I think the problem here is that streaming took off as the more convenient alternative to piracy--the fact that piracy is less popular today isn't that those technologies have been lost, but that...
I think the problem here is that streaming took off as the more convenient alternative to piracy--the fact that piracy is less popular today isn't that those technologies have been lost, but that for $10/mo or whatever, you didn't have to deal with all the hoop-jumping. The more you squeeze the streaming customer base, the more likely it is that there's a sea change back to the old ways.
Already happening for me. The pirate pipeline offers me better control (kids get 2 TV episodes, and no more) and nicer UI. I pay for services then pirate the content if its more convenient to use....
Already happening for me. The pirate pipeline offers me better control (kids get 2 TV episodes, and no more) and nicer UI.
I pay for services then pirate the content if its more convenient to use.
I download an educational youtube video, a kids show from Netflix, and a kids show from PBS Kids. Put in 1 VLC playlist. I now have 1 hour of content I have complete control over. No ads, no accidental over-watching.
A lot I used to watch on cable and network TV is not something I really need paid streaming services to provide. Things I only watched because they were there, white noise for when I didn't wanna...
A lot I used to watch on cable and network TV is not something I really need paid streaming services to provide. Things I only watched because they were there, white noise for when I didn't wanna concentrate on anything too demanding. Sports, reality shows, cooking shows, trash TV, etc. To me, these kinds of "white noise" are largely provided by YouTube nowadays. Netflix, HBO, etc, are only on when I wanna watch something I deliberate chose to watch. My YouTube subscription is by far the best deal I'm getting at the moment. Anything else I may cancel and resubscribe on a whim.
It's worth it solely for removing the ads. I understand a lot of people just uses a raspberry pi to block ads, but even a raspberry pi is an expensive proposition in my part of the world. And the...
It's worth it solely for removing the ads. I understand a lot of people just uses a raspberry pi to block ads, but even a raspberry pi is an expensive proposition in my part of the world. And the subscription, for which I'm not the one actually paying, works anywhere I am, as well as for all of the relatives in other households that are associated with the account.
I use the free ad-block plus extension and it works on all embedded media. There is even an options to cut in video ads out. Definitely suggest getting it.
I use the free ad-block plus extension and it works on all embedded media. There is even an options to cut in video ads out. Definitely suggest getting it.
Are you talking about a browser extension? Because I use Ublock on my computer, and it already blocks YouTube ads. But would something like that work on my Android YouTube app? My mother's iPhone?...
Are you talking about a browser extension? Because I use Ublock on my computer, and it already blocks YouTube ads. But would something like that work on my Android YouTube app? My mother's iPhone? My Xbox? Our LG and Samsung TVs?
For Android you'll probably be best off using a 3rd party app like NewPipe. For your TVs you are likely doomed to the ads. My Samsung TV's YouTube app uses DNS-over-HTTPS, so you can't even block...
For Android you'll probably be best off using a 3rd party app like NewPipe. For your TVs you are likely doomed to the ads. My Samsung TV's YouTube app uses DNS-over-HTTPS, so you can't even block ads at the router. You could buy a small computer for your TVs and then you'll be able to use an ad blocker. That's what I have set up for my parents.
SmartTubeNext is the one you want. It can be loaded on any TV that runs Android and supports .apk sideloading. It works perfectly on Android phones even though they aren't 'officially' supported....
SmartTubeNext is the one you want. It can be loaded on any TV that runs Android and supports .apk sideloading. It works perfectly on Android phones even though they aren't 'officially' supported. It will not work on Roku devices or any of the Android-wannabe walled gardens other manufacturers use.
Just install any file manager like Xplore from the Google Play store, open it, and browse to the STN .apk file over the network or on a USB key, then click to launch. It'll keep itself updated after installation. I recommend using the Beta version, it keeps further ahead of Google's attempts to block it than the stable branch does and gets new features more often.
Oh, and there's also a similar open source SmartTwitchTV client that does the same thing for Twitch - it even includes multi-stream support.
It's really about removing the ads from multiple households and devices for a price that feels fair. Additionally, if you care about that sort of thing, it's a way to remove ads without hurting...
It's really about removing the ads from multiple households and devices for a price that feels fair.
Additionally, if you care about that sort of thing, it's a way to remove ads without hurting the bottom line of content creators. In fact, the people I watch with my subscription get more money than they would get if I was watching ads on their videos.
This is it right here. If you don't want an ad-supported net, you need alternative revenue streams. I strip ads ruthlessly and unforgivingly, but I pay for YouTube.
This is it right here. If you don't want an ad-supported net, you need alternative revenue streams.
I strip ads ruthlessly and unforgivingly, but I pay for YouTube.
I'm kinda with @lou, but in a broader sense: We don't choose to watch TV, it's often there, we watch it, and maybe get hooked. We have so many more options that we either don't just sit and...
I'm kinda with @lou, but in a broader sense: We don't choose to watch TV, it's often there, we watch it, and maybe get hooked. We have so many more options that we either don't just sit and passively consume, or at least choose what we passively consume. Now I can buy services a la carte and not only get what I want, but everything they've made, even if the current streaming environment has faded from the golden era.
I think the problem here is that streaming took off as the more convenient alternative to piracy--the fact that piracy is less popular today isn't that those technologies have been lost, but that for $10/mo or whatever, you didn't have to deal with all the hoop-jumping. The more you squeeze the streaming customer base, the more likely it is that there's a sea change back to the old ways.
Already happening for me. The pirate pipeline offers me better control (kids get 2 TV episodes, and no more) and nicer UI.
I pay for services then pirate the content if its more convenient to use.
I download an educational youtube video, a kids show from Netflix, and a kids show from PBS Kids. Put in 1 VLC playlist. I now have 1 hour of content I have complete control over. No ads, no accidental over-watching.
A lot I used to watch on cable and network TV is not something I really need paid streaming services to provide. Things I only watched because they were there, white noise for when I didn't wanna concentrate on anything too demanding. Sports, reality shows, cooking shows, trash TV, etc. To me, these kinds of "white noise" are largely provided by YouTube nowadays. Netflix, HBO, etc, are only on when I wanna watch something I deliberate chose to watch. My YouTube subscription is by far the best deal I'm getting at the moment. Anything else I may cancel and resubscribe on a whim.
Is a YouTube sub really worth it? I remember Red was a thing and people laughed at it, is the current situation somehow better?
It's worth it solely for removing the ads. I understand a lot of people just uses a raspberry pi to block ads, but even a raspberry pi is an expensive proposition in my part of the world. And the subscription, for which I'm not the one actually paying, works anywhere I am, as well as for all of the relatives in other households that are associated with the account.
I use the free ad-block plus extension and it works on all embedded media. There is even an options to cut in video ads out. Definitely suggest getting it.
Are you talking about a browser extension? Because I use Ublock on my computer, and it already blocks YouTube ads. But would something like that work on my Android YouTube app? My mother's iPhone? My Xbox? Our LG and Samsung TVs?
For Android you'll probably be best off using a 3rd party app like NewPipe. For your TVs you are likely doomed to the ads. My Samsung TV's YouTube app uses DNS-over-HTTPS, so you can't even block ads at the router. You could buy a small computer for your TVs and then you'll be able to use an ad blocker. That's what I have set up for my parents.
Yeah... not gonna happen :P
Ah, it's a browser extension sorry. I exclusively watch Youtube on my laptop.
SmartTubeNext is the one you want. It can be loaded on any TV that runs Android and supports .apk sideloading. It works perfectly on Android phones even though they aren't 'officially' supported. It will not work on Roku devices or any of the Android-wannabe walled gardens other manufacturers use.
Just install any file manager like Xplore from the Google Play store, open it, and browse to the STN .apk file over the network or on a USB key, then click to launch. It'll keep itself updated after installation. I recommend using the Beta version, it keeps further ahead of Google's attempts to block it than the stable branch does and gets new features more often.
Oh, and there's also a similar open source SmartTwitchTV client that does the same thing for Twitch - it even includes multi-stream support.
I am also curious about this. I use NewPipe so I dont see any ads, but I'm curious if there is more I'm missing out on
It's really about removing the ads from multiple households and devices for a price that feels fair.
Additionally, if you care about that sort of thing, it's a way to remove ads without hurting the bottom line of content creators. In fact, the people I watch with my subscription get more money than they would get if I was watching ads on their videos.
This is it right here. If you don't want an ad-supported net, you need alternative revenue streams.
I strip ads ruthlessly and unforgivingly, but I pay for YouTube.
I'm kinda with @lou, but in a broader sense: We don't choose to watch TV, it's often there, we watch it, and maybe get hooked. We have so many more options that we either don't just sit and passively consume, or at least choose what we passively consume. Now I can buy services a la carte and not only get what I want, but everything they've made, even if the current streaming environment has faded from the golden era.