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The day I put $50,000 in a shoe box and handed it to a stranger
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- Title
- How I Got Scammed Out of $50,000
- Authors
- Charlotte Cowles
- Published
- Feb 15 2024
- Word count
- 5754 words
I'm glad she wrote this article: in the safety and comfort of our homes it's easy to see it is a scam, and we can poke holes at it all we want. But it's important to read just in case it happens to us or those we love.
They probably also targeted her on Halloween because targets with children would be busy thinking about the kids looking forward to festivities, how they can't disappoint and upset the children, and want it to all be over so they can get back to their original holiday plans.
Especially if she was talking to the real CIA or real police, especially because she's innocent, she should have hung up and got a lawyer involved. Investigators do not help people they are investigating.
I think this is an extremely important point to stress. It might seem obvious to us reading this story, but in the moment it can seem all to real and serious.
My dad fell for one of those fake IRS tax scams where they call and say you'll be arrested unless you pay your "back taxes" immediately. This was nearly a decade ago, before they were as widespread and well known as they are now. When he told me what happened, my first reaction was to be mad, but I can see why he panicked in the moment and sent them the money (luckily it was only $200).
This story just reinforces that you should never, ever speak to law enforcement without a lawyer. This isn't what's typically being warned against with that advice, but it applies all the same. If law enforcement is directing you not to speak with a lawyer, that's all the more reason to speak with one.
Police, yes—cia? perhaps not. Government can fuck you up (e.g.). But that's not too likely to happen to most people.
But even in that situation, hanging up and calling a lawyer helped, not hurt.
I feel bad for her, but I know the feeling of uncertainty when someone contacts you and you just can't figure out of they're legit or not. Four times in the last few months it's happened to me. It's a collection agency saying I missed a heating bill from four years ago. Really? Four years ago and you're calling me now? For a measly $150?
Turns out that bill is probably semi legit but the house was rented out at the time so it wasn't me who missed the payment. But it took a long time to verify as they wouldn't even show me a bill and at first said they didn't even have one, just that they bought the debt. For weeks I thought they were just scamming me. Might still be as I keep very good records and very very rarely miss a bill payment.
Edit: I finally got the collection agency to send me the bill. It has my name and my address but its not my account. I had 6 accounts with that particular company at the time and this wasn't one of them. Not paying them a dime.
They're likely correct that they don't have the bill or any decent documentation, but that also means they may be on thin ice getting anything from you, if you know your rights. (Or at least that seems to be true in the US; I'm not a lawyer and you should probably seek advice about your specific situation.)
From: Credit card debt collection
Also:
Disclaimer: Not legal advice.
Collection agencies are notorious for their antics and almost always acting in bad faith. They often don't know the legitimacy of the debt and don't care about that if they're able to extract money from you, since that's a return on investment.
This blog post discusses the industry at length. I highly recommend reading it so you don't fall victim to their intimidation or guilt tactics.Sorry, didn't see that this was already posted!In short though, if they call, ask for it in writing. If they write, ask for verification. If they can't produce verification and are still bothering you, threaten legal or regulatory action.
This (and the recent Cory Doctorow article) really stresses to me the importance of just taking a moment to hang up and call the institution directly from your side if any kind of stranger contacts you on the phone at all. In our modern life, I am finding that more and more, the only people who call me directly are not the service providers I deal with, but scammers and spammers.
And it seems that just taking a break is important, which hanging up and calling back later gives you a chance to do.
Yeah. Anytime someone reaches out to you and expresses that there's urgency, it's a scam.
Yeah I always do this. I'm not so cocky to believe that I could never fall prey to a scam but I do feel like it is very unlikely that I will fall prey to a phone scam as I am instantly skeptical of anyone calling me.
Thankfully, I guess, most of the scam calls I get are incredibly obvious like the classic "The RCMP is taking seizure action against your SSN unless you immediately..."
Mirror, for those hit by the paywall:
https://archive.is/iCYfL
From the article: