I think I'd like it. In fact we briefly talked about having the reply box also have a command line mode of some kind. Remember all the one-off bots with commands on reddit? "!remindme 5 days" etc....
I think I'd like it. In fact we briefly talked about having the reply box also have a command line mode of some kind. Remember all the one-off bots with commands on reddit? "!remindme 5 days" etc. I kinda like the idea of building that stuff in as a command-line interface and not showing it all as replies.
That's a brilliant idea! When the API stuff is here you could also probably have a system where you register the command when you generate an api key, and then an event gets sent off whenever...
That's a brilliant idea! When the API stuff is here you could also probably have a system where you register the command when you generate an api key, and then an event gets sent off whenever someone types that command in
That's great idea! And if bots will be allowed here, why not to do it this way? Summon bot via command in reply box and the bot will reply, but comments of bots will be only visible to the one who...
That's great idea! And if bots will be allowed here, why not to do it this way? Summon bot via command in reply box and the bot will reply, but comments of bots will be only visible to the one who summoned him. This could have great potential.
Make it work in lynx or links and I'd use that some of the time. Currently lynx can't login: 400 Bad CSRF Origin Access is denied. This server can not verify that the origin or referrer of your...
Make it work in lynx or links and I'd use that some of the time.
Currently lynx can't login:
400 Bad CSRF Origin
Access is denied. This server can not verify that the origin or
referrer of your request matches the current site. Either your browser
supplied the wrong Origin or Referrer or it did not supply one at all.
Origin checking failed - no Origin or Referer.
And elinks can login, but it doesn't stick. The first page shows me the list of topics, but I can't follow any of the links, it takes me to the "Tildes is currently in invite-only alpha" page again.
I'd try edbrowse but I'm not feeling masochistic enough right now.
Do you have lynx/elinks set up in a kind of enhanced privacy mode or something? Do you normally just use them to browse logged-out and read-only? It sounds like lynx isn't sending an Origin...
Do you have lynx/elinks set up in a kind of enhanced privacy mode or something? Do you normally just use them to browse logged-out and read-only? It sounds like lynx isn't sending an Origin header, and elinks isn't retaining cookies.
Trying again, I found login in lynx in my configuration consistently fails if I load https://tildes.net/ as the first page but works if I start with https://tildes.net/login — so it could be...
Trying again, I found login in lynx in my configuration consistently fails if I load https://tildes.net/ as the first page but works if I start with https://tildes.net/login — so it could be something weird with visiting the page from a link, or somehow that interacts poorly with my lynx config. The first page does identify itself as a 403.
Anyway, after I log in, I cannot reply to your post in lynx because: <li><a class="post-button" name="reply" data-js-comment-reply-button>Reply</a><li>. Lynx is not a javascript-capable browser.
I found a config issue with elinks, now I can login with that. Still have the same issue trying to post.
Yeah, there will be a lot of things that won't work if you can't use javascript. It's possible to fix some of it if we do things like have a separate page specifically for replying to a particular...
Yeah, there will be a lot of things that won't work if you can't use javascript. It's possible to fix some of it if we do things like have a separate page specifically for replying to a particular comment (like Hacker News does), but that's not the sort of thing I'm going to prioritize.
Once the site's open-source it might be something that someone feels strongly enough about to work on though.
I'm blanking on how now, but I recall there's a way to make links do one thing if you have JS and another if you don't. That's a cheap way to get things to work. Or I can refresh my mind on using...
I'm blanking on how now, but I recall there's a way to make links do one thing if you have JS and another if you don't. That's a cheap way to get things to work.
Or I can refresh my mind on using edbrowse and try that. It supports limited javascript, but the interface is optimized for Braille displays that can only show one line at a time. This is great if you use a Braille display and non-ideal if you don't think ed represents the pinnacle of user interfaces.
Yeah, that part is fairly straightforward. The part that takes more work is building an entirely separate page that only needs to exist for users without JS enabled.
I'm blanking on how now, but I recall there's a way to make links do one thing if you have JS and another if you don't. That's a cheap way to get things to work.
Yeah, that part is fairly straightforward. The part that takes more work is building an entirely separate page that only needs to exist for users without JS enabled.
I would! I would be very much interested, and I'd love to look at the source code of such a project if whoever were to make such a thing would be so kind as to throw it online :D
I would! I would be very much interested, and I'd love to look at the source code of such a project if whoever were to make such a thing would be so kind as to throw it online :D
That'd be pretty interesting. I've been looking to move things over to the command line when possible lately. I spend a lot of my time using one anyway.
That'd be pretty interesting. I've been looking to move things over to the command line when possible lately. I spend a lot of my time using one anyway.
It's already pretty decent in Emacs/eww browser: https://i.imgur.com/oGSHnw1.png Aside I believe Markdown image embedding syntax was supported at some point.. Below: ![Tildes.net in Emacs...
hey tildefriends: i run a linux user group over at tilde.team we're all about teaching and learning *nix stuff by working on collaborative projects. if that sounds like it would be down your...
hey tildefriends:
i run a linux user group over at tilde.team
we're all about teaching and learning *nix stuff by working on collaborative projects. if that sounds like it would be down your alley, come stop by!
I think I'd like it. In fact we briefly talked about having the reply box also have a command line mode of some kind. Remember all the one-off bots with commands on reddit? "!remindme 5 days" etc. I kinda like the idea of building that stuff in as a command-line interface and not showing it all as replies.
That's a brilliant idea! When the API stuff is here you could also probably have a system where you register the
command
when you generate an api key, and then an event gets sent off whenever someone types that command inThat's great idea! And if bots will be allowed here, why not to do it this way? Summon bot via command in reply box and the bot will reply, but comments of bots will be only visible to the one who summoned him. This could have great potential.
I like it! Sounds like a lot of design inspiration could be taken from Telegram's inline bots, too.
Ah, someone's already done it this way, that's cool.
https://core.telegram.org/bots/inline
Make it work in lynx or links and I'd use that some of the time.
Currently lynx can't login:
And elinks can login, but it doesn't stick. The first page shows me the list of topics, but I can't follow any of the links, it takes me to the "Tildes is currently in invite-only alpha" page again.
I'd try edbrowse but I'm not feeling masochistic enough right now.
Added to issues tracker: https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes/issues/128
w3m
seems to work fine, but the visual information of nested comments is deleted, making it useless.I just used lynx by the way and it worked fine.
Hmmm. Could be a config issue. I'll have to try again.
I only tested it on one specific page though (a link to a post directly), not by visiting the main page right away. ymmv
Do you have lynx/elinks set up in a kind of enhanced privacy mode or something? Do you normally just use them to browse logged-out and read-only? It sounds like lynx isn't sending an
Origin
header, and elinks isn't retaining cookies.Trying again, I found login in lynx in my configuration consistently fails if I load https://tildes.net/ as the first page but works if I start with https://tildes.net/login — so it could be something weird with visiting the page from a link, or somehow that interacts poorly with my lynx config. The first page does identify itself as a 403.
Anyway, after I log in, I cannot reply to your post in lynx because: <li><a class="post-button" name="reply" data-js-comment-reply-button>Reply</a><li>. Lynx is not a javascript-capable browser.
I found a config issue with elinks, now I can login with that. Still have the same issue trying to post.
Yeah, there will be a lot of things that won't work if you can't use javascript. It's possible to fix some of it if we do things like have a separate page specifically for replying to a particular comment (like Hacker News does), but that's not the sort of thing I'm going to prioritize.
Once the site's open-source it might be something that someone feels strongly enough about to work on though.
I'm blanking on how now, but I recall there's a way to make links do one thing if you have JS and another if you don't. That's a cheap way to get things to work.
Or I can refresh my mind on using
edbrowse
and try that. It supports limited javascript, but the interface is optimized for Braille displays that can only show one line at a time. This is great if you use a Braille display and non-ideal if you don't thinked
represents the pinnacle of user interfaces.Yeah, that part is fairly straightforward. The part that takes more work is building an entirely separate page that only needs to exist for users without JS enabled.
Yeah, there's work there. It doesn't have to be a sophisticated page though. Just a textarea with a submit and back button.
I’ve been planning to learn Rust for a while, so writing a Tildes CLI sounds like a perfect exercise
Not me, personally, but I'm all for it if it means quickening the launch of an API.
I would! I would be very much interested, and I'd love to look at the source code of such a project if whoever were to make such a thing would be so kind as to throw it online :D
Yeah, such a client being free software is imperative.
That'd be pretty interesting. I've been looking to move things over to the command line when possible lately. I spend a lot of my time using one anyway.
It's already pretty decent in Emacs/eww browser:
https://i.imgur.com/oGSHnw1.png
Aside
I believe Markdown image embedding syntax was supported at some point..
Below:
results in:
!Tildes.net in Emacs eww
A RSS feed would be nice in general, or does that exist and I've just missed it?
hey tildefriends:
i run a linux user group over at tilde.team
we're all about teaching and learning *nix stuff by working on collaborative projects. if that sounds like it would be down your alley, come stop by!
this is the kind of project we're looking for!
A client like rtv (Reddit terminal viewer) would be super for ~tildes