I guess. It seems like the exact wrong message to send and way to do it given the current climate but I’ve often felt the Dems stance on crime is hypocritical
I guess. It seems like the exact wrong message to send and way to do it given the current climate but I’ve often felt the Dems stance on crime is hypocritical
Really? It seems textbook to me. If you live in NYC, there is a lot of discontentment over how unsafe MTA feels. Generally there's been a backlash back towards being tough on crime. You see the...
Really? It seems textbook to me. If you live in NYC, there is a lot of discontentment over how unsafe MTA feels. Generally there's been a backlash back towards being tough on crime. You see the same in SF, where the more "experimental", let's say, distract attorney was firmly voted out in favor of DA who would be more traditional in charging criminals.
Oh, yeah. New York Democrats are willing to talk the talk, but as soon as they're supposed to walk the walk, they show themselves to really be closer to the moderate Republicans of decades past...
Oh, yeah. New York Democrats are willing to talk the talk, but as soon as they're supposed to walk the walk, they show themselves to really be closer to the moderate Republicans of decades past than anything else.
EDIT: Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just weird to see absolutely everyone who is interested in a functional government hanging out in a single political party.
See I’m conflicted, I wouldn’t mind them in my city. I would rather take public transportation over Uber but it’s gotten a lot worse lately. Between people openly shooting up on the platform in...
See I’m conflicted, I wouldn’t mind them in my city. I would rather take public transportation over Uber but it’s gotten a lot worse lately. Between people openly shooting up on the platform in the middle of the day and encountering massive groups of teenagers wearing full face coverings smoking on the train it creates a sense of lawlessness. This isn’t a permanent solution though, and while it is definitely posturing, an increased police/military presence would make me feel a little safer.
I mean, yeah, the NG is for states to do what they want with... But, this isn't a good look to me? What emergency activated them? The emergency that you haven't done anything about a problem for...
I mean, yeah, the NG is for states to do what they want with...
But, this isn't a good look to me? What emergency activated them? The emergency that you haven't done anything about a problem for too long? Do we really want to normalize activating the Guard to search bags on the subway? Like, I'm perfectly comfortable around Soldiers but if you have to station military troops at the subway stairs... You've fucked up, right?
That's what I don't get. Either they've got info they can't share, or this looks like MASSIVE overreaction? The standard is "we're paying the cops more so they can put more police on the metro" or...
That's what I don't get. Either they've got info they can't share, or this looks like MASSIVE overreaction? The standard is "we're paying the cops more so they can put more police on the metro" or "creating a task force" or whatever.
The NYC and New York state governments don't always agree. I wonder how they're getting along now? Here's a bit more detail: Hochul deploys National Guard, state police to do mandatory bag checks...
The NYC and New York state governments don't always agree. I wonder how they're getting along now?
Hochul and her office teased the new plan earlier this week and promised to deploy additional state personnel to the subways to supplement Mayor Eric Adams’ plans to station an additional 1,000 NYPD officers there.
Subway riders should expect more random searches of bags and backpacks amid a rise in transit crime, including three fatal shootings so far this year.
Mayor Eric Adams said on Tuesday that the practice, which has existed in an ad hoc capacity since 2005, would now be expanded.
Adams has said the city is deploying an additional 1,000 NYPD officers to patrol the subway. And the state is planning to deploy personnel to assist police with bag checks, said Avi Small, a spokesperson for Gov. Kathy Hochul.
It is (generally) against posse comitatus to use federal military personnel in law enforcement roles in the United States without martial law being declared. When not federally activated, national...
It is (generally) against posse comitatus to use federal military personnel in law enforcement roles in the United States without martial law being declared. When not federally activated, national guard and air guard personnel generally fall under Title 32 or “state active duty” roles… Posse comitatus does not apply to either National or Air Guard while in either of these statuses. It’s pretty much the entire purpose of their existence, to be used by governors in emergency situations in which first responders are overwhelmed… although we seem to be straying further and further from that concept over the last several years.
DSCA is an entirely different concept where federal/federalized troops are used to augment civil authorities, and there are only very narrow exceptions permitted to avoid running into posse comitatus issues.
This seems like an absurd over reaction/really stupid posturing?
Who wants this?
People who want to feel like Democrats are tough on crime when they go to vote in the NY primaries in less than a month?
I guess. It seems like the exact wrong message to send and way to do it given the current climate but I’ve often felt the Dems stance on crime is hypocritical
Really? It seems textbook to me. If you live in NYC, there is a lot of discontentment over how unsafe MTA feels. Generally there's been a backlash back towards being tough on crime. You see the same in SF, where the more "experimental", let's say, distract attorney was firmly voted out in favor of DA who would be more traditional in charging criminals.
Oh, yeah. New York Democrats are willing to talk the talk, but as soon as they're supposed to walk the walk, they show themselves to really be closer to the moderate Republicans of decades past than anything else.
EDIT: Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just weird to see absolutely everyone who is interested in a functional government hanging out in a single political party.
See I’m conflicted, I wouldn’t mind them in my city. I would rather take public transportation over Uber but it’s gotten a lot worse lately. Between people openly shooting up on the platform in the middle of the day and encountering massive groups of teenagers wearing full face coverings smoking on the train it creates a sense of lawlessness. This isn’t a permanent solution though, and while it is definitely posturing, an increased police/military presence would make me feel a little safer.
Honestly the data supports the view that adding more visible security officers reduces crime rates, so I think it's a good idea: https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/04/20/988769793/when-you-add-more-police-to-a-city-what-happens
I mean, yeah, the NG is for states to do what they want with...
But, this isn't a good look to me? What emergency activated them? The emergency that you haven't done anything about a problem for too long? Do we really want to normalize activating the Guard to search bags on the subway? Like, I'm perfectly comfortable around Soldiers but if you have to station military troops at the subway stairs... You've fucked up, right?
That's what I don't get. Either they've got info they can't share, or this looks like MASSIVE overreaction? The standard is "we're paying the cops more so they can put more police on the metro" or "creating a task force" or whatever.
Involving the NG feels fucking insane.
The NYC and New York state governments don't always agree. I wonder how they're getting along now?
Here's a bit more detail:
Hochul deploys National Guard, state police to do mandatory bag checks in NYC subway
Here's that story, from yesterday:
NYPD will ramp up subway bag checks as Gov. Hochul pledges to deploy state personnel
I guess they're working together? Hard to say.
Is it not against the law to use the national guard for law enforcement? Or is that only the regular military?
It is (generally) against posse comitatus to use federal military personnel in law enforcement roles in the United States without martial law being declared. When not federally activated, national guard and air guard personnel generally fall under Title 32 or “state active duty” roles… Posse comitatus does not apply to either National or Air Guard while in either of these statuses. It’s pretty much the entire purpose of their existence, to be used by governors in emergency situations in which first responders are overwhelmed… although we seem to be straying further and further from that concept over the last several years.
DSCA is an entirely different concept where federal/federalized troops are used to augment civil authorities, and there are only very narrow exceptions permitted to avoid running into posse comitatus issues.
It's definitely possible to deploy troops to carry out law enforcement using "Defense Support of Civil Authorities".