I may still be able to quote the entire theme. It's so fun seeing them all so young. I really appreciate Sinclair's contemplative style and Ivanova will grow to be one of my absolute favorite...
I may still be able to quote the entire theme. It's so fun seeing them all so young. I really appreciate Sinclair's contemplative style and Ivanova will grow to be one of my absolute favorite characters.
It's very cool to see so many threads set up for future episodes here, not even A plot things, side comments made off handedly that mean so much later.
Edit: Also "Enhance" ( ´◡‿ゝ◡`)
Edit again as I got interrupted watching: I forgot how this episode resolved, though I knew the Raiders were involved somehow. But I also forgot Santiago's platform being mentioned this early. Now I want to know more about Marie Crane.
Did anyone else read the novels? The Psi Corps ones stuck with me but the others were a bit more sporadic (and selectively canon)
...i read the first batch of paperbacks, yes, although i can't remember much off the top of my head besides that they were terribly formulatic and perennially plagued by writers unfamiliar with...
...i read the first batch of paperbacks, yes, although i can't remember much off the top of my head besides that they were terribly formulatic and perennially plagued by writers unfamiliar with the source material simply phoning-in genre filler...
Interesting I had always thought they were really well done with the selective canon status JMS gave them. But it's been a long time at this point and maybe I'm being overly generous to them
Interesting I had always thought they were really well done with the selective canon status JMS gave them. But it's been a long time at this point and maybe I'm being overly generous to them
...i don't think they were universally awful, but definitely produced on-the-cheap and for the most part their pulp heritage shows through...the whole selective-canon thing was mostly JMS being...
...i don't think they were universally awful, but definitely produced on-the-cheap and for the most part their pulp heritage shows through...the whole selective-canon thing was mostly JMS being JMS, although as he became more involved in production of the later books i think they grew a measure of editorial veracity alongside reputable authorship...
...holy exposition, kosh!.. ...i haven't watched this episode in over twenty years but tonight it feels like thirty: how evocative is christopher franke's score!..how sumptuous is peter jurasik's...
...holy exposition, kosh!..
...i haven't watched this episode in over twenty years but tonight it feels like thirty: how evocative is christopher franke's score!..how sumptuous is peter jurasik's performance!..how thick is claudia christian's hair!..
...i'm sure i'll have more thoughts this weekend after a full night's sleep but at first blush, so many little teases woven throughout; loved seeing the grand diplomatic stage of the advisory council + league of non-aligned worlds; still don't feel character swaps after the pilot constitute a spoiler; should be labelled S1E01; what a fantastic sortie of fighters sallying-out to meet the threat of the week; costume designs are tremendously emotive; kosh's voice is so much more lush than my memory carries it and did you know that ardwright chamberlain was also a writer for robotech, true fact!..
...so, i used to head our university babylon 5 group (before moderating usenet) and besides facilitating tape-trading and printed VHS sleeves amongst fans, we also screened an episode each week on the big library projection-screen, which after blowing up the youtube presentation to properly fill my 4:3 ipad display just a couple inches from my face, i had total flashbacks of similarly-immersive presentation consuming my field of view, albeit at much-greater resolution than my staid S-video DVD collection ever offered...
(might be a little-bit drunk at the moment; best way to enjoy vintage video)
aka B5 pilot frfr A question I'd like to bring up is do we want topics for individual episodes, or do we want to break them into monthly or seasonal topics with individual threads for each...
aka B5 pilot frfr
A question I'd like to bring up is do we want topics for individual episodes, or do we want to break them into monthly or seasonal topics with individual threads for each episode? (Or just stuff them in TV club?)
He's never been considered a congenial guy, but iirc JMS got him to seek help for his MH leading to him being diagnosed with bipolar. So probably he was pretty consistent.
He's never been considered a congenial guy, but iirc JMS got him to seek help for his MH leading to him being diagnosed with bipolar.
He's got this great interview where he describes the time that he, L Rob Hubbard and another guy were sitting around and thought it would be a lark to invent a religion then see how far they could...
He's got this great interview where he describes the time that he, L Rob Hubbard and another guy were sitting around and thought it would be a lark to invent a religion then see how far they could take it.
I'd always heard Heinlein. I suspect it's a bit of a myth at this point. Ellison said that Hubbard had said the real money was in religion but who was present and whether there was a bet or...
I'd always heard Heinlein. I suspect it's a bit of a myth at this point.
Ellison said that Hubbard had said the real money was in religion but who was present and whether there was a bet or something about actually doing it is all a bit mythologized
While there is a plot that both starts and wraps up - sort of, it is still very evident that everything is part of a greater worldbuilding. It properly feels like we are just thrown into the...
While there is a plot that both starts and wraps up - sort of, it is still very evident that everything is part of a greater worldbuilding. It properly feels like we are just thrown into the middle of things, with plenty of alliances, previous wars and people with interesting back stories we get glimpses off. The political aspects is what really gets established here, with the conflict between orders from Earth and the difficult diplomatic problems needing to be dealt with far away from home. It has been so many years that I can't remember many specifics, but it all feels very familiar.
I love the "oh noooo I left before I could give you orders, oops" Mixed with several twists that make that decision less relevant, it still tells you who Sinclair is.
I love the "oh noooo I left before I could give you orders, oops"
Mixed with several twists that make that decision less relevant, it still tells you who Sinclair is.
I'm greatly enjoying the worldbuilding. And I really hope we get to see Londo and G'kar strangle each other to death in the epilogue of the final episode.
I'm greatly enjoying the worldbuilding.
And I really hope we get to see Londo and G'kar strangle each other to death in the epilogue of the final episode.
Fun episode with good worldbuilding. G'kar really is a grade A asshole, isn't he. I feel like the line delivery is better in this episode than in the first one. My guess would be they had more...
Fun episode with good worldbuilding. G'kar really is a grade A asshole, isn't he.
I feel like the line delivery is better in this episode than in the first one. My guess would be they had more time for shooting so they could do more takes and use the best ones.
The CGI space fight scene was surprisingly cool.
I think I prefer the Minbari makeup the way it was in the first episode. Delenn looked a lot more alien in that one.
Londo has the best haircut in television history. Post your dissenting opinions in the replies. If there are better haircuts out there, I want to see them.
Issue is that Clipzone hasn’t put up the full episode, rather they mislabeled a clip as the full episode. https://youtu.be/5FkQRtSbmiA I was waiting for that to be fixed, but I could post the...
Issue is that Clipzone hasn’t put up the full episode, rather they mislabeled a clip as the full episode.
Episode 4 has not been put up yet. I put one up for 3, and I’ll ask for the link to be replaced if it is fixed. https://tildes.net/~tv/1t3w/babylon_5_s01e03_soul_hunter_episode_discussion
Episode 4 has not been put up yet. I put one up for 3, and I’ll ask for the link to be replaced if it is fixed.
I may still be able to quote the entire theme. It's so fun seeing them all so young. I really appreciate Sinclair's contemplative style and Ivanova will grow to be one of my absolute favorite characters.
It's very cool to see so many threads set up for future episodes here, not even A plot things, side comments made off handedly that mean so much later.
Edit: Also "Enhance" ( ´◡‿ゝ◡`)
Edit again as I got interrupted watching: I forgot how this episode resolved, though I knew the Raiders were involved somehow. But I also forgot Santiago's platform being mentioned this early. Now I want to know more about Marie Crane.
Did anyone else read the novels? The Psi Corps ones stuck with me but the others were a bit more sporadic (and selectively canon)
...i read the first batch of paperbacks, yes, although i can't remember much off the top of my head besides that they were terribly formulatic and perennially plagued by writers unfamiliar with the source material simply phoning-in genre filler...
Interesting I had always thought they were really well done with the selective canon status JMS gave them. But it's been a long time at this point and maybe I'm being overly generous to them
...i don't think they were universally awful, but definitely produced on-the-cheap and for the most part their pulp heritage shows through...the whole selective-canon thing was mostly JMS being JMS, although as he became more involved in production of the later books i think they grew a measure of editorial veracity alongside reputable authorship...
...holy exposition, kosh!..
...i haven't watched this episode in over twenty years but tonight it feels like thirty: how evocative is christopher franke's score!..how sumptuous is peter jurasik's performance!..how thick is claudia christian's hair!..
...i'm sure i'll have more thoughts this weekend after a full night's sleep but at first blush, so many little teases woven throughout; loved seeing the grand diplomatic stage of the advisory council + league of non-aligned worlds; still don't feel character swaps after the pilot constitute a spoiler; should be labelled S1E01; what a fantastic sortie of fighters sallying-out to meet the threat of the week; costume designs are tremendously emotive; kosh's voice is so much more lush than my memory carries it and did you know that ardwright chamberlain was also a writer for robotech, true fact!..
...so, i used to head our university babylon 5 group (before moderating usenet) and besides facilitating tape-trading and printed VHS sleeves amongst fans, we also screened an episode each week on the big library projection-screen, which after blowing up the youtube presentation to properly fill my 4:3 ipad display just a couple inches from my face, i had total flashbacks of similarly-immersive presentation consuming my field of view, albeit at much-greater resolution than my staid S-video DVD collection ever offered...
(might be a little-bit drunk at the moment; best way to enjoy vintage video)
aka B5 pilot frfr
A question I'd like to bring up is do we want topics for individual episodes, or do we want to break them into monthly or seasonal topics with individual threads for each episode? (Or just stuff them in TV club?)
...i think individual topics work best so folks can pick through them at their own pace, especially if we're only doing one episode per week...
Did Harlan Ellison become an old crank during his tenure on the series or was he always a turd?
He's never been considered a congenial guy, but iirc JMS got him to seek help for his MH leading to him being diagnosed with bipolar.
So probably he was pretty consistent.
Didn't know it was a MH thing. I have No Mouth and I Must Scream now has autobiographical undertones.
Oh I mean I'm not gonna say he wasn't also an asshole. Both things can be true.
He's got this great interview where he describes the time that he, L Rob Hubbard and another guy were sitting around and thought it would be a lark to invent a religion then see how far they could take it.
frank herbert
I'd always heard Heinlein. I suspect it's a bit of a myth at this point.
Ellison said that Hubbard had said the real money was in religion but who was present and whether there was a bet or something about actually doing it is all a bit mythologized
While there is a plot that both starts and wraps up - sort of, it is still very evident that everything is part of a greater worldbuilding. It properly feels like we are just thrown into the middle of things, with plenty of alliances, previous wars and people with interesting back stories we get glimpses off. The political aspects is what really gets established here, with the conflict between orders from Earth and the difficult diplomatic problems needing to be dealt with far away from home. It has been so many years that I can't remember many specifics, but it all feels very familiar.
I love the "oh noooo I left before I could give you orders, oops"
Mixed with several twists that make that decision less relevant, it still tells you who Sinclair is.
Yeah that strategy seems to be a stable among spacefaring commanding officers.
But on B5
I'm greatly enjoying the worldbuilding.
And I really hope we get to see Londo and G'kar strangle each other to death in the epilogue of the final episode.
Fun episode with good worldbuilding. G'kar really is a grade A asshole, isn't he.
I feel like the line delivery is better in this episode than in the first one. My guess would be they had more time for shooting so they could do more takes and use the best ones.
The CGI space fight scene was surprisingly cool.
I think I prefer the Minbari makeup the way it was in the first episode. Delenn looked a lot more alien in that one.
Londo has the best haircut in television history. Post your dissenting opinions in the replies. If there are better haircuts out there, I want to see them.
...in the pilot, of course; they toned it down a bit for the ongoing series...
Someone want to create the discussion threat for episode 3? I's do it myself, if it wasn't for the whole region lock thing.
Issue is that Clipzone hasn’t put up the full episode, rather they mislabeled a clip as the full episode.
https://youtu.be/5FkQRtSbmiA
I was waiting for that to be fixed, but I could post the thread without an episode or a link to the Roku Channel copy.
Thanks for the update! Have they put up episode 4 yet? If so, it may be unlikely that they'll fix episode 3.
Episode 4 has not been put up yet. I put one up for 3, and I’ll ask for the link to be replaced if it is fixed.
https://tildes.net/~tv/1t3w/babylon_5_s01e03_soul_hunter_episode_discussion