14 votes

Posting original links (own content)

What is our policy about posting original contents (e.g. me submitting a blog post I wrote, which I just did a few minutes ago)?

IMO, if it is a personal blog, it should be okay, and not really different from submitting a text topic here. Especially if the blog is not tracking you.

16 comments

  1. [5]
    Whom Link
    It seems like we've generally gone by the "user with a site, not a site with a Tildes account" thing. It's also been more or less standard to mention in a tag or in a comment somewhere that you're...

    It seems like we've generally gone by the "user with a site, not a site with a Tildes account" thing. It's also been more or less standard to mention in a tag or in a comment somewhere that you're posting your own content, though I don't think there's a rule there either.

    edit: See this thread...which it looks like you participated in :P

    16 votes
    1. cadadr Link Parent
      Oh God yes... just noticed that :D Thanks for the link!

      edit: See this thread...which it looks like you participated in :P

      Oh God yes... just noticed that :D Thanks for the link!

      6 votes
    2. [3]
      Algernon_Asimov Link Parent
      It's okay. If the poster doesn't mention it themselves, I'm sure that someone helpful will come along and tag their topic as "self promotion". :)

      It's also been more or less standard to mention in a tag or in a comment somewhere that you're posting your own content, though I don't think there's a rule there either.

      It's okay. If the poster doesn't mention it themselves, I'm sure that someone helpful will come along and tag their topic as "self promotion". :)

      3 votes
      1. [2]
        ThatFanficGuy Link Parent
        One can tag others' topics? I don't see button for it.

        One can tag others' topics? I don't see button for it.

        1. Algernon_Asimov Link Parent
          Some people can tag others' topics; it's not available to all and sundry. @Deimos gave this ability to some people a while ago.

          Some people can tag others' topics; it's not available to all and sundry. @Deimos gave this ability to some people a while ago.

          2 votes
  2. [2]
    hungariantoast Link
    You've already received plenty of answers, but just to reaffirm them, I would think that you, a long time user and contributor to this site and community, have every right to post content you have...

    You've already received plenty of answers, but just to reaffirm them, I would think that you, a long time user and contributor to this site and community, have every right to post content you have created as much as you desire.

    I would also argue that this "user with a site, not a site with a Tildes account" mantra is also worth debating, as I don't think it should be enforced or followed as strictly as some users may.

    Let us say that, tomorrow, a user registers their brand new account, and they then immediately post a topic linking to their blog, and this topic generates an amount of good discussion.

    Then the user does this again, next week.

    And the week after that...

    Every week they post another topic linking to their blog. The discussion is always good, but the poster of these topics never contributes, never comments, and never posts topics about anything, anywhere else. Their only participation on this website is linking to content that they have written on their own platform.

    I have no problem with this, as long as a couple of assumptions are confirmed.

    First, the blog in question isn't profiting off of advertisements, or the Tildes users visiting the blog aren't otherwise being taken advantage of for some purpose. Secondly, the discussion generated by these topics is plentiful and of good quality.

    So long as these two conditions are true, I don't see why we would ever want to limit the ability of the author to link their content to users here.

    (Please note, there could be other conditions that we should consider in this extreme scenario, and I may have not thought of them yet.)

    I bring this up because if I were to ever start posting content that I had been the author of, I would certainly do it under a profile whose username would be my real name, so as to not link this username's identity (and its opinions) with that of the 'real' me. So my alt account, which I would use to post my own content to the site, would probably only be used for that purpose.

    As you might have guessed, this muddies the seemingly clear rule of "user with a site, not a site with a Tildes account" and that's why I think we might eventually need a better system or idea for dealing with this, once it (possibly) becomes a problem.

    7 votes
    1. cadadr Link Parent
      Thanks! I totally agree with what you said. Maybe a better mantra is "don't use Tildes for your site, but you can use your site for Tildes if you will"; admittedly it needs rewording. When it is...

      Thanks!

      I totally agree with what you said. Maybe a better mantra is "don't use Tildes for your site, but you can use your site for Tildes if you will"; admittedly it needs rewording. When it is an ethical website (dumb ads, no tracking [including analytics? I think yes if 3rd party], no clickbait), it should be okay.

      TBH, the post that prompted me to ask this, I could've posted it as a text post, if it were not originally written with Textile markup (and if the result of pandoc did not require some editing). I have already made a blog post from a comment I wrote here (comment, blog post), and I have no problem with text moving in the other direction, and becoming a text post here. But when it is not Tildes Markdown, that's hard.

      Actually, thinking while writing, I guess I don't really have a problem if the website has ads, as long as the content is not clickbait made to show ads: great if I help a fellow ~ make some $$ (tho I use adblocking).

      But the main problem would be policing this and telling the abusers from good users: it could potentially become a burden on moderation as things are now (tho as the amount of moderators increase, it may become easier).

      1 vote
  3. [2]
    dwightwalters Link
    So I'm curious about this as well. I self-publish my own novels and narrate audiobooks for other authors. I'd love to share the work I do, especially when it's relevant to existing conversations...

    So I'm curious about this as well. I self-publish my own novels and narrate audiobooks for other authors. I'd love to share the work I do, especially when it's relevant to existing conversations in posts and threads. But on other sites this gets frowned at as self-promotion while the same bestsellers are recommended and shared a million times.

    I'd really like a forum where independent creators of all stripes can share their work without being accused of polluting the discourse with self-promotion. I'm hoping tildes allows a way to do this. We're just struggling artists. We're not shills or marketing hustlers (although I do understand that very often those hustlers show up and spam threads and ruin it all for the rest of us). But there must be a way...

    6 votes
    1. Bauke Link Parent
      It's definitely allowed but be sensible, see Deimos' response here with a really good takeaway from it: The same goes for any other types of work, not just websites.

      It's definitely allowed but be sensible, see Deimos' response here with a really good takeaway from it:

      it's fine to be a Tildes user with a website, but not to be a website with a Tildes account

      The same goes for any other types of work, not just websites.

      9 votes
  4. [7]
    acdw Link
    I know I've posted my own content before, but I haven't tagged it as "self promotion"... I wasn't aware that was a thing. From what others say here it seems okay, and I agree with @dwightwalters...

    I know I've posted my own content before, but I haven't tagged it as "self promotion"... I wasn't aware that was a thing. From what others say here it seems okay, and I agree with @dwightwalters that we need a place to self-publish without being denigrated.

    3 votes
    1. [6]
      cadadr Link Parent
      ~creative is the place where we can show off our creative stuff. I don't think every original piece makes self promotion. I posted this question after submitting a link to an article on my blog. I...

      ~creative is the place where we can show off our creative stuff.

      I don't think every original piece makes self promotion. I posted this question after submitting a link to an article on my blog. I don't think it is that much different than a text post here, especially because it is not something I monetise (not even any analytics or affiliate links [as of writing this comment] on the website).

      4 votes
      1. [5]
        acdw Link Parent
        Cool, thank you! Do you know if there are any plans to have workshop-type topics on ~creative? Or should I just start one and see what happens?

        Cool, thank you! Do you know if there are any plans to have workshop-type topics on ~creative? Or should I just start one and see what happens?

        3 votes
        1. [4]
          cadadr Link Parent
          I am not aware. When I was starting the "What are you reading these days" posts over at ~books I first asked the community what they thought about it, and the feedback encouraged me starting it...

          I am not aware. When I was starting the "What are you reading these days" posts over at ~books I first asked the community what they thought about it, and the feedback encouraged me starting it and helped make it a better, more useful thing.

          Edit: BTW, what kind of workshops are you talking about? I'd be happy to participate in anything related to literature. I'd be glad if you could ping me if you start making them.

          3 votes
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            acdw Link Parent
            Like writing workshops. When I was in school, I took a weekly poetry workshop class where all the classmembers would send in their poems, then someone would put them together and we'd read all of...

            Like writing workshops. When I was in school, I took a weekly poetry workshop class where all the classmembers would send in their poems, then someone would put them together and we'd read all of them and workshop them -- that is, we'd go over how we perceived the poem, how we thought it could be made better, etc.

            Since graduating, I've half-heartedly tried to get into some groups with my former classmates to workshop poems, but it never really took off. If there's enough interest here, I'd love to try getting it going on tildes. There are some subreddits like /r/OCPoetry that also do it, but I never really got into those.

            2 votes
            1. [2]
              cadadr Link Parent
              Oh, that'd be great to have! Go for it! I don't write much in English, but I'd love to participate as a critic.

              Oh, that'd be great to have! Go for it!

              I don't write much in English, but I'd love to participate as a critic.

              2 votes
              1. acdw Link Parent
                Okay, cool! I guess I'll post up the first of a weekly workshop series, and take it from there. Thanks for the motivation.

                Okay, cool! I guess I'll post up the first of a weekly workshop series, and take it from there. Thanks for the motivation.

                2 votes