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Avatar: Seven Havens | Official trailer

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  1. [7]
    zoroa
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    I remember really disliking the art direction in the key art they released a few months ago. None of those feelings returned watching this trailer, and I'm fully onboard with how the show looks. I...

    I remember really disliking the art direction in the key art they released a few months ago.

    None of those feelings returned watching this trailer, and I'm fully onboard with how the show looks. I can't tell if it's an issue with my computer, but the animation looked a little choppy at times. Especially in comparison to the new Avatar movie, or even to Korra from 14 (!!) years ago. But that's easily forgotten if the story is good.

    I'm not sure how I feel about the whole "hating the avatar" thing (even if I do agree that Korra was pretty meh). The feelings of hope and reverence the Avatar inspired in the first show were often really effective character building moments, since they either highlighted something about the character or about the Avatar that inspired the feelings in the first place. Unclear if I should put much faith in the showrunners sticking the landing, so I don't know that I'll be buying a Paramount subscription to find out.

    9 votes
    1. Grzmot
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      I was meh on the earlier trailers mostly because they focused on the super young avatar twins. I get that the ATLA was a kid's show but for what they do in that show they are extremely young even...

      I was meh on the earlier trailers mostly because they focused on the super young avatar twins. I get that the ATLA was a kid's show but for what they do in that show they are extremely young even for YA. I liked that Korra tried to grow up with the audience. The characters were older, the issues were more complex. I found the whole bender/non-bender issue very interesting. I think it got hampered a lot by studio interference, but S3 and S4 were very good.

      So to see a return to what seem to be not even 10 year olds, though it's hard pinpoint their actual age given the artstyle, had me worried, because likely the writing would return to a more simplistic style as well. Now it's obvious that they're doing a big brother dynamic which has my hopes up, even though it's obvious from the get-go that the big reveal of the show will be that Korra wasn't evil and likely didn't cause the cataclysm.

      I also really enjoyed the vibe of S1 Korra in particular, the 1920s jazz and big band soundtrack did a ton to set the mood, but even the show gave up on that with from S2 onwards, so I wasn't expecting a return to that anyhow.

      4 votes
    2. Grayscail
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      I really doubt the hating Korra thing is gonna stick. I would kinda be stoked if it did, but it seems very likely that its going to be a situation where the rest of the world thinks she was bad...

      I really doubt the hating Korra thing is gonna stick. I would kinda be stoked if it did, but it seems very likely that its going to be a situation where the rest of the world thinks she was bad but the protagonists find out she is being hated in unfairly and whatever bad thing she did was either justified or an impossible choice with no right answer.

      3 votes
    3. [3]
      Carrow
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      The more behind the scenes I learn about ATLA and Korra, the less I trust Bryan/Mike. We'll see what writers they've got, that'll be a deciding factor for me. I do quite like some of the stylistic...

      The more behind the scenes I learn about ATLA and Korra, the less I trust Bryan/Mike. We'll see what writers they've got, that'll be a deciding factor for me. I do quite like some of the stylistic visuals they're going for, though worry it will be a kid's show first and foremost.

      I'm hoping that the whole Avatar hate thing is going to be like how folks thought the Avatar abandoned the world when Aang was frozen for 100 yrs, and that it'll be something like the only reason there is any world left is because of her efforts and the populace misconstrued it. But we really wanted Korra to just have her happily ever after with Asami so this sucks no matter which way we slice it.

      3 votes
      1. [2]
        zoroa
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        Could you expand on this. I'd always been under the vague impression that Nickelodeon was the big bad in the story, given how they barely gave Korra airtime and largely abandoned one of their most...

        The more behind the scenes I learn about ATLA and Korra, the less I trust Bryan/Mike.

        Could you expand on this.

        I'd always been under the vague impression that Nickelodeon was the big bad in the story, given how they barely gave Korra airtime and largely abandoned one of their most enduring IP for almost 20 years.

        But I've also never looked into to it, and am interested if there's a story to tell.

        2 votes
        1. Carrow
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          I don't think I have any explicit Bryan/Mike bad guys stories to tell, someone else might, though Nickelodeon does deserve that rap. I hear folks talk about their favorite episodes, the ones that...

          I don't think I have any explicit Bryan/Mike bad guys stories to tell, someone else might, though Nickelodeon does deserve that rap.

          I hear folks talk about their favorite episodes, the ones that make it special, and they're usually written and directed by not-them. ATLA had a bigger writing team and Korra didn't get a woman writer until S03. I don't know if there was a falling out with Aaron Ehasz or what, but he wasn't on Korra and his contributions to ATLA seem sidelined relative to Bryan/Mike since he wasn't a creator, "just" EP and writer.

          So yeah more like I credit the success of the Avatar series to the folks they've worked with more than the creators themselves.

          2 votes
    4. updawg
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      Paramount also has the one of the worst streaming apps and the streaming video quality is always crap, so it's not worth any money really. Plus with the scummy ownership, there's no reason to give...

      Paramount also has the one of the worst streaming apps and the streaming video quality is always crap, so it's not worth any money really. Plus with the scummy ownership, there's no reason to give them any money.

      1 vote
  2. puhtahtoe
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    As a Wheel of Time fan I'm kind of a sucker for a "the last incarnation of the hero figure caused an apocalypse and now everyone fears the appearance of the next incarnation" story. Definitely...

    As a Wheel of Time fan I'm kind of a sucker for a "the last incarnation of the hero figure caused an apocalypse and now everyone fears the appearance of the next incarnation" story.

    Definitely looking forward to this.

    5 votes
  3. TheRTV
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    I love ATLA and LoK, but the new stuff I'm lukewarm on at best. I hate that they're going the dystopia future, Mad Max route. Seems very lazy from a world building standpoint. I'd rather see the...

    I love ATLA and LoK, but the new stuff I'm lukewarm on at best.

    I hate that they're going the dystopia future, Mad Max route. Seems very lazy from a world building standpoint. I'd rather see the world progress technologically/politically and how bending evolved around that. Benders and the Avatar in a world with modern or even future tech would be way more interesting to me.

    I may be in the minority on that. But I'm not excited to see more young kids going through regular kid stuff, but they have powers and the world is going to break without them again. Which is an oversimplification, but probably not far off. It just feels like they're trying to go back to the roots without redoing ATLA. Almost like Dragon Ball GT.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm going to give this show as fair of a shot as I can. I just don't have my hopes up

    5 votes
  4. [3]
    Paul85
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    Seven Heavens was a TV show in the 90s about a big family and their experiences. I was a young kid but I recall it was wholesome, feel good type of show. It played before Married With Children,...

    Seven Heavens was a TV show in the 90s about a big family and their experiences. I was a young kid but I recall it was wholesome, feel good type of show. It played before Married With Children, which was another wholesome TV show about a small family and the struggles of our hero, Al Bundy, in his saga to survive daily middle class life. I don’t know why my parents kept sending me to bed for that one tho. Was it not equally wholesome?

    1 vote
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      DeepThought
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      Are you talking about seventh heaven, the very Christian family show? If so, you should look up what happened to the actor that played the father

      Are you talking about seventh heaven, the very Christian family show? If so, you should look up what happened to the actor that played the father

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      1. Paul85
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        Oh damn! Not so wholesome after all, is it? Yikes!

        Oh damn! Not so wholesome after all, is it? Yikes!

        1 vote