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The Mandalorian | S02E07: The Believer

To move against the Empire, the Mandalorian needs the help of an old enemy.


S2 E1 Discussion - https://tild.es/t1u

S2 E5 Discussion - https://tild.es/tk5

S2 E6 Discussion - https://tild.es/tq5

Season 1 Discussions - https://tild.es/kgu

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  1. [8]
    balooga
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    I don't understand why Mayfield took off his helmet in the first place, and moreover never put it back on. If you're infiltrating an enemy base in disguise, your identity is the last thing you...

    I don't understand why Mayfield took off his helmet in the first place, and moreover never put it back on. If you're infiltrating an enemy base in disguise, your identity is the last thing you should be cavalier about. So much of the plot of this episode was the direct consequence of that stupid decision.

    I couldn't help but wonder if it was contractually obligated "face time" for Bill Burr, or some sort of narrative shortcut to make it easier to tell which character was talking when he and Mando were walking around in identical suits. Regardless, it felt like a huge plot hole to me.

    5 votes
    1. [3]
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      1. [2]
        wycy
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        So much this. It basically ruined the episode for me. I literally could not stop thinking about how dumb it was that he didn't just put the jetpack back on rather than run up a mountain by foot.

        As opposed to Mando taking off his jet pack, and only his jet pack, in the previous episode and never thinking to put it back on, so that he would be unable to get to Grogu in time?

        So much this. It basically ruined the episode for me. I literally could not stop thinking about how dumb it was that he didn't just put the jetpack back on rather than run up a mountain by foot.

        6 votes
        1. Omnicrola
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          Especially when we've established in previous episodes that he can control the jetpack remotely. I think the odds that our constantly-in-sticky-situations hero doesn't have some sort of "fly back...

          Especially when we've established in previous episodes that he can control the jetpack remotely. I think the odds that our constantly-in-sticky-situations hero doesn't have some sort of "fly back to me" hotkey on that fancy PipBoy are ..... low.

          4 votes
    2. [2]
      tomf
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      Even if he kept it on, he'd have to take it off to use the terminal, so the threat of being recognized was still relatively the same. But yeah, he should have had it on the rest of the time.

      Even if he kept it on, he'd have to take it off to use the terminal, so the threat of being recognized was still relatively the same. But yeah, he should have had it on the rest of the time.

      3 votes
      1. Thrabalen
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        He wanted to be seen. To be recognized. He couldn't hide from his demons if they were laid bare.

        He wanted to be seen. To be recognized. He couldn't hide from his demons if they were laid bare.

        3 votes
    3. [3]
      dubteedub
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      Yeah I agree and figured it was something in his contract that requires his face to be visible. I know that is pretty common in a lot of superhero movies/shows.

      Yeah I agree and figured it was something in his contract that requires his face to be visible. I know that is pretty common in a lot of superhero movies/shows.

      1 vote
      1. [2]
        BlindCarpenter
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        i think its more from the producers, it makes for a pretty bland scene if its just 2 stormtroopers talking back and forth, and hard to discern which one is talking etc. Just like in every police...

        i think its more from the producers, it makes for a pretty bland scene if its just 2 stormtroopers talking back and forth, and hard to discern which one is talking etc. Just like in every police show where swat shows up, the main character is wearing absolutely no head protection

        2 votes
        1. dubteedub
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          Yeah, that is a fair point

          Yeah, that is a fair point

  2. dubteedub
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    I was a bit wary seeing more of the Bill Burr character going in here, but I enjoyed this episode. I thought the additional backstory on Empire was interesting and helped flesh out just how...

    I was a bit wary seeing more of the Bill Burr character going in here, but I enjoyed this episode. I thought the additional backstory on Empire was interesting and helped flesh out just how diehard some of these guys are that are in the Imperial Remnant.

    I also thought it was some solid character growth and payoff from Mando on finally taking off his helmet. I know it had been alluded to all season starting from the Marshall, Bo-Katan, and even Boba Fett so it was a nice seeing that happen and him growing beyond his limited worldview.

    I am interested to see how this last episode works out with the little Mando gang assaulting an entire Imperial cruiser.

    3 votes
  3. [2]
    Sand
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    So did anything interesting happen in those 3 skipped episodes? I haven't seen them yet.

    S2 E1 Discussion - https://tild.es/t1u
    S2 E5 Discussion - https://tild.es/tk5
    S2 E5 Discussion - https://tild.es/tq5

    So did anything interesting happen in those 3 skipped episodes? I haven't seen them yet.

    1. dubteedub
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      Yeah, they were decent eps, particularly S2 E4 for me. I just didn't post a discussion for them as I was busy at the time and figured someone else might step in. #Spoilers Below# S2 E2 - The...

      Yeah, they were decent eps, particularly S2 E4 for me. I just didn't post a discussion for them as I was busy at the time and figured someone else might step in.

      #Spoilers Below#

      S2 E2 - The Passenger. The Mandalorian must ferry a passenger with precious cargo on a risky journey.

      I thought this was an ep with some cool visuals (those spiders freaked me out) and liked the introduction of the Rebel alliance folks patrolling the outer rim, but ultimately it didn't really advance the plot or any of the characters in a meaningful way.

      S2 E3 - The Heiress. The Mandalorian braves high seas and meets unexpected allies.

      I loved this episode and really liked the introduction of Bo-Katan and her crew from Clone Wars. It was really interesting seeing Mando learn more about Mandalorian culture and his community's particular culty background.

      S2 E4 - The Siege The Mandalorian rejoins old allies for a new mission.

      This one was also alright for me. Nothing really too exciting that I remember other than just a little invasion of a imperial base.

      1 vote
  4. [5]
    cfabbro
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    A bit offtopic, but I can't wait for the season to finish so I can finally watch it and then join in on these episode discussion topics. It's been killing me holding off watching it, and trying to...

    A bit offtopic, but I can't wait for the season to finish so I can finally watch it and then join in on these episode discussion topics. It's been killing me holding off watching it, and trying to not read these so as to avoid spoilers. :P

    2 votes
    1. [4]
      BlindCarpenter
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      Why aren’t you watching it?

      Why aren’t you watching it?

      1 vote
      1. [3]
        cfabbro
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        I hate waiting a week in between episodes, because I often forget what happened in previous episodes when I watch shows that way, especially when I have lots of other things on the go. So I...

        I hate waiting a week in between episodes, because I often forget what happened in previous episodes when I watch shows that way, especially when I have lots of other things on the go. So I generally prefer to wait until seasons are complete and then binge them at my convenience instead.

        3 votes
        1. [2]
          streblo
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          I have to say I love the episodic format as a break from binge-watching. If I'm really into a series and the whole season is up I will watch one or two a night until I'm done. I don't have the...

          I have to say I love the episodic format as a break from binge-watching.

          If I'm really into a series and the whole season is up I will watch one or two a night until I'm done. I don't have the willpower to enjoy the nice Friday evening treat I would otherwise enjoy with an episodic release. But I do like the freedom of binge-watching as well, it just depends on the show.

          I think publishers are using the episodic release more often these days because a strong show reaches a larger cultural zeitgeist this way, but I'm not sure.

          5 votes
          1. cfabbro
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            The cynic in me says, at least for streaming services, it's more likely because it forces people to subscribe for several months if they want to watch the show as it comes out.

            publishers are using the episodic release more often these days because a strong show reaches a larger cultural zeitgeist this way

            The cynic in me says, at least for streaming services, it's more likely because it forces people to subscribe for several months if they want to watch the show as it comes out.

            2 votes