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Comment on Sora gives deepfakes 'a publicist and a distribution deal.' It could change the internet. in ~tech
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Comment on Denmark plans social media ban for under-15s – PM Mette Frederiksen links social media use to anxiety, depression and lack of concentration in ~tech
DefinitelyNotAFae We had Usenet and forums before more modern social media, we have discord now. IMO it was more the news coverage of things like Myspace and TheFacebook and the accessibility of them that led to...We had Usenet and forums before more modern social media, we have discord now. IMO it was more the news coverage of things like Myspace and TheFacebook and the accessibility of them that led to them blowing up. Something would have shown up, it's just a matter of "what". Once you have the Internet speeds to share pics you want to share them. Maybe in that AU we're all on Flick(e?)r
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Comment on Sora gives deepfakes 'a publicist and a distribution deal.' It could change the internet. in ~tech
DefinitelyNotAFae Hey we have to dominate the Torment Nexus market! We're not just in this for participation.Hey we have to dominate the Torment Nexus market! We're not just in this for participation.
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Comment on Sora gives deepfakes 'a publicist and a distribution deal.' It could change the internet. in ~tech
DefinitelyNotAFae The Tiktok algorithm is fine* but this is all about deep fakes on Sora. It's on an entirely different level than the videos that have been on Tiktok so far though they'll certainly end up there....The Tiktok algorithm is fine* but this is all about deep fakes on Sora. It's on an entirely different level than the videos that have been on Tiktok so far though they'll certainly end up there. Not sure the connection you're making to the article.
*Not drastically changed, works the same for me, love it or hate it.
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Comment on TV Tuesdays Free Talk in ~tv
DefinitelyNotAFae It's the benefit of the short seasons on British show and, I think, part of how British film actors see television work (and theatre) as worthy of their time.It's the benefit of the short seasons on British show and, I think, part of how British film actors see television work (and theatre) as worthy of their time.
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Comment on Tech companies are finding out everything is political in ~tech
DefinitelyNotAFae I mean again if the Community Guidelines don't matter then they shouldn't put following them into their Terms of Service and shouldn't claim to follow them? I doubt someone's account would be left...I mean again if the Community Guidelines don't matter then they shouldn't put following them into their Terms of Service and shouldn't claim to follow them? I doubt someone's account would be left unbanned in other situations as I said before just because the activity was coordinated off site.
As I said, I don't agree that the game of "technically" works here. I understand you do. But I maintain it's not unreasonable to interpret the other way and to genuinely want and expect the Bluesky site to follow their own written policies. Even if they're wrong about that, where this started was you essentially calling it pointless or performative. To many people the principle of a thing is worth something even if you personally don't think it's worthwhile. I just think ignoring that is missing why people are genuinely upset. Especially when they can explicitly document the harassment occuring after he shares their posts.
I mean, this gets into the philosophy of what BlueSky is. BlueSky wasn't made, in the end, with the intention to be the liberal, opinionated version of Twitter post-Elon. It was made to be a platform where users make their own social media "masks" - users make their algorithm, users make their moderation.
I dont understand the connection between the part of my comment you replied to. My point there wasn't about what political angle the service has, but that harassment happens even with the moderation lists and harassment is allegedly against their rules. That isn't about being "liberal"
They both use an algorithm for the Discover Feed and have a moderation policy.
While communities can build their own moderation tools, we remain responsible for setting and enforcing baseline rules that require careful judgment.
The users in question believe Bluesky isn't living up to that. Whether they're right or wrong is debatable. I tend to agree but also just have asshats moderated out. Regardless it's worth acknowledging this is the perspective of many actual people not just "be more leftist yell"
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Comment on Tech companies are finding out everything is political in ~tech
DefinitelyNotAFae This line or argument means that banning anyone is functionally pointless, but that also means the Community Guidelines (not referring to the ToS) is fundamentally pointless. And maybe,...This line or argument means that banning anyone is functionally pointless, but that also means the Community Guidelines (not referring to the ToS) is fundamentally pointless. And maybe, ultimately, it is. But it's not weird to be pissed off that a) the company didn't mean what they said when they promised no harassment, and b) that other people have been banned for bullshit.
So sure if the rules are made up and the points don't matter, banning scammers and trolls and spammers and bots and transphobes alike is pointless. But again my point is that the users are operating on the idea that there are Guidelines and they want them in place and enforced. You're saying what they want is pointless, I'm saying that the users feel lied by Bluesky either way and left out to dry when they get harassed.
Also folks who don't use those lists can still see posts and those people aren't typically on the block/mute lists themselves so moderation alone doesn't kill the possibility of harassment in general either regardless of what this specific guy does where.
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Comment on Tech companies are finding out everything is political in ~tech
DefinitelyNotAFae Yeah I don't really have a tolerance for the whole "loophole" thing as a way to avoid responsibility. Being technically innocent may work in court or in a fae contract but a website doesn't have...Yeah I don't really have a tolerance for the whole "loophole" thing as a way to avoid responsibility. Being technically innocent may work in court or in a fae contract but a website doesn't have to operate on those same standards. If anything it requires a good amount of "know it when you see it"
For example, it appears his account has been flagged with a content warning. He's clearly aware of what he's doing to the point of trolling, he recently made a post caps locking the word "WAFFLES", where someone quotes him and he mocks them for calling it a dogwhistle, as if it wasn't intentional. That may just make him a shitty person but IMO the "he just posts it, he doesn't tell them to go harass them is not different from when JKR or Trump does similar things other than by scale.
They know what their audience will do,.they don't have to explicitly encourage the mob.
Maybe it happening off the site is enough, but I doubt that if someone coordinated a DDOS attack or the doing and swatting of admins in discord that, regardless of criminal penalties, Bluesky would leave that person's account active. Obviously this is a lot more severe but the question is whether the location of the behavior matters in relation to the Bluesky account.
Maybe for you this all adds up to enough technically that you think banning him is performative only but my point is mostly that the folks clamoring for it genuinely see it as a failure to enforce community guidelines. And in a world where it's no longer the norm to consider such things even against the guidelines on major social media sites, it doesn't shock me that particularly marginalized communities are pissed when they feel those standards aren't being upheld.
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Comment on Tech companies are finding out everything is political in ~tech
DefinitelyNotAFae I think this point is more complicated than that. What he's doing is IMO clearly against the Bluesky Community Guidelines. The problem is that their principles say this And He's been instigating...Personally I don't find this very valid, because banning him also won't stop that. BlueSky is a public social media site, you can just make another account. Not to mention that protocol-wise, it's literally impossible in this case because of how AT protocol works. Even in non-AT sites, though, the "make a new account" strat would work.
I think this point is more complicated than that. What he's doing is IMO clearly against the Bluesky Community Guidelines. The problem is that their principles say this
Respect Others: We do not allow harassment, bullying, hate speech, or discrimination. This includes targeting individuals based on protected characteristics.
And
Respect Others
Anti-Discrimination: We protect people's fundamental rights by prohibiting identity-based harm and hatred.
Do not attack, harass, or incite hatred or discrimination against individuals or groups based on protected characteristics such as age, asylum-seeker/refugee status, caste, disability, disease, ethnicity, gender identity, immigrant status, race, religious affiliation, sex, or sexual orientation.
This includes hate speech, slurs, dehumanizing comparisons, supremacist content, conspiracy theories targeting protected groups, and coordinated harassment campaigns.
Anti-Harassment: We create space for everyone to express themselves by prohibiting harassment and toxic behaviors.
Do not stalk, persistently target, or create malicious content designed to humiliate or degrade individuals, including through coordinated campaigns.
Do not abuse Bluesky features (lists, labels, community moderation tools), engage in bad-faith mass reporting, use automated harassment systems, or create single-purpose harassment accounts.
Accounts that engage in extreme or persistent toxic or disruptive behavior may face restrictions or removal. This includes accounts with a high number or proportion of:
- Extreme or repeated personal attacks, such as insults or ad hominem attacks
- Posts or responses made primarily to anger, provoke, or belittle instead of to contribute criticism or a genuine opinion
- The use of hostile or inflammatory language clearly intended to create or contribute to an unwelcoming environment
He's been instigating the harassment of people on Bluesky since before he joined. He continues to do so. By their guidelines he should be restricted or banned.
The question comes down to - will Bluesky enforce their policies against bigger names or just against "regular" people. I think that while some folks would like them to signal ideological alignment, many of us would really just like them to enforce the rules when trans people (and I've seen issues targeting black folks too for example) the target, especially when big names are involved. And yes I'm down with enforcing them against everyone who falls into this.
That is at least why I'm frustrated.
(Also they say they want to evolve with feedback and then mock users who are mad because they're not paying customers. Despite many folks interested in a subscription level that would support Bluesky and give them small perks. )
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Comment on The Hangman by Maurice Ogden, 1951 in ~arts
DefinitelyNotAFae Yeah that is an excellent story! Thanks for reading, I'm glad it hit for someoneYeah that is an excellent story! Thanks for reading, I'm glad it hit for someone
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Comment on Law banning child sex offenders from homeschooling stalled after nine child sex offenders testify against it in ~society
DefinitelyNotAFae I mean it's mostly logic that you, as a child sex offender, wouldn't put yourself up as a witness in this sort of thing since it would typically prejudice people against your "side" and you don't...or the opposing witnesses as a whole simply had 90% fewer sex offenders than the general American population.
I mean it's mostly logic that you, as a child sex offender, wouldn't put yourself up as a witness in this sort of thing since it would typically prejudice people against your "side" and you don't want to be publicly identified as a child sex offender whenever possible. It's perhaps surprising there were even 9 people willing to do so, and IM (educated but not specialized) O it's probably a sign of the egocentrism often demonstrated by unrepentant offenders.
You do need to specify "child sex offender" in your numbers and I'm not sure if you did? I'm not checking the math, just pointing out the distinction is relevant.
I agree the framing inflates the significance, this is coming from someone opposed at least to the lack of oversight of homeschooling if not homeschooling itself.
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Comment on Catfishing - the Wikipedia guessing game in ~games
DefinitelyNotAFae No skin off my nose. I hope you were otherwise successful even if just by a whisker and that you didn't go barking up too many trees. If you did though, don't blubber about it. I'll still clap you...No skin off my nose. I hope you were otherwise successful even if just by a whisker and that you didn't go barking up too many trees. If you did though, don't blubber about it. I'll still clap you on the back.
Besides,
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Comment on Catfishing - the Wikipedia guessing game in ~games
DefinitelyNotAFae 4 out of ten today but one was particularly on brand for me so I'm taking credit 𖡼𖤣𖥧𖡼𓋼𖤣𖥧𓋼𓍊4 out of ten today but one was particularly on brand for me so I'm taking credit 𖡼𖤣𖥧𖡼𓋼𖤣𖥧𓋼𓍊
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Comment on The Hangman by Maurice Ogden, 1951 in ~arts
DefinitelyNotAFae If you'd prefer a pdf Or if you'd prefer an animated film (1964) There are two more cantos. While it parallels the "First they came for" poem, it's referencing the McCarthy era, as Ogden was...If you'd prefer a pdf
Or if you'd prefer an animated film (1964)
Into our town the Hangman came
Smelling of gold and blood and flame—
And he paced our bricks with a diffident air
And built his frame on the courthouse square.The scaffold stood by the courthouse side,
Only as wide as the door was wide;
A frame as tall, or little more,
Than the capping sill of the courthouse door.And we wondered, whenever we had the time,
Who the criminal, what the crime,
The Hangman judged with the yellow twist
Of knotted hemp in his busy fist.And innocent though we were, with dread
We passed those eyes of buckshot lead;
Till one cried: “Hangman, who is he
For whom you raise the gallows-tree?”Then a twinkle grew in the buckshot eye,
And he gave us a riddle instead of reply:
“He who serves me best,” said he,
“Shall earn the rope on the gallows-tree.”And he stepped down, and laid his hand
On a man who came from another land.
And we breathed again, for another’s grief
At the Hangman’s hand was our relief.And the gallows-frame on the courthouse lawn
By tomorrow’s sun would be struck and gone.
So we gave him way, and no one spoke,
Out of respect for his hangman’s cloak.The next day’s sun looked mildly down
On roof and street in our quiet town
And, stark and black in the morning air,
The gallows-tree on the courthouse square.And the Hangman stood at his usual stand
With the yellow hemp in his busy hand;
With his buckshot eye and his jaw like a pike
And his air so knowing and businesslike.And we cried: “Hangman, have you not done,
Yesterday, with the alien one?”
Then we fell silent, and stood amazed:
“Oh, not for him was the gallows raised . . .”He laughed a laugh as he looked at us:
“ . . . Did you think I’d gone to all this fuss
To hang one man? That’s a thing I do
To stretch the rope when the rope is new.”Then one cried “Murderer!” One cried “Shame!”
And into our midst the Hangman came
To that man’s place. “Do you hold,” said he,
With him that’s meant for the gallows-tree?”And he laid his hand on that one’s arm,
And we shrank back in quick alarm,
And we gave him way, and no one spoke
Out of fear of his hangman’s cloak.That night we saw with dread surprise
The Hangman’s scaffold had grown in size.
Fed by the blood beneath the chute
The gallows-tree had taken root.Now as wide, or a little more,
Than the steps that led to the courthouse door,
As tall as the writing, or nearly as tall,
Halfway up on the courthouse wall.There are two more cantos.
While it parallels the "First they came for" poem, it's referencing the McCarthy era, as Ogden was persecuted by the House Un-American Activities Committee.I just found it, and thought it poignant.
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The Hangman by Maurice Ogden, 1951
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Comment on Catfishing - the Wikipedia guessing game in ~games
DefinitelyNotAFae When I saw the answer I recognized it. I have put the Catholicism deep in my brain rather than in active memory. This is probably for the best all things considered. (Though I do enjoy Da Pope)When I saw the answer I recognized it. I have put the Catholicism deep in my brain rather than in active memory. This is probably for the best all things considered. (Though I do enjoy Da Pope)
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Comment on Catfishing - the Wikipedia guessing game in ~games
DefinitelyNotAFae Same that was fun! Although I have a theology teacher giving me that "disappointed" look somewhere out there todaySame that was fun! Although I have a theology teacher giving me that "disappointed" look somewhere out there today
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Comment on High pollen count: The last straw effect on suicide risk in ~health.mental
DefinitelyNotAFae Sleep disturbances and suicide risk: A review of the literature - PMC Once again they also consider whether there are neurobiological factors co-occurring that may cause this link as much as the...Sleep disturbances and suicide risk: A review of the literature - PMC
Findings indicate that suicidal ideation and behaviors are closely associated with sleep complaints, and in some cases, this association exists above and beyond depression. Several cross-sectional investigations indicate a unique association between nightmares and suicidal ideation, whereas the relationship between insomnia and suicidality requires further study.
Once again they also consider whether there are neurobiological factors co-occurring that may cause this link as much as the physical impact of sleep deprivation. All of this tracks to me given my work.
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Comment on In an extract from their new book, international referee Jonas Eriksson describes how top officials were made to strip down to be weighed and have their body fat checked in ~sports.football
DefinitelyNotAFae I disagree, they shouldn't have been done at all. Those sorts of tests and processes don't feel a ton better done solo. They're still incredibly body shaming and if they're about the "look" not...When it came to tests of weight and fat percentage, however, I mostly felt disgust, anger and humiliation. It wasn’t the tests that were the problem, but the way they were conducted.
I disagree, they shouldn't have been done at all. Those sorts of tests and processes don't feel a ton better done solo. They're still incredibly body shaming and if they're about the "look" not the actual ability to do the job, they're just bullshit. It's still fat shaming if you do the shaming in private.
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Comment on High pollen count: The last straw effect on suicide risk in ~health.mental
DefinitelyNotAFae This is interesting too, thanks! I'm not sure if it's only one of these paths or the combination (physical pain/histamine impacts) but this seems like good science stuff.This is interesting too, thanks! I'm not sure if it's only one of these paths or the combination (physical pain/histamine impacts) but this seems like good science stuff.
They likely are seeing something different but generally it's about what you engage with. The issue is more with them existing at all, IMO. I've only seen people pointing out the Jake Paul ones (while not always understanding that he gets paid for them on Sora) and talking about media literacy, not the vids being shared. But all it takes is interacting with them and they can start to seep in. (Reels on FB are trash IME and I don't use Instagram)
In summary, it's not an algorithm issue, it's a user one. At least as of now. That's why I didn't get the angle you were going for with your comment.