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‘The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power’ premiere draws twenty-five million global viewers in first day, Amazon says

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  1. [7]
    Grendel
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    I really liked it myself. I've read the Silmarilliin though, which took place before the events of this series and it provides some context that other viewers may lack, so that could be...

    I really liked it myself. I've read the Silmarilliin though, which took place before the events of this series and it provides some context that other viewers may lack, so that could be influenceing my opinion in a positive direction.

    My wife LOVES LOTR but hasn't read the Silmarilliin and she was a bit underwhelmed. She didn't dislike it, but I think it needs to pick up the pace a bit going forward. They've had two one hour episodes to set the history and stage, they need to start moving or lltheyll lose people quickly

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    1. streblo
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      Basically my experience as well. It’s a pretty good watch for fans of the series, and very cool to see the larger universe on the big screen. I’m actually amazed it seems to be aimed where it is —...

      Basically my experience as well.

      It’s a pretty good watch for fans of the series, and very cool to see the larger universe on the big screen. I’m actually amazed it seems to be aimed where it is — the story is of course serviceable for new fans but you greatly benefit from some additional context if you’ve read The Silmarillion.

      2 votes
    2. [4]
      knocklessmonster
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      I haven't read the Silmarillion and didn't really feel like I was missing anything, except where I wasn't paying enough attention, missing details mentioned in the show (fotunately it was a watch...

      I haven't read the Silmarillion and didn't really feel like I was missing anything, except where I wasn't paying enough attention, missing details mentioned in the show (fotunately it was a watch party so I got caught up).

      I doagree that it was slow and the pacing needs to improve, but they've got that sense of scale that the LOTR movies had, which is great. I'm willing to chalk that up to first episode pains.

      2 votes
      1. [3]
        Grendel
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        I'm glad to hear it clicked for people who haven't read that additional lore. Personally I don't think nt mind the slow pace, I tend to find some of the best stories start that way. My pacing...

        I'm glad to hear it clicked for people who haven't read that additional lore. Personally I don't think nt mind the slow pace, I tend to find some of the best stories start that way.

        My pacing concern is really about the "general audience", the average viewer who tends to struggle more with slow starts. My best example would be Blade Runner 2049. I was blown away by that movie, by its subtlety, by the cinematography and pretty much everything else.
        I was shocked when I discovered it was a box office bomb, but I was reminded that 9 Fast and Furious movies exist and it made more sense.

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        1. Eidolon
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          Great example. I felt similarly about that movie and was very confused when around 15-20 people walked out of the cinema (mostly youths). Several of my colleagues too did not enjoy it and the film...

          Blade Runner 2049

          Great example. I felt similarly about that movie and was very confused when around 15-20 people walked out of the cinema (mostly youths). Several of my colleagues too did not enjoy it and the film was a major negative factor for them in the run up to the first 'Dune'. Baffles me as I was so engrossed in that movie that it did not feel slow to me at all.

          I agree that the pacing was slow in The Rings of Power but it did feel necessary to set up the characters and how their storylines inter-relate.

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        2. knocklessmonster
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          For Rings of Power I basically am the general audience, I guess I should clarify that was the perspective I meant that from. Unless my enjoyment of the LOTR movies (even The Hobbit) disqualifies...

          For Rings of Power I basically am the general audience, I guess I should clarify that was the perspective I meant that from. Unless my enjoyment of the LOTR movies (even The Hobbit) disqualifies me, lol.

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    3. vegai
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      The weird part is that Amazon doesn't have rights to the Silmarillion or Unfinished Tales, which means that they cannot use the story lines from those books. Which, in my view, invalidates almost...

      The weird part is that Amazon doesn't have rights to the Silmarillion or Unfinished Tales, which means that they cannot use the story lines from those books. Which, in my view, invalidates almost the whole project. It's like making a movie about historical jews without being able to use any of the stories in the Bible.

  2. Loire
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    I'm just going to come out and say it: While there are valid criticisms of this show, which I will get into later, the vast majority of the criticisms are either the typical bullshit from that...

    I'm just going to come out and say it:

    While there are valid criticisms of this show, which I will get into later, the vast majority of the criticisms are either the typical bullshit from that group of terminally online people that review bomb whatever triggers them, and to a lesser extent, criticisms from people who grew up with Peter Jackson's trilogy and can't understand that the film's are not canon and don't dictate how the world should be presented.

    I grew up with the books and read them religiously, including the Silmarillion. While I watched the movies they never became the defining Middle Earth for me.
    If you don't read anything then this is my tldr:

    This feels like Middle Earth.

    I love the show. The world building is incredible. The visuals are suitably cinematic. I expected so much less from the acting, at least for the first season, and it's surprisingly good. Nothing noticeably bad about it. I think Galadriel's actress is even excellent. She regularly captures the sort of PTSD and obsession with revenge that a lesser actress could not convey, sometimes only with her eyes. Bear McCreary can do no wrong in my eyes and his soundtrack for this production is excellent.

    The sets are incredible and I can't tell what's physical and what's fake. Khazad-dûm was the most fully and perfectly realized incarnation of Middle Earth Dwarf culture I have ever experienced. It was beautiful but an entirely different beautiful than Lindon. They really conveyed the difference between Dwarf and Elvish culture. The Dwarfs themselves were presented not as the joke that they were in the Hobbit, but as a proper culture.

    And before I move on:

    Spoilers The moment between Elrond and Durin IV on the lift was incredible. We never *really* get to see how immortality seperates the Elves from the mortal races psychologically. The way in which it's revealed Durin had lived a whole life in the time since he's last seen Elrond and Elrond thought it was just a regular amount of time in between seeing friends was illuminating. The pain that Durin displayed that this supposed "friend" missed his wedding as well as the birth of his children, and *didn't even realize it* was a great touch by the writers.

    The human culture hasn't really been touched on yet so there's not much to see there. The Harfoot halflings annoy the hell out of me narratively but they also add to the incredible world building in this show. I'd rather not have halflings at all but at the very least they come across as a vivid culture.

    Now for the criticisms: while Galadriel and Arondir (ironically) look like Tolkien elves, the rest, and especially Arameyo's Elrond just look like humans with pointed ears. A lot more could have been done in the makeup and hair department to give these actors more striking and "Elf-like" features. I can get on board with Elves rocking a different hairstyle in the second age but to have Elrond and Celebrimbor's face look kind of... Haggard and run down just doesn't jive with the description.

    I understand this is a modern television show and a certain level of modern humour is necessary, but it may need to do better as to when to apply this humour. It wasn't egregious but there was a scene when one of the Sylvan Elf wardens was discussing Arondir's predilection for the human woman and how hookups between the races always ended in tragedy. This topic is absolutely not something jokey, and no Elf, no matter what the situation, would be making light of it, but in the show the character gave this exposition as if he was ribbing Arondir about it. It just didn't fit at all.

    As others have mentioned, perhaps the paceling isn't right for a general audience. I personally found no issues with the pace, but like others have mentioned I'm the type of viewer that loved BR2049 and genuinely doesn't understand how other people don't.

    Altogether, if the show manages to maintain this level of quality it's going to remain a must watch for me.

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  3. teaearlgraycold
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    I'm not a LoTR fan. But if the series gets better reception from casual viewers as time goes on I'll happily invest time getting up to speed.

    I'm not a LoTR fan. But if the series gets better reception from casual viewers as time goes on I'll happily invest time getting up to speed.

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  4. vegai
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    Based on E1, the start was a tad underwhelming and all over the place. But there's some promise that this could get good in the following episodes.

    Based on E1, the start was a tad underwhelming and all over the place. But there's some promise that this could get good in the following episodes.

    1 vote
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    JXM
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    Twenty five million people worldwide seems like it should be really low and not something to brag about? For a 5 season commitment and $1 billion investment, that doesn’t seem high at all. I am...

    Twenty five million people worldwide seems like it should be really low and not something to brag about? For a 5 season commitment and $1 billion investment, that doesn’t seem high at all.

    I am excited to watch it though.

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    1. knocklessmonster
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      The article mentions there isn't an appropriate sense of scale as Amazon never published numbers before, but that it it twice what House of the Dragon pulled, whoch was apparently one of the...

      The article mentions there isn't an appropriate sense of scale as Amazon never published numbers before, but that it it twice what House of the Dragon pulled, whoch was apparently one of the biggest launches.

      1 vote