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Babylon 5 S01E13: "Signs and Portents" - Episode Discussion

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  1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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    "What do you want?" Here we go folks. We have raiders, we have centauri and we have Signs and Portents! Fun fact: Narn are marsupials and G'kar has a pouch! More later.

    "What do you want?"

    Here we go folks. We have raiders, we have centauri and we have Signs and Portents!

    Fun fact: Narn are marsupials and G'kar has a pouch!

    More later.

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    Nemoder
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    This really felt like the first shift in the show from character background to a bigger story with a bunch of unanswered questions and new power player(s).

    This really felt like the first shift in the show from character background to a bigger story with a bunch of unanswered questions and new power player(s).

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    1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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      JMS has said they had to slowly sneak the overarching plot into the first season because the "standalone" style episodes were the norm. And you had to get the audience and the network on board.

      JMS has said they had to slowly sneak the overarching plot into the first season because the "standalone" style episodes were the norm. And you had to get the audience and the network on board.

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    Crespyl
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    I can see why this episode is so well liked. It's got a good mix of humor (I loved the bit at the elevator), excitement, and spooky implications for the future. I think this is about the point I...

    I can see why this episode is so well liked. It's got a good mix of humor (I loved the bit at the elevator), excitement, and spooky implications for the future.

    I think this is about the point I was at when Netflix dropped the series, so from here out is new material for me. I'm having a lot of fun with the series! :)

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    1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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      Ooh you're in for a fun ride. Mr Morden is a fantastic tease of an antagonist - what is his deal? Why was he dodging Kosh? What happened to Kosh's suit? And we now know why the raiders were so...

      Ooh you're in for a fun ride.

      Mr Morden is a fantastic tease of an antagonist - what is his deal? Why was he dodging Kosh? What happened to Kosh's suit?

      And we now know why the raiders were so uniform and well funded... The past tense being quite relevant.

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    KapteinB
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    Happy to learn more about the raiders. But as we get some questions answered, new ones are raised. Telepaths are well established by now. Is this the first time we see someone predicting the...

    Happy to learn more about the raiders. But as we get some questions answered, new ones are raised.

    Telepaths are well established by now. Is this the first time we see someone predicting the future and making prophesies? As she says at the end, the future is always changing, so I guess it's not that things are fate-destined, but more if you know the state of every particle in the universe you can calculate the future. Change the state, and you change the future.

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    1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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      I believe we had heard about Centauri having prophetic dreams of their death in an earlier episode. It's not clear if this level (in this episode) of precognition is a uniquely Centauri trait, and...

      I believe we had heard about Centauri having prophetic dreams of their death in an earlier episode. It's not clear if this level (in this episode) of precognition is a uniquely Centauri trait, and it seems some take it less seriously than others. I know there's mention of other prophecies in the series but I don't recall what types of prophets they are if that distinction makes sense. But yes, the future is not certain.