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Arcades, churches and laundromats: A trucker’s haven on the precipice of change

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    sharpstick
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    There is not a whole lot of information in this article to back up the claim that services are disappearing. It is mostly an explanation of what the trucker life is like and then a conjecture that...

    There is not a whole lot of information in this article to back up the claim that services are disappearing. It is mostly an explanation of what the trucker life is like and then a conjecture that if automated, self-driving trucks become more common things in the industry will change. No examples of any services that have closed down.

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    1. cfabbro
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      They never claimed they are disappearing, merely that they’re at risk of that. The article is not really about that though, despite the headline. And yeah, it’s actually just a photojournalist’s...

      claim that services are disappearing

      They never claimed they are disappearing, merely that they’re at risk of that. The article is not really about that though, despite the headline. And yeah, it’s actually just a photojournalist’s glimpse into the world of long-haul trucking, showcasing the difficulties drivers face, and the adaptations they have had to make to survive. Hence my posting this in ~life, not ~finance.

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      Akir
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      To be honest, I saw that first photo of the guy with the huge mole and I honestly thought that the New York Times was trying to pull a joke. I've met a lot of truckers over the years and I...

      To be honest, I saw that first photo of the guy with the huge mole and I honestly thought that the New York Times was trying to pull a joke.

      I've met a lot of truckers over the years and I honestly don't think that guy was a good representation of what they look like.

      Beyond anything, I can't help but think of anyone thinking that self-driving trucks are going to take away people's jobs any time soon as anything but a joke. As much effort is being spent on self-driving cars right now, they keep proving again and again to be unreliable and even unpredictable in some cases. I'm sure many of us thought that Tesla's autopilot was the most reliable self-driving car system on the market, and now we're hearing they may actually be the worst of the bunch. And in any case, do we really want to send tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of merchandise in an unguarded truck?

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        AugustusFerdinand
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        No one, for many decades if ever, is going to be okay with completely unmanned 40 ton vehicles. They're all going to require a driver/attendant for the long haul portions and an actual driver for...

        No one, for many decades if ever, is going to be okay with completely unmanned 40 ton vehicles. They're all going to require a driver/attendant for the long haul portions and an actual driver for navigating cities, warehouse lots, loading bays, ports, etc. No amount of automated driving technology can charge/refuel the truck, check the tires, load/unload cargo, clean, maintain, or any of the other dozens of tasks that truckers perform that people ignore/are ignorant of. Self-driving trucks aren't going to take away jobs. They will exchange jobs of one type to jobs of another.

        Self-driving trucks are infinitely more likely to be safer than self-driving cars. For one, this is what a self-driving truck looks like and is likely to continue to look like for the next couple of generations at least. Sensor/camera appendages that no self-driving car buyer would accept, because that is what it takes to actually make a self-driving car for the foreseeable future. Not what Ol' Musk-y tries to sell. Like it or not, the technology to actually accomplish self-driving reliably isn't an iPhone on wheels. Secondly, "self-driving" cars (e.g. Tesla and other smart cruise control vehicles) are largely driven by zero-personal-responsibility consumers that don't really care what happens and will always point fingers elsewhere first. Driving isn't their occupation, it's a necessity. Drivers/attendants of self-driving trucks can and will be held liable for their actions/inaction as it's their job to, for lack of a better word/brevity, care.

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          1. AugustusFerdinand
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            Yep, I've seen that Tom Scott video, the idea is absolutely brilliant, would damn near solve the entire idea of charging infrastructure for 18 wheelers as plopping streetview into damn near any...

            Yep, I've seen that Tom Scott video, the idea is absolutely brilliant, would damn near solve the entire idea of charging infrastructure for 18 wheelers as plopping streetview into damn near any spot in the middle of nowhere along interstates shows powerlines right next to the road or within an acceptable distance to run the overhead lines, is a known technology used by light rail across the country, and would be relatively easy and cost effective to implement.

            Of course, it's for all of those reason that it'll never happen in the US.

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