You know who doesn't know what "rebuild database" means? Xbox users. It's honestly pretty weird how people rally in support for Sony. Everything about it is more expensive, its hardware is more...
You know who doesn't know what "rebuild database" means? Xbox users.
It's honestly pretty weird how people rally in support for Sony. Everything about it is more expensive, its hardware is more prone to failure and its software inferior. All my friends have consoles, and literally all our PS4s malfunction on a regular basis (some stopped working altogether). Is it asking too much to expect a console to freaking turn on when you wanna use it? Or to simply work after a power outage? Sony doesn't really need to do much, they're already victorious from the start. Playstations enjoy the benefit of fandom distortion field. Are exclusives really worth that much?
I'm going to disagree with this. I primarily play games on PC, but I own both a PS4 and an Xbox One. I find the PS4 system menu considerably more intuitive than that of the Xbox One. It's not even...
its software inferior.
I'm going to disagree with this. I primarily play games on PC, but I own both a PS4 and an Xbox One. I find the PS4 system menu considerably more intuitive than that of the Xbox One. It's not even close. The Xbox One menu feels laggy and disorganized. It's typical Microsoft software.
I think PlayStation continues to dominate in popularity because they have a big library of high quality exclusive games. Microsoft has a small stable of exclusives, but has struggled to maintain a consistent output of quality exclusives the way Sony has. People primarily buy these machines to play games, so of course they will gravitate to whichever machine has better games.
Xboxes usually recover for a forced shutdown quite graciously. Playstations require all kinds of incantations to work after a crash or a power outage. That's one of my main gripes with Playstation...
Xboxes usually recover for a forced shutdown quite graciously. Playstations require all kinds of incantations to work after a crash or a power outage. That's one of my main gripes with Playstation software. Playstations require constant pampering.
I have also never that happen to me. It just beeps angrily, tells me I turned it off wrong, does a disk check and goes back to the main menu if there's been a power failure. I've never heard of...
I have also never that happen to me. It just beeps angrily, tells me I turned it off wrong, does a disk check and goes back to the main menu if there's been a power failure. I've never heard of anyone having this issue either.
Maybe it's a climate thing. Maybe the Brazilian humidity is giving it issues.
Maybe so. If that is the case, Microsoft (among many other manufactures, including Sony when it comes to other products) doesn't seem to have a problem with that.
Maybe it's a climate thing. Maybe the Brazilian humidity is giving it issues.
Maybe so. If that is the case, Microsoft (among many other manufactures, including Sony when it comes to other products) doesn't seem to have a problem with that.
also keep in mind your use case is a sample of 1. Sometimes you just get a bad piece of hardware and need to replace it. That's why warraties exist. side note: Someone using a term like "fandom...
also keep in mind your use case is a sample of 1. Sometimes you just get a bad piece of hardware and need to replace it. That's why warraties exist.
side note: Someone using a term like "fandom distorion view" should make sure their glasses are properly tuned as well. Glass houses and all that.
My PS4 just goes through a disk check procedure automatically after a power outage. Windows does the same thing. I assume Xboxes actually do too and just don't tell the user about it.
My PS4 just goes through a disk check procedure automatically after a power outage. Windows does the same thing. I assume Xboxes actually do too and just don't tell the user about it.
Sadly that was not my experience. In addition to the disk check (which takes quite some time and is far more common in comparison to the Xbox), after any such interruption, the PS4 sometimes won't...
Sadly that was not my experience. In addition to the disk check (which takes quite some time and is far more common in comparison to the Xbox), after any such interruption, the PS4 sometimes won't turn on. If that only happened with my device I might think it was just an exception, but that was not the case. Among my group of friends, I'm talking about 5 PS4s and one PS3, all purchased from different vendors and at different times. We don't live close to each other so the electrical grid is not the issue (besides, our other devices, including Xboxes, work fine). Even when turning it off correctly, moving the PS4 to another house or room often made it stop functioning for hours or days. Not only that, my friend's consoles frequently emit all sorts of beeps and catastrophic sounding errors. And these are not old machines. The PS3 was pretty much the same if not worse. Just a finicky device. This even became an inside joke for us. None of us intend to buy Sony consoles ever again.
Weird, this is literally the first I've heard of anyone having those kinds of issues. I bought my PS4 on launch day and it still works basically like new. I upgraded the hard drive in 2016 and...
Weird, this is literally the first I've heard of anyone having those kinds of issues. I bought my PS4 on launch day and it still works basically like new. I upgraded the hard drive in 2016 and cleaned dust out of it two years ago and that is it.
Frankly though even if your issues are common, they're nothing like the red ring of death and yellow light of death issues that plagued the 7th gen consoles.
I’ve literally never had a problem after a power failure with my PS4, wether it was in sleep mode or I was actively playing. It does check a quick drive check whenever that happens, but that’s...
I’ve literally never had a problem after a power failure with my PS4, wether it was in sleep mode or I was actively playing.
It does check a quick drive check whenever that happens, but that’s pretty understandable. My computer does the same thing. If you find it takes too long you can presumably replace the mechanical drive with an SSD.
I did know someone who had an issue with the disc randomly ejecting, but that was fixed simply by cleaning it.
Unless that has changed significantly from the ps4 to ps5, that has not been my experience. My ps5 is the first PlayStation since the ps2. I have accidentally forced shutdown a handful of times....
Unless that has changed significantly from the ps4 to ps5, that has not been my experience. My ps5 is the first PlayStation since the ps2. I have accidentally forced shutdown a handful of times. Each time it gives a nasty message to not do that, and proceeds to work perfectly.
It's just not a universal experience in a global manufacturing market. There are many factors that go into hardware manufacturing, including where parts are sourced in different factories around...
It's just not a universal experience in a global manufacturing market. There are many factors that go into hardware manufacturing, including where parts are sourced in different factories around the world. Even in one region, different batches of consoles can be made of differently sourced components. Brazil has notably been a sore point for console manufacturing forever, too. I can't speak to why but I've heard concerns about Brazillian hardware standards since back in the early 2000's.
Here in North America, the Xbox 360 was probably the most inconsistent console ever made, it was plagued with multiple issues over its entire lifespan.
On an even playing field where hardware problems aren't much of a factor, exclusives are a big enough deal, yeah. It was one of the reasons I didn't consider an Xbox One after having an Xbox 360 exclusively during its generation.
Back to the uneven playing field: also because I ended up having seven Xbox 360's that generation. Microsoft's Canadian production back then was highly problematic. One other fun thing they did was print all Canadian versions of Gears of War 2's LE in French only for some bizarre reason.
Sony doesn't manufacture or assemble consoles in Brazil so all PS4 in the country where imported. I wish I still had my PS4 Pro to tell you where it came from. Sony also completely banned me from...
Sony doesn't manufacture or assemble consoles in Brazil so all PS4 in the country where imported. I wish I still had my PS4 Pro to tell you where it came from.
Sony also completely banned me from Sony Entertainment and my PSN account due to a mere conflict with my credit card company. I was blocked from more than a thousand US dollars worth of purchases because a 30 dollar transaction went wrong. There were others ways to solve that, including contacting me or maybe removing that specific game from my account. And it was a PIA to solve. Never again.
Well, yeah. Game consoles exist to play games, after all. These days everything but the Switch is fairly homogenized in feature set otherwise. It's also good to keep in mind that games aren't...
Are exclusives really worth that much?
Well, yeah. Game consoles exist to play games, after all. These days everything but the Switch is fairly homogenized in feature set otherwise.
It's also good to keep in mind that games aren't fungible - I really enjoyed Bloodborne, I would take that experience over every AC game I've played if I had to choose. That is of course subjective, but the point is is that you can take a look at the totality of games realized and think "well, there really aren't that many exclusives - can't you get on with all the other games that come out?" and the answer is no - specific games are important.
Personally my PS4 is still chugging while I can't be bothered to do the hoops you need to jump through to buy a PS5, so I have not had your experience with unreliability. I am still planning on buying a PS5 once you don't need to go to specialized discords where bots alert everyone when an online shop has stock.
This makes sense, if someone has a PS4 that can play a new game, then all someone would need to get is the game, as opposed to getting new hardware for the experience. PS5's are still difficult...
This makes sense, if someone has a PS4 that can play a new game, then all someone would need to get is the game, as opposed to getting new hardware for the experience. PS5's are still difficult and expensive to purchase, presumably that would be the case even without a pandemic. Even PS4s pre-owned aren't losing that much value on eBay, so why not produce games for the version everyone has.
If a console requires something like that there's something very wrong about it. Especially considering that the Xbox have no trouble whatsoever dealing with that.
If a console requires something like that there's something very wrong about it. Especially considering that the Xbox have no trouble whatsoever dealing with that.
You know who doesn't know what "rebuild database" means? Xbox users.
It's honestly pretty weird how people rally in support for Sony. Everything about it is more expensive, its hardware is more prone to failure and its software inferior. All my friends have consoles, and literally all our PS4s malfunction on a regular basis (some stopped working altogether). Is it asking too much to expect a console to freaking turn on when you wanna use it? Or to simply work after a power outage? Sony doesn't really need to do much, they're already victorious from the start. Playstations enjoy the benefit of fandom distortion field. Are exclusives really worth that much?
I'm going to disagree with this. I primarily play games on PC, but I own both a PS4 and an Xbox One. I find the PS4 system menu considerably more intuitive than that of the Xbox One. It's not even close. The Xbox One menu feels laggy and disorganized. It's typical Microsoft software.
I think PlayStation continues to dominate in popularity because they have a big library of high quality exclusive games. Microsoft has a small stable of exclusives, but has struggled to maintain a consistent output of quality exclusives the way Sony has. People primarily buy these machines to play games, so of course they will gravitate to whichever machine has better games.
Xboxes usually recover for a forced shutdown quite graciously. Playstations require all kinds of incantations to work after a crash or a power outage. That's one of my main gripes with Playstation software. Playstations require constant pampering.
There are other things.
I have also never that happen to me. It just beeps angrily, tells me I turned it off wrong, does a disk check and goes back to the main menu if there's been a power failure. I've never heard of anyone having this issue either.
Maybe it's a climate thing. Maybe the Brazilian humidity is giving it issues.
Maybe so. If that is the case, Microsoft (among many other manufactures, including Sony when it comes to other products) doesn't seem to have a problem with that.
also keep in mind your use case is a sample of 1. Sometimes you just get a bad piece of hardware and need to replace it. That's why warraties exist.
side note: Someone using a term like "fandom distorion view" should make sure their glasses are properly tuned as well. Glass houses and all that.
Not 1, 5...
My PS4 just goes through a disk check procedure automatically after a power outage. Windows does the same thing. I assume Xboxes actually do too and just don't tell the user about it.
Sadly that was not my experience. In addition to the disk check (which takes quite some time and is far more common in comparison to the Xbox), after any such interruption, the PS4 sometimes won't turn on. If that only happened with my device I might think it was just an exception, but that was not the case. Among my group of friends, I'm talking about 5 PS4s and one PS3, all purchased from different vendors and at different times. We don't live close to each other so the electrical grid is not the issue (besides, our other devices, including Xboxes, work fine). Even when turning it off correctly, moving the PS4 to another house or room often made it stop functioning for hours or days. Not only that, my friend's consoles frequently emit all sorts of beeps and catastrophic sounding errors. And these are not old machines. The PS3 was pretty much the same if not worse. Just a finicky device. This even became an inside joke for us. None of us intend to buy Sony consoles ever again.
Weird, this is literally the first I've heard of anyone having those kinds of issues. I bought my PS4 on launch day and it still works basically like new. I upgraded the hard drive in 2016 and cleaned dust out of it two years ago and that is it.
Frankly though even if your issues are common, they're nothing like the red ring of death and yellow light of death issues that plagued the 7th gen consoles.
I’ve literally never had a problem after a power failure with my PS4, wether it was in sleep mode or I was actively playing.
It does check a quick drive check whenever that happens, but that’s pretty understandable. My computer does the same thing. If you find it takes too long you can presumably replace the mechanical drive with an SSD.
I did know someone who had an issue with the disc randomly ejecting, but that was fixed simply by cleaning it.
Unless that has changed significantly from the ps4 to ps5, that has not been my experience. My ps5 is the first PlayStation since the ps2. I have accidentally forced shutdown a handful of times. Each time it gives a nasty message to not do that, and proceeds to work perfectly.
I believe that is very much the case. I also had a PS2 and it was a very resilient machine.
It's just not a universal experience in a global manufacturing market. There are many factors that go into hardware manufacturing, including where parts are sourced in different factories around the world. Even in one region, different batches of consoles can be made of differently sourced components. Brazil has notably been a sore point for console manufacturing forever, too. I can't speak to why but I've heard concerns about Brazillian hardware standards since back in the early 2000's.
Here in North America, the Xbox 360 was probably the most inconsistent console ever made, it was plagued with multiple issues over its entire lifespan.
On an even playing field where hardware problems aren't much of a factor, exclusives are a big enough deal, yeah. It was one of the reasons I didn't consider an Xbox One after having an Xbox 360 exclusively during its generation.
Back to the uneven playing field: also because I ended up having seven Xbox 360's that generation. Microsoft's Canadian production back then was highly problematic. One other fun thing they did was print all Canadian versions of Gears of War 2's LE in French only for some bizarre reason.
Sony doesn't manufacture or assemble consoles in Brazil so all PS4 in the country where imported. I wish I still had my PS4 Pro to tell you where it came from.
Sony also completely banned me from Sony Entertainment and my PSN account due to a mere conflict with my credit card company. I was blocked from more than a thousand US dollars worth of purchases because a 30 dollar transaction went wrong. There were others ways to solve that, including contacting me or maybe removing that specific game from my account. And it was a PIA to solve. Never again.
Well, yeah. Game consoles exist to play games, after all. These days everything but the Switch is fairly homogenized in feature set otherwise.
It's also good to keep in mind that games aren't fungible - I really enjoyed Bloodborne, I would take that experience over every AC game I've played if I had to choose. That is of course subjective, but the point is is that you can take a look at the totality of games realized and think "well, there really aren't that many exclusives - can't you get on with all the other games that come out?" and the answer is no - specific games are important.
Personally my PS4 is still chugging while I can't be bothered to do the hoops you need to jump through to buy a PS5, so I have not had your experience with unreliability. I am still planning on buying a PS5 once you don't need to go to specialized discords where bots alert everyone when an online shop has stock.
This makes sense, if someone has a PS4 that can play a new game, then all someone would need to get is the game, as opposed to getting new hardware for the experience. PS5's are still difficult and expensive to purchase, presumably that would be the case even without a pandemic. Even PS4s pre-owned aren't losing that much value on eBay, so why not produce games for the version everyone has.
Indeed. Because of the long(ish) recovery times of the PS3 after an ungraceful power down, I kept the PS3 and PS4 on UPS.
If a console requires something like that there's something very wrong about it. Especially considering that the Xbox have no trouble whatsoever dealing with that.
I can only talk about the devices me and my friends have owned. Sony presented numerous defects, Microsoft devices showed much greater resilience.
My point is that I shouldn't need one.