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Boris Johnson admitted to hospital as COVID-19 symptoms persist

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    JXM
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    On the one hand, I try to remember that he's a person who's suffering. On the other hand, he's also made countless people suffer needlessly so it's hard to feel bad for him. Quite the moral conundrum.

    On the one hand, I try to remember that he's a person who's suffering. On the other hand, he's also made countless people suffer needlessly so it's hard to feel bad for him.

    Quite the moral conundrum.

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      I had the same consideration when Roger Ailes, the founder of Fox News, died. People on the forum I was part of at the time celebrated his death, and I couldn't reconcile it with the fact that a...

      I had the same consideration when Roger Ailes, the founder of Fox News, died. People on the forum I was part of at the time celebrated his death, and I couldn't reconcile it with the fact that a person died and people are cheering.

      At some point I figured it's worth limiting the amount of empathy you give to people who've made it their life goal to feed off fear and worry on a national scale. Johnson is a thorougly-unpleasant man who's charismatic enough to get away with it if you forget the shit he's been doing for decades to sow discord in the UK and put his country in opposition to EU.

      If he dies of COVID-19 complications, I wouldn't be too concerned for him.

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      1. Kuromantis
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        I personally think about it like this: 1: Will this affect the party/corporation/nation he runs? 2: Is there someone we can hold accountable for this? In Ailes's case it's 'no' and 'not really',...

        I personally think about it like this:

        1: Will this affect the party/corporation/nation he runs?

        2: Is there someone we can hold accountable for this?

        In Ailes's case it's 'no' and 'not really', he made FOX himself and died of a disease he had from birth.

        If Johnson dies from COVID the answers are 'it depends on us' and 'everyone who voted for him and his policies that hurt the very NHS that he's using now'

        If he dies I think we should hold it as a collective gun to every conservative's head and demand them either to support better healthcare or admit they really are that unsympathetic.

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          For some people, this callousness is something to be learned, not to come by at birth. There are people with big heart out there, ready to extend their hand to everyone.

          For some people, this callousness is something to be learned, not to come by at birth. There are people with big heart out there, ready to extend their hand to everyone.

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            NaraVara
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            Unfortunately, for most people "everyone" isn't really everyone. Just the figures the media designates as worthy of respect. Celebrities, people in power, rich and pretty people, etc. Poor people,...

            There are people with big heart out there, ready to extend their hand to everyone.

            Unfortunately, for most people "everyone" isn't really everyone. Just the figures the media designates as worthy of respect. Celebrities, people in power, rich and pretty people, etc. Poor people, minorities, foreigners, etc. need not apply.

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            1. unknown user
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              I don't see how that's related to what I said.

              I don't see how that's related to what I said.

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          1. moonbathers
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            Boko Haram and other religious terrorists are small potatoes in terms of how much evil they can inflict upon the world compared to government-level actors. I'm not gonna claim Ailes and Fox are as...

            Boko Haram and other religious terrorists are small potatoes in terms of how much evil they can inflict upon the world compared to government-level actors. I'm not gonna claim Ailes and Fox are as evil as governments that orchestrate genocide, but I don't think you can say other people lack perspective immediately after claiming religious terrorists are worse than people that commit genocide.

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      1. JXM
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        Interesting. I tend to agree with what you’re saying.

        Interesting. I tend to agree with what you’re saying.

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    3. nothis
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      Honestly, I'm not a god. If I had a say in whether he lives or dies, I'd of course save his life, I'm not a monster. But I don't believe in prayers, his fate is what it is and he's one of...

      Honestly, I'm not a god. If I had a say in whether he lives or dies, I'd of course save his life, I'm not a monster. But I don't believe in prayers, his fate is what it is and he's one of thousands (or rather, millions) of people suffering worldwide. I can't really feel for all of them. His only connection to me is that he's a politician who promoted sacrificing the old and weak to protect the economy. If he truly dies, it's hard for me to feel sorry for him. Maybe if he dies, that's the drastic story the world needs to realize these deaths aren't just a statistic.

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    JakeTheDog
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    So, uh, I guess he's contributing to herd immunity? Good sport he is. I wonder what he thinks about it as a large scale strategy.

    So, uh, I guess he's contributing to herd immunity? Good sport he is. I wonder what he thinks about it as a large scale strategy.

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      AugustusFerdinand
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      He's probably thinking of more reasons to cut/privatize NHS every time his jello is later than he'd like it to be.

      He's probably thinking of more reasons to cut/privatize NHS every time his jello is later than he'd like it to be.

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        JoylessAubergine
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        He's probably hoping he isnt one of the 10% who die after hospitalisation and wondering whether he will see his unborn kid.

        He's probably hoping he isnt one of the 10% who die after hospitalisation and wondering whether he will see his unborn kid.

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        1. babypuncher
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          He should have thought about that before saying the virus wasn't a big deal and shaking peoples hands in a hospital full of coronavirus patients.

          He should have thought about that before saying the virus wasn't a big deal and shaking peoples hands in a hospital full of coronavirus patients.

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    1. Kuromantis
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      I fell for this headline immediately. Onion, you're 6 days late to April fools.

      I fell for this headline immediately. Onion, you're 6 days late to April fools.

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    1. aphoenix
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      I hope he recovers quickly. One of the best assets a country can have is someone with intimate knowledge of how awful things are, who has the power to make change.

      I hope he recovers quickly. One of the best assets a country can have is someone with intimate knowledge of how awful things are, who has the power to make change.

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    1. Deimos
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      Don't keep posting comments like this.

      Don't keep posting comments like this.

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