43 votes

Pace of global warming has doubled since 2015

17 comments

  1. [14]
    snake_case
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    We’re really feeling it in the SE United States. This past winter was very rough and the summer before that was unbearable. We get a severe weather alert for just about every single storm now and...

    We’re really feeling it in the SE United States. This past winter was very rough and the summer before that was unbearable.

    We get a severe weather alert for just about every single storm now and multiple tornadoes a year when we used to have one maybe every few years.

    Hurricanes have also gotten worse, seems like every one people are saying we need to define a cat 6 and 7. Yet people are still building new houses on the beach for some reason. Insurance fraud maybe.

    18 votes
    1. [8]
      MimicSquid
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      Not insurance fraud, quite, but flood insurance that's subsidized by the federal government in a way that lets people take repeated outsized risks regarding the flood exposure of their houses. The...

      Not insurance fraud, quite, but flood insurance that's subsidized by the federal government in a way that lets people take repeated outsized risks regarding the flood exposure of their houses. The National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP) has shaped the housing market across the country, and the lack of any mechanism to refuse to re-insure a property that has been washed away repeatedly has led to abuse of the program. My preferred solution would be a forced buyout of the land after a certain number of claims for a full rebuild of the house. It would naturally shift habitation away from areas that are going to be destroyed repeatedly.

      15 votes
      1. [6]
        chocobean
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        Or make it so the lending banks are aware the property cannot be resold for more than what it's current worth. No one gets kicked out but neither will this be worth anything more. After this last...

        Or make it so the lending banks are aware the property cannot be resold for more than what it's current worth. No one gets kicked out but neither will this be worth anything more. After this last generation no one can live in them.

        3 votes
        1. [4]
          stu2b50
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          That's already the case. It's not like banks are stupid; they can see FEMA floop maps too. Burn maps - all the natural disaster maps are available to them. For the most part these either can't get...

          That's already the case. It's not like banks are stupid; they can see FEMA floop maps too. Burn maps - all the natural disaster maps are available to them.

          For the most part these either can't get loans, or get them at very high interest rates. But they can still be built, because some consumers are paying for the entire cost out of pocket, with no bank involved.

          5 votes
          1. [3]
            chocobean
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            I don't even understand who these out of pocket no insurance buyers are.... Literally, "after me, the flood"? Why don't they want a vacation home that would have better lasting value?

            I don't even understand who these out of pocket no insurance buyers are.... Literally, "after me, the flood"? Why don't they want a vacation home that would have better lasting value?

            2 votes
            1. [2]
              Akir
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              Because pretty. For some people money isn't that hard to come by and they are so entranced by the view that is beautiful and (reasonably) safe 99% of the time that it's worth the buy. Especially...

              Because pretty. For some people money isn't that hard to come by and they are so entranced by the view that is beautiful and (reasonably) safe 99% of the time that it's worth the buy. Especially with insurance.

              4 votes
              1. vord
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                Plus if you're not using it, you can rent it out for $5,000 to $9,000 per week.

                Plus if you're not using it, you can rent it out for $5,000 to $9,000 per week.

                2 votes
        2. MimicSquid
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          Given how often some structures have been destroyed and rebuilt, and how few restrictions there are on new constructions on beaches and in floodplains, that would still be promising to rebuild a...

          Given how often some structures have been destroyed and rebuilt, and how few restrictions there are on new constructions on beaches and in floodplains, that would still be promising to rebuild a house 15-20 times over a lifetime. That seems unreasonable, and leaves each house as a tool for a lifetime of insurance abuse.

          2 votes
      2. snake_case
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        Theres so much broken shit we cant fix cause our government doesn’t do anything lol

        Theres so much broken shit we cant fix cause our government doesn’t do anything lol

        2 votes
    2. [4]
      Englerdy
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      Same in the west. It's been an unbelievably warm winter and exceptionally dry. It's so warm I've been opening up the windows to air out and cool the house almost daily, IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER....

      Same in the west. It's been an unbelievably warm winter and exceptionally dry. It's so warm I've been opening up the windows to air out and cool the house almost daily, IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER. There's been almost no snow even in the mountains. I'm worried we're in for another wicked wildfire season come summer. Just bonkers.

      8 votes
      1. Akir
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        LA has been crazy. I've been joking with my husband that he's finally entered his slutty phase because he's constantly taking his shirt off in winter, where there have been more than a few days of...

        LA has been crazy. I've been joking with my husband that he's finally entered his slutty phase because he's constantly taking his shirt off in winter, where there have been more than a few days of 80+ ºF weather, including weeks where it's gone from the 60s to the 80s.

        We had a mild summer this last year, but I'm pretty sure that our house without air conditioning is going to be hell this year.

        8 votes
      2. Habituallytired
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        The Bay Area has seen a lot of rain this winter, but it was also much warmer than usual. The heaviest thing I needed to wear when going out was a light hoodie, until it got to be freezing for like...

        The Bay Area has seen a lot of rain this winter, but it was also much warmer than usual. The heaviest thing I needed to wear when going out was a light hoodie, until it got to be freezing for like a week in January. And today in my neighborhood it's 67 degrees.

        4 votes
      3. snake_case
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        Oh no our winter was awful. It was a good 20 degrees colder than usual for just weeks and weeks. Felt like Id moved to Ohio or something.

        Oh no our winter was awful. It was a good 20 degrees colder than usual for just weeks and weeks. Felt like Id moved to Ohio or something.

        2 votes
    3. kjw
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      It's VERY, VERY dry here in Poland. Winter was very cold, unusually cold for last 10 years, however there was not much precipitation, not much snow. So the earth is too cold to get soaked by this...

      It's VERY, VERY dry here in Poland. Winter was very cold, unusually cold for last 10 years, however there was not much precipitation, not much snow. So the earth is too cold to get soaked by this small amount of snow and ice melting. All the water goes into the rivers and down to the sea, it's not getting into the soil. And currently there's been week without rain and probably next week without rain.

      1 vote
  2. [3]
    kacey
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    I wonder whether this (and other results) will increase the palatability of solar radiation modification geoengineering approaches, as we determine with increasing confidence that previous warming...

    Hausfather also tells Carbon Brief that the “most likely driver” of the acceleration in warming is “reductions in planet-cooling sulfur dioxide emissions that have been masking some of the historical warming that we are now rapidly experiencing”.

    I wonder whether this (and other results) will increase the palatability of solar radiation modification geoengineering approaches, as we determine with increasing confidence that previous warming signals were being hidden by -- now reduced -- sulfur particulate emissions. I recall some intense debates with friends a decade+ ago about whether geoengineering approaches will/should end up being deployed to blunt the worst effects of climate change to buy time for our ineffectual leaders. If this winds up happening, I'll be none too happy about having to win that argument.

    9 votes
    1. [2]
      MimicSquid
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      One of my favorite bits of near-future sci-fi posits that the end of the world was caused by various nations all moving on geoengineering projects that would protect their slice of the pie, and...

      One of my favorite bits of near-future sci-fi posits that the end of the world was caused by various nations all moving on geoengineering projects that would protect their slice of the pie, and the collective results were to force an ice age. It's exactly the sort of coordination failure that feels all too feasible.

      8 votes
      1. vord
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        The Matrix hitting a little too close to home rn.

        We don't know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky

        The Matrix hitting a little too close to home rn.

        5 votes