18 votes

Peacemaker season 2 opens by retconning Zack Snyder's Justice League out of existence

19 comments

  1. [19]
    EnigmaNL
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    Spoiler in the title :(

    Spoiler in the title :(

    10 votes
    1. [11]
      smithsonian
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      It's not really a spoiler and the title is overly dramatic by saying it was retconned "out of existence." The first season ended with an appearance from the Justice League—which we know doesn't...

      It's not really a spoiler and the title is overly dramatic by saying it was retconned "out of existence."

      The first season ended with an appearance from the Justice League—which we know doesn't exist yet in the new DCU—yet Peacemaker Season 2 exists in the new DCU, so there is a fundamental incompatibility that needs to be addressed to allow that to be true.

      I'll refrain from elaborating how they do it to avoid an actual spoiler, but I assure you that, when you watch it, you'll agree it was a non-event.

      10 votes
      1. smoontjes
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        Anything can be a spoiler if you didn't want to know. For me as well, basically everything about something I want to watch is a spoiler - regardless if the director talked about it in interviews,...

        Anything can be a spoiler if you didn't want to know. For me as well, basically everything about something I want to watch is a spoiler - regardless if the director talked about it in interviews, or if it exists in promotional material, etc. Even what actors are going to appear can be a spoiler. Everybody have different levels of what they'd rather not know and prefer I suppose.

        4 votes
      2. [9]
        EnigmaNL
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        It is a spoiler because I didn't want to know anything about season 2 before starting it, not even this.

        It is a spoiler because I didn't want to know anything about season 2 before starting it, not even this.

        4 votes
        1. [7]
          smithsonian
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          I understand that, but if we agree that a spoiler is any information that removes or reduces the surprise or impact of a story plot or moment, or otherwise undermines the ability of a person to...

          I understand that, but if we agree that a spoiler is any information that removes or reduces the surprise or impact of a story plot or moment, or otherwise undermines the ability of a person to enjoy consuming a given piece of media, then my point was to reassure you that this specific instance really isn't a spoiler—even though the article's headline makes it appear that way—because it won't negatively impact your ability to enjoy the episode.

          I can't really elaborate further without actually spoiling anything, so once you watch the episode, please come back and tell me whether or not I was correct.

          I am betting your actual reaction will be more along the lines of "Oh, that's it?" because that's how I would have reacted if I had my expectations set up by this headline before watching the episode.

          13 votes
          1. [6]
            EnigmaNL
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            It does, it tells me something I didn't want to know. I've seen the episode.

            because it won't negatively impact your ability to enjoy the episode.

            It does, it tells me something I didn't want to know. I've seen the episode.

            2 votes
            1. [5]
              Halio
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              I don't mean to be rude, but by your logic I could say that a post saying a show is good is a spoiler because I don't want to know anyone's opinion going into it. This is not a spoiler, it's such...

              I don't mean to be rude, but by your logic I could say that a post saying a show is good is a spoiler because I don't want to know anyone's opinion going into it.

              This is not a spoiler, it's such a minor thing and is obvious for a lot of people as it's common knowledge that Gunn has rebooted the DCU.

              14 votes
              1. [2]
                EnigmaNL
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                Saying if a show is good or not says nothing about the events that take place in the episode. This does.

                Saying if a show is good or not says nothing about the events that take place in the episode. This does.

                2 votes
                1. Halio
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                  It doesn't say anything about events that take place in the episode though, it's referring to the "previously on" segment.

                  It doesn't say anything about events that take place in the episode though, it's referring to the "previously on" segment.

                  5 votes
              2. [2]
                mayonuki
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                That is absolutely spoiler for some people. Have you never heard someone say “don’t tell me how it was, I want to see it first?” A good illustration of this is if you are interviewing someone for...

                That is absolutely spoiler for some people. Have you never heard someone say “don’t tell me how it was, I want to see it first?”

                A good illustration of this is if you are interviewing someone for a job in multiple rounds, it’s generally bad practice for early rounds to spoil later rounds by giving their impressions and thoughts before those later rounds are conducted.

                1 vote
                1. Halio
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                  If you're intentionally saying it to someone who says they don't want to know, I agree you're an asshole. But expecting posts on the internet to hide that kind of basic information is asinine.

                  If you're intentionally saying it to someone who says they don't want to know, I agree you're an asshole. But expecting posts on the internet to hide that kind of basic information is asinine.

                  10 votes
        2. legogizmo
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          Can it really be a spoiler if it happens during the last season recap? Like there is an intent by the creator that you should know this before starting the episode.

          Can it really be a spoiler if it happens during the last season recap?

          Like there is an intent by the creator that you should know this before starting the episode.

          9 votes
    2. [2]
      DeaconBlue
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      What would the ideal title be in this scenario? "Peacemaker season 2 spoiler"? Is this a case where it should be on the user to ignore tags that they don't want to see or discuss?

      What would the ideal title be in this scenario? "Peacemaker season 2 spoiler"?

      Is this a case where it should be on the user to ignore tags that they don't want to see or discuss?

      5 votes
      1. EnigmaNL
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        Didn't even know that was an option. Tildes doesn't even show tags by default.

        Didn't even know that was an option. Tildes doesn't even show tags by default.

    3. [2]
      chundissimo
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      Not that it makes it a ton better, but James Gunn has been openly talking about this retcon even before the season released.

      Not that it makes it a ton better, but James Gunn has been openly talking about this retcon even before the season released.

      4 votes
      1. EnigmaNL
        Link Parent
        I didn't know because I was avoiding spoilers as much as I could. This one was unavoidable.

        I didn't know because I was avoiding spoilers as much as I could. This one was unavoidable.

        4 votes
    4. [3]
      tomf
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      this isn't perfect, but I use this to fade off the titles marked with spoilers after ~20 characters CSS for Stylus .topic:has(.label-topic-tag-spoiler):not(:has(.topic-content-type.ask))...

      this isn't perfect, but I use this to fade off the titles marked with spoilers after ~20 characters

      CSS for Stylus
          .topic:has(.label-topic-tag-spoiler):not(:has(.topic-content-type.ask)) .topic-title a {
              display: inline-block;
              position: relative;
      
              -webkit-mask-image: linear-gradient( to right,
              black calc(20ch - 1ch),
              transparent 20ch);
              -webkit-mask-repeat: no-repeat;
              -webkit-mask-size: 100% 100%;
      
              mask-image: linear-gradient( to right,
              black calc(20ch - 1ch),
              transparent 20ch);
              mask-repeat: no-repeat;
              mask-size: 100% 100%;
          }
          .topic:has(.label-topic-tag-spoiler):not(:has(.topic-content-type.ask)) .topic-title a:hover {
              -webkit-mask-image: none;
              mask-image: none;
          }
      

      On hover it shows the whole thing. Not the best but handy if you hate spoilers :)

      1 vote
      1. [2]
        EnigmaNL
        Link Parent
        I just found out you can hide tags so I guess I'll be adding spoilers to that.

        I just found out you can hide tags so I guess I'll be adding spoilers to that.

        2 votes
        1. tomf
          Link Parent
          that will also hide the weekly threads for movies and tv, though, which is a bummer.

          that will also hide the weekly threads for movies and tv, though, which is a bummer.

          2 votes