.

    I guess it does make sense but I would have expected around 22 or something. That's actually a good thing - sort of. (And now I feel young for a change).

    4 votes
    1. Tardigrade Link Parent
      It makes for nice varity where some people actually have life experience.

      It makes for nice varity where some people actually have life experience.

      6 votes
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    Elijah Link
    I never saw the original call for filling out a demographics form, but if I was doing one and it asked for my Hogwarts house or MBTI, I'd have likely been one of the ones to not finish the survey....

    I never saw the original call for filling out a demographics form, but if I was doing one and it asked for my Hogwarts house or MBTI, I'd have likely been one of the ones to not finish the survey. The former is vanity bullshit, the latter is pseudo-scientific bullshit.

    4 votes
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      nil Link Parent
      For being "pseudo-scientific bullshit", MBTI has rather impressive predictive power in my experience. That nobody is doing any serious research on a topic does not automatically make it bullshit.

      For being "pseudo-scientific bullshit", MBTI has rather impressive predictive power in my experience. That nobody is doing any serious research on a topic does not automatically make it bullshit.

      1 vote
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        Natanael Link Parent
        Explanatory and predictive isn't really the same thing, if that's that you're getting at.

        Explanatory and predictive isn't really the same thing, if that's that you're getting at.

        1 vote
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          nil Link Parent
          I meant predictive, as in "make a prediction, do an experiment, falsify."

          I meant predictive, as in "make a prediction, do an experiment, falsify."

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            Natanael Link Parent
            And MTBI doesn't really have that to a usable degree. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/cutting-edge-leadership/201402/the-truth-about-myers-briggs-types...
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              nil Link Parent
              I did not say there are no problems with MBTI, I said it has predictive power.

              I did not say there are no problems with MBTI, I said it has predictive power.

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                Natanael Link Parent
                The links disagree

                The links disagree

                1. nil Link Parent
                  Yes, but they do no offer any falsification, but only anecdotal "evidence". I also have anecdotal evidence: I did experiments, they showed predictive power with reasonable confidence. Of course...

                  Yes, but they do no offer any falsification, but only anecdotal "evidence". I also have anecdotal evidence: I did experiments, they showed predictive power with reasonable confidence. Of course N<10, so my results are worthless, but at least I tried.

                  Until definite research is done, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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    luhem Link
    I know there are at least a couple of people running around with lineageOS on their phone based on a thread I was on earlier.

    The most prominent non‐major desktop OS is ChromeOS, with four replies. There are zero people who use anything but iOS or Android on their mobile devices.

    I know there are at least a couple of people running around with lineageOS on their phone based on a thread I was on earlier.

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        apoctr Link Parent
        True. Then again ChromeOS is Linux but you included that separately.

        True. Then again ChromeOS is Linux but you included that separately.

        3 votes
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          1. apoctr Link Parent
            I mean ChromeOS is based off of Gentoo Linux. In it's default state what you can do is pretty limited, but it still uses the Linux kernel. What it is not, AFAIK, is GNU/Linux which is what most...

            I mean ChromeOS is based off of Gentoo Linux. In it's default state what you can do is pretty limited, but it still uses the Linux kernel. What it is not, AFAIK, is GNU/Linux which is what most people mean when they say Linux.

            2 votes
          2. Jedi Link Parent
            It's quite easy to “hack” it assuming you know how to use the terminal. Linux applications is currently in beta, but yes you can (exclusive to the Pixelbook during beta).

            Isn't ChromeOS locked down hard?

            It's quite easy to “hack” it assuming you know how to use the terminal.

            Can you actually get to the Linux parts?

            Linux applications is currently in beta, but yes you can (exclusive to the Pixelbook during beta).

            2 votes
          3. Natanael Link Parent
            Yes and no, because most of them come with a developer mode switch that gives you full power. It's locked down while that switch is off.

            Yes and no, because most of them come with a developer mode switch that gives you full power. It's locked down while that switch is off.

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          geosmin (edited ) Link Parent
          By that metric you could almost argue that Android is Linux as well, I think it's fine to distinct ChromeOS from Linux in general.

          By that metric you could almost argue that Android is Linux as well, I think it's fine to distinct ChromeOS from Linux in general.

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          1. apoctr Link Parent
            Android is Linux, yeah. Or it uses a modified Linux kernel, to be more specific. However what most people mean by "Linux" is GNU/Linux, which it and ChromeOS are not. I agree in this case it's...

            Android is Linux, yeah. Or it uses a modified Linux kernel, to be more specific. However what most people mean by "Linux" is GNU/Linux, which it and ChromeOS are not.

            I agree in this case it's interesting to make the distinction between GNU/Linux distributions and ChromeOS, but they can both be described as "Linux".

            I also think it's interesting to make a distinction between people using AOSP, OEM builds and custom ROMs like LineageOS, even though they can all be described as just "Android".

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      2. luhem Link Parent
        I'm sorry, a lineageOS cannot create fertile offspring after mating with a Android. Thusly, LineageOS is sepreate and distinct from Android.

        I'm sorry, a lineageOS cannot create fertile offspring after mating with a Android. Thusly, LineageOS is sepreate and distinct from Android.

        2 votes
    2. hook Link Parent
      I would have written SailfishOS, but just bought a new phone since my Jolla 1 just gave up on me and SailfishOS support for my phone is to come in the next update.

      I would have written SailfishOS, but just bought a new phone since my Jolla 1 just gave up on me and SailfishOS support for my phone is to come in the next update.

      4 votes
  12. Askme_about_penguins Link
    Looking forward to it. Cheers to that.

    Thank you to every single person who participated in the first demographics survey, in what I plan to be a recurring event! I appreciate the time you took, and I hope you find the results fascinating.

    Looking forward to it. Cheers to that.

    1 vote