While reading this article about local businesses using AI flyers I found an excellent link to an example of these that I think may be more interesting for folks who haven't seen them. Especially...
While reading this article about local businesses using AI flyers I found an excellent link to an example of these that I think may be more interesting for folks who haven't seen them. Especially as I was explaining them somewhere in a previous thread. I thought it might be useful to share what the most obvious, daily, in your face use of AI looks like for many of us non-tech folks. When I think about AI usage, this is much higher on my list than anything to do with coding and that's always a bit jarring to me when I see it talked about exclusively that way. So I think folks in the tech world maybe don't see this side as much either.
These feel ubiquitous in such a way that it surprised me when people didn't have the same experience of seeing these types of flyers. And particularly for restaurants it's such an active turn off to see fake food. I personally have a policy of avoiding businesses that use these especially new food trucks and restaurants.
Only a couple load on that page, hence me submitting this link instead of the one in my comment. But I agree, I don't want to patronize those businesses/events
Only a couple load on that page, hence me submitting this link instead of the one in my comment.
But I agree, I don't want to patronize those businesses/events
This one almost crosses the line from awful slop into terrifyingly amazing. There's been a LOT of sloppy event posters around where I live this year but this has also led to some actively not-AI...
This one almost crosses the line from awful slop into terrifyingly amazing.
There's been a LOT of sloppy event posters around where I live this year but this has also led to some actively not-AI posters showing up, I was tempted to drive three hours to get to this event. Dogs, ice cream, BBQ AND cake. Perfect.
They are a traditional staple of the British village fete, but I have recently found out that my city-kid friends have never heard of such things. I grew up in a fairly rural area so saw several...
They are a traditional staple of the British village fete, but I have recently found out that my city-kid friends have never heard of such things. I grew up in a fairly rural area so saw several different ones every summer along with the equally traditional raffles, tombolas, apple bobs, maypoles and so on.
(something something a fete worse than death etc etc)
Ok, but the "Atlanta Furniture Man" flyer hits at exactly the level of quality I expect from my local shady furniture warehouse sales company. No notes.
Ok, but the "Atlanta Furniture Man" flyer hits at exactly the level of quality I expect from my local shady furniture warehouse sales company. No notes.
Some of these are bad, but at least 3 of them do not seem to be AI-generated at all: Help shape our new mural Sumer Specials Elopement Weddings in the Greehouse I could be wrong here for sure, but...
Some of these are bad, but at least 3 of them do not seem to be AI-generated at all:
I could be wrong here for sure, but it's kind of interesting to me how bad people as a whole are at identifying AI. Presumably a few different people have reviewed these pictures before publishing this article.
The first and last are still in an AI style, even if they're using a real picture they were probably made with the same apps and just inserted their own photo rather than generating it. The middle...
The first and last are still in an AI style, even if they're using a real picture they were probably made with the same apps and just inserted their own photo rather than generating it.
The middle one doesn't have that much of the same style, true. However, it lacks the appearance of having been proofread by only listing lunch menu options by number and not by actual meal. It's a completely useless menu. Suggesting to me that it was not made by a human.
I would be willing to bet that all three used AI to make it even though those three have fewer of the signs
I also think it's odd to flag three out of a very large quantity and use it as a talking point about how people are bad at identifying AI, especially if in fact those three were made with AI as I suspect.
It is entirely possible that the aesthetic in the first and the third has sort of backwards migrated into flyer making apps outside the features as well since it is everywhere. But at that point, I think that is also on the user.
It's the opposite. I've seen flyers design similar to these since before AI existed. It's also important to remember that being boring and derivative does not make something AI: publishing...
The first and last are still in an AI style, even if they're using a real picture they were probably made with the same apps and just inserted their own photo rather than generating it.
the aesthetic in the first and the third has sort of backwards migrated into flyer making apps
It's the opposite. I've seen flyers design similar to these since before AI existed.
It's also important to remember that being boring and derivative does not make something AI: publishing software always comes with templates where you can put your own content in someone else's layout.
The middle one doesn't have that much of the same style, true. However, it lacks the appearance of having been proofread by only listing lunch menu options by number and not by actual meal
You underestimate AI and overestimate immigrant restaurant owners who can barely speak English.
I also think it's odd to flag three out of a very large quantity and use it as a talking point about how people are bad at identifying AI
It's the opposite. I only bring it up now because it's on-topic for this thread. I've seen plenty of incorrect accusations of AI slop, and the opposite, where AI slop was praised for its quality, both here on tildes and in other online & offline spaces. But in those situations I choose not to engage and further derail the discussion.
And again, the other reason I bring this up is because seeing it published in a reputable outlet means that three or four different people reviewed these, and came to what seems like the wrong conclusion on their provenance!
I am aware, I'm also saying they're in the same AI style, just without the generated images. The mural one in particular is very similar. The third pic is less so, but has some elements that lean...
It's the opposite. I've seen flyers design similar to these since before AI existed.
It's also important to remember that being boring and derivative does not make something AI: publishing software always comes with templates where you can put your own content in someone else's layout.
I am aware, I'm also saying they're in the same AI style, just without the generated images. The mural one in particular is very similar. The third pic is less so, but has some elements that lean me towards AI use.
The middle one doesn't have that much of the same style, true. However, it lacks the appearance of having been proofread by only listing lunch menu options by number and not by actual meal
You underestimate AI and overestimate immigrant restaurant owners who can barely speak English.
I overestimate that restaurant owners know people need to know what meal they're ordering? I've eaten at a lot of restaurants run by immigrants who make perfectly functional menus.
This is a weird take to me. None have ever listed their specials like this.
It's the opposite. I only bring it up now because it's on-topic for this thread. I've seen plenty of incorrect accusations of AI slop, and the opposite, where AI slop was praised for its quality, both here on tildes and in other online & offline spaces. But in those situations I choose not to engage and further derail the discussion.
And again, the other reason I bring this up is because seeing it published in a reputable outlet means that three or four different people reviewed these, and came to what seems like the wrong conclusion on their provenance!
Again I could be wrong. But since it's functionally not proveable its just both of our opinions. Regardless 3 examples out of that large group isn't indicative of anything about people's ability to detect AI images en masse. Since neither of us can prove it, idk that an article coming to "what seems like the wrong conclusion in your opinion" is again indicative of really anything? Especially given how integrated this stuff is into software like Canva these days.
Either way, I don't agree but if it's three I don't think it's particularly relevant to the overarching point in the scheme of things.
1 and 3 are definitely AI-generated. The font, the style, the blurring around the text imitating standard jpeg noise, etc. The first one inserts real photos and the third one definitely looks like...
1 and 3 are definitely AI-generated. The font, the style, the blurring around the text imitating standard jpeg noise, etc. The first one inserts real photos and the third one definitely looks like it uses AI images.
The middle one is very stupid in a way I would expect from a lot of local restaurants, but the image of the parent and child in the bottom right is AI-generated, for sure.
Either way, I'd say 404 did a bad job with editing/formatting/whatever the appropriate label would be because they started the article off with ones that are hardly "the worst." Perhaps a bit more structure rather than just a giant dump of images, as well as not including parodies, would have been better received, but there's a lot of pure trash in there.
@Taylorswiftspickles had already confirmed 1 and 3 via software (and I had called it) so I know. I just don't feel like arguing about them. I just think they were like "ooh free article with...
@Taylorswiftspickles had already confirmed 1 and 3 via software (and I had called it) so I know. I just don't feel like arguing about them.
I just think they were like "ooh free article with minimal labor" which was fine since it was useful for my sharing purposes.
It certainly could be, I'm more confused by them listing their specials by number only. But as I said above, I could certainly be wrong (or they could have used AI to generate the text and input...
It certainly could be, I'm more confused by them listing their specials by number only.
But as I said above, I could certainly be wrong (or they could have used AI to generate the text and input that into said template) The "Sumer" part wasn't my personal flag on it.
That said it's certainly one out of a whole bunch.
...it's not a flyer, it's a table-card: i think they listed by number so diners seated at the table could easily reference which combination plates (detailed on the menu in their hands) are or...
...it's not a flyer, it's a table-card: i think they listed by number so diners seated at the table could easily reference which combination plates (detailed on the menu in their hands) are or aren't included in the summer lunch special deal...
(eyeglasses for scale)
...from the photo above, each las marias combination plate is clearly too complicated to briefly itemise in a simple list on a small card...
Yeah I used "menu" because I lacked the words for "table card", thanks for that! I knew what I meant at least. Again, I am fully open to being wrong on that one, and these are all user submitted...
Yeah I used "menu" because I lacked the words for "table card", thanks for that! I knew what I meant at least.
Again, I am fully open to being wrong on that one, and these are all user submitted to the website so entirely possible it slipped through. It was the text that flagged for me, not the imagery and if I'm wrong because I "overestimated" "immigrant restaurant owners" as the other user said, I'll take my hit!
Sumer special is AI. Their logo has a special style of font and banner, what human designer wouldn't reuse those? Okay maybe they have no budget or it's their 13 year old nephew who always hated...
Sumer special is AI. Their logo has a special style of font and banner, what human designer wouldn't reuse those? Okay maybe they have no budget or it's their 13 year old nephew who always hated the logo. Look at the two menus at the top right corner and compare their images. Printed menus shouldn't have difference between two identical printed copies.
And if you're not convinced, go to their official Facebook
facebook dot com / lasmariaspiquaoh
Where they proudly link to a chatgpt poster image on July 17 still hosted on chatgpt. And their plathora of other AI menus / posters
It looks like just a typo to me; AI tools are too good to make mistakes like that any more. Even when they did in the past, it was more like blending different letters together than making...
It looks like just a typo to me; AI tools are too good to make mistakes like that any more. Even when they did in the past, it was more like blending different letters together than making spelling mistakes.
There's an AI slop poster in my local area for tattoo artists meetup. It's an angry moose on a motorcycle facing off an angry... Canadian animal in a leather jacket or whatever. The pupils of one...
There's an AI slop poster in my local area for tattoo artists meetup. It's an angry moose on a motorcycle facing off an angry... Canadian animal in a leather jacket or whatever. The pupils of one of them aren't even aligned, among other oddities. The colours and style unmistakable.
I'm not any kind of artist but I would be pretty upset if they used AI Slop to represent my trade.
Many of them are so busy. Like a Where's Waldo puzzle. When writing software, one should follow a principle of "YAGNI" (You Aren't Gonna Need It) so that you don't write extra code that will never...
Many of them are so busy. Like a Where's Waldo puzzle.
When writing software, one should follow a principle of "YAGNI" (You Aren't Gonna Need It) so that you don't write extra code that will never be used. This is an especially useful concept to tell AI too, because unlike humans, it isn't lazy at all and will modify 15 files when a person would stop and ask a follow up question first before doing something stupid.
So I think when people design posters with AI, they need to tell it that it doesn't have to tell a separate story with every pixel.
I fear that that might be what the prompt was for: people with no appreciation for good clean designing telling bots to put everything in. You know the age old joke about designers being told to...
I fear that that might be what the prompt was for: people with no appreciation for good clean designing telling bots to put everything in. You know the age old joke about designers being told to do bafflingly contradictory and ugly things? Well now those types can do their own because the bot doesn't care. And apparently the human doesn't either.
While reading this article about local businesses using AI flyers I found an excellent link to an example of these that I think may be more interesting for folks who haven't seen them. Especially as I was explaining them somewhere in a previous thread. I thought it might be useful to share what the most obvious, daily, in your face use of AI looks like for many of us non-tech folks. When I think about AI usage, this is much higher on my list than anything to do with coding and that's always a bit jarring to me when I see it talked about exclusively that way. So I think folks in the tech world maybe don't see this side as much either.
These feel ubiquitous in such a way that it surprised me when people didn't have the same experience of seeing these types of flyers. And particularly for restaurants it's such an active turn off to see fake food. I personally have a policy of avoiding businesses that use these especially new food trucks and restaurants.
Only a couple load on that page, hence me submitting this link instead of the one in my comment.
But I agree, I don't want to patronize those businesses/events
This one almost crosses the line from awful slop into terrifyingly amazing.
There's been a LOT of sloppy event posters around where I live this year but this has also led to some actively not-AI posters showing up, I was tempted to drive three hours to get to this event. Dogs, ice cream, BBQ AND cake. Perfect.
Look I'll take MS Paint or that absolute treasure of a hand drawn poster over the hot mess of these any day! That one is a delight!
The Arby's ones are satire:
https://mm.vern.cc/memes/rod-wave-arbys-takeover
(and they're also hilarious!)
...yeah, i spent far too long scrutinising that one and still can't figure out what it's advertising; maybe some kind of parody flyer?...
The first slop poster is terrifying in an American way but the second one....."human fruit machine"????? I get that coconut shy, but ....
They are a traditional staple of the British village fete, but I have recently found out that my city-kid friends have never heard of such things. I grew up in a fairly rural area so saw several different ones every summer along with the equally traditional raffles, tombolas, apple bobs, maypoles and so on.
(something something a fete worse than death etc etc)
Ok, but the "Atlanta Furniture Man" flyer hits at exactly the level of quality I expect from my local shady furniture warehouse sales company. No notes.
Some of these are bad, but at least 3 of them do not seem to be AI-generated at all:
I could be wrong here for sure, but it's kind of interesting to me how bad people as a whole are at identifying AI. Presumably a few different people have reviewed these pictures before publishing this article.
Much appreciate the confirmation!
The first and last are still in an AI style, even if they're using a real picture they were probably made with the same apps and just inserted their own photo rather than generating it.
The middle one doesn't have that much of the same style, true. However, it lacks the appearance of having been proofread by only listing lunch menu options by number and not by actual meal. It's a completely useless menu. Suggesting to me that it was not made by a human.
I would be willing to bet that all three used AI to make it even though those three have fewer of the signs
I also think it's odd to flag three out of a very large quantity and use it as a talking point about how people are bad at identifying AI, especially if in fact those three were made with AI as I suspect.
It is entirely possible that the aesthetic in the first and the third has sort of backwards migrated into flyer making apps outside the features as well since it is everywhere. But at that point, I think that is also on the user.
It's the opposite. I've seen flyers design similar to these since before AI existed.
It's also important to remember that being boring and derivative does not make something AI: publishing software always comes with templates where you can put your own content in someone else's layout.
You underestimate AI and overestimate immigrant restaurant owners who can barely speak English.
It's the opposite. I only bring it up now because it's on-topic for this thread. I've seen plenty of incorrect accusations of AI slop, and the opposite, where AI slop was praised for its quality, both here on tildes and in other online & offline spaces. But in those situations I choose not to engage and further derail the discussion.
And again, the other reason I bring this up is because seeing it published in a reputable outlet means that three or four different people reviewed these, and came to what seems like the wrong conclusion on their provenance!
a parting note
I am aware, I'm also saying they're in the same AI style, just without the generated images. The mural one in particular is very similar. The third pic is less so, but has some elements that lean me towards AI use.
I overestimate that restaurant owners know people need to know what meal they're ordering? I've eaten at a lot of restaurants run by immigrants who make perfectly functional menus.
This is a weird take to me. None have ever listed their specials like this.
Again I could be wrong. But since it's functionally not proveable its just both of our opinions. Regardless 3 examples out of that large group isn't indicative of anything about people's ability to detect AI images en masse. Since neither of us can prove it, idk that an article coming to "what seems like the wrong conclusion in your opinion" is again indicative of really anything? Especially given how integrated this stuff is into software like Canva these days.
Either way, I don't agree but if it's three I don't think it's particularly relevant to the overarching point in the scheme of things.
1 and 3 are definitely AI-generated. The font, the style, the blurring around the text imitating standard jpeg noise, etc. The first one inserts real photos and the third one definitely looks like it uses AI images.
The middle one is very stupid in a way I would expect from a lot of local restaurants, but the image of the parent and child in the bottom right is AI-generated, for sure.
Either way, I'd say 404 did a bad job with editing/formatting/whatever the appropriate label would be because they started the article off with ones that are hardly "the worst." Perhaps a bit more structure rather than just a giant dump of images, as well as not including parodies, would have been better received, but there's a lot of pure trash in there.
@Taylorswiftspickles had already confirmed 1 and 3 via software (and I had called it) so I know. I just don't feel like arguing about them.
I just think they were like "ooh free article with minimal labor" which was fine since it was useful for my sharing purposes.
...i feel like sumer specials used a template poorly, but isn't generative AI...
It certainly could be, I'm more confused by them listing their specials by number only.
But as I said above, I could certainly be wrong (or they could have used AI to generate the text and input that into said template) The "Sumer" part wasn't my personal flag on it.
That said it's certainly one out of a whole bunch.
...it's not a flyer, it's a table-card: i think they listed by number so diners seated at the table could easily reference which combination plates (detailed on the menu in their hands) are or aren't included in the summer lunch special deal...
(eyeglasses for scale)
...from the photo above, each las marias combination plate is clearly too complicated to briefly itemise in a simple list on a small card...
Yeah I used "menu" because I lacked the words for "table card", thanks for that! I knew what I meant at least.
Again, I am fully open to being wrong on that one, and these are all user submitted to the website so entirely possible it slipped through. It was the text that flagged for me, not the imagery and if I'm wrong because I "overestimated" "immigrant restaurant owners" as the other user said, I'll take my hit!
Sumer special is AI. Their logo has a special style of font and banner, what human designer wouldn't reuse those? Okay maybe they have no budget or it's their 13 year old nephew who always hated the logo. Look at the two menus at the top right corner and compare their images. Printed menus shouldn't have difference between two identical printed copies.
And if you're not convinced, go to their official Facebook
facebook dot com / lasmariaspiquaoh
Where they proudly link to a chatgpt poster image on July 17 still hosted on chatgpt. And their plathora of other AI menus / posters
Okay I'm glad I wasn't the only person confused by those first few. "Sumer Specials" does feel off, but it could also just be a typo.
It looks like just a typo to me; AI tools are too good to make mistakes like that any more. Even when they did in the past, it was more like blending different letters together than making spelling mistakes.
It might have assumed it was a Sumerian historical cultural themed restaurant. Not like it knows anything.
There's an AI slop poster in my local area for tattoo artists meetup. It's an angry moose on a motorcycle facing off an angry... Canadian animal in a leather jacket or whatever. The pupils of one of them aren't even aligned, among other oddities. The colours and style unmistakable.
I'm not any kind of artist but I would be pretty upset if they used AI Slop to represent my trade.
Yeah doing it for artwork is ironic in the dark unfunny way.
Can you imagine going to get a tattoo and it's by someone who has so little confidence in their art they use AI slop.?
Nope!
Many of them are so busy. Like a Where's Waldo puzzle.
When writing software, one should follow a principle of "YAGNI" (You Aren't Gonna Need It) so that you don't write extra code that will never be used. This is an especially useful concept to tell AI too, because unlike humans, it isn't lazy at all and will modify 15 files when a person would stop and ask a follow up question first before doing something stupid.
So I think when people design posters with AI, they need to tell it that it doesn't have to tell a separate story with every pixel.
I fear that that might be what the prompt was for: people with no appreciation for good clean designing telling bots to put everything in. You know the age old joke about designers being told to do bafflingly contradictory and ugly things? Well now those types can do their own because the bot doesn't care. And apparently the human doesn't either.