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Michelle Obama launches podcast with her brother Craig Robinson

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  1. [2]
    cfabbro
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    Links: https://highergroundmedia.com/podcasts-archive/imowithmichelle-craig https://www.imopod.com/ Trailer video on YouTube (premieres in 14 hours): (Official Trailer) IMO with Michelle Obama &...
    3 votes
  2. [16]
    BartHarleyJarvis
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    Are these podcasts going to appeal to anyone outside of the most hard-line blue no matter who voters?

    Are these podcasts going to appeal to anyone outside of the most hard-line blue no matter who voters?

    2 votes
    1. boxer_dogs_dance
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      According to her autobiography, Michelle Obama came close to telling Barack not to run for office when he first broached the subject. She has made many statements that she personally hates...

      According to her autobiography, Michelle Obama came close to telling Barack not to run for office when he first broached the subject. She has made many statements that she personally hates politics. Her recent book the Light We Carry focused on personal resilience and grit and related life lessons.

      So maybe? She's not a wonk like Ezra Klein. She is a lawyer, a mom and a former first lady.

      6 votes
    2. [14]
      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      I don't think it's a political podcast?

      I don't think it's a political podcast?

      5 votes
      1. [8]
        BartHarleyJarvis
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        "Thoughtful conversations about life" from a former first lady who is always the subject of rumors around running for some form of office isn't exactly apolitical. Especially given the current...

        "Thoughtful conversations about life" from a former first lady who is always the subject of rumors around running for some form of office isn't exactly apolitical. Especially given the current circumstances where Democrats and political pundits have made a big deal of the podcast gap.

        1 vote
        1. [5]
          cfabbro
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          The longer trailer description certainly doesn't sound very political: And the guests shown in the trailer and revealed so far don't seem very political in nature either: Tyler Perry (director),...

          The longer trailer description certainly doesn't sound very political:

          Michelle Obama and her big brother Craig Robinson bring their unique experiences and candid perspectives to a range of personal dilemmas, from the everyday to the existential. Each week, they’re joined by a special guest to tackle audience questions with practical advice, terrific stories, and plenty of laughs. From dating and relationships to parenting and financial planning, IMO sees the iconic First Lady at her most relaxed and honest. This podcast will leave you laughing, reflecting, and feeling more prepared to tackle life’s challenges. Join the conversation and submit your questions at imopod.com!

          And the guests shown in the trailer and revealed so far don't seem very political in nature either:

          Tyler Perry (director), Seth Rogen (actor), Julia Louis-Dreyfus (actress), Issa Rae (actress), Jay Shetty (life coach), Keke Palmer (singer/actress), Tracee Ellis Ross (actress), Abby Wambach (soccer player) and her wife Glennon Doyle (author), Elaine Welteroth (Teen Vogue editor-in-chief), Angie Martinez (actress, rapper, radio show host), Dwyane Wade (NBA player) and his wife Gabrielle Union (actress), Logan Ury (director of relationship science at Hinge), and Brian Chesky (Airbnb CEO).

          So I think you might be reading way more political intent behind this than it actually has.

          8 votes
          1. [4]
            BartHarleyJarvis
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            So this is all just a coincidence and not part of the broader efforts to expand the dem's appeal to a wider audience via podcasts? I get that it's not an overtly political podcast like the crooked...

            So this is all just a coincidence and not part of the broader efforts to expand the dem's appeal to a wider audience via podcasts? I get that it's not an overtly political podcast like the crooked media podcasts, but thats kind of the point? The Joe Rogan Experience and Theo Von's podcast aren't exactly political podcasts and neither are the hundreds of other lifestyle podcasts that played a role in pushing the country to the right. I don't think it's a bad thing, but I have a hard time believing it's not a strategic political move since the whole podcast thing has been brought up a lot in the wake of the election and now we're seeing Democrats all over the country doing podcasts and going on sports radio.

            In any case, it can't be worse than Gavin Newsom's podcast.

            1 vote
            1. [3]
              cfabbro
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              Given the clearly very high production values seen in the trailer, and the fame levels of the guests (who likely have incredibly busy schedules so need to be booked well ahead of time), I highly...

              Given the clearly very high production values seen in the trailer, and the fame levels of the guests (who likely have incredibly busy schedules so need to be booked well ahead of time), I highly doubt this podcast was thrown together as quickly as you're suggesting it was... as if only done in response to Trump winning. Especially since they included loads of clips from upcoming episodes in the trailer, so they have obviously already been filmed, and likely filmed many many months ago.

              And this isn't Michelle's first foray into podcasting either. She made The Michelle Obama Podcast in 2020-2022 and Michelle Obama: The Light Podcast in 2023. So I don't get why everyone is all of sudden being so fucking cynical about this one, as if this is new territory for her and was only created in a desperate attempt to counteract Joe Rogan, or serve as her entry into a political career.

              p.s. Gavin Newsom's new podcast (which I actually listened to the whole first episode of and commented on) I can 100% believe is just a pathetic attempt by him to grow his political career, especially by appealing to more people on the right. But Michelle Obama has actually podcasted before, and she has also been pretty consistent over the years in vocalizing her dislike of politics, and lack of desire to be involved in it. So I am much more inclined to take her at her word that podcasting is just something she enjoys doing, and so it has no secret political agenda behind it.

              3 votes
              1. [2]
                BartHarleyJarvis
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                You know what, you made some great points. It's hard not to view this cynically given everything I'm seeing in that sphere, but given what you pointed out this probably is coincidental timing. I...

                And this isn't Michelle's first foray into podcasting either. She made The Michelle Obama Podcast in 2020-2022 and Michelle Obama: The Light Podcast in 2023. So I don't get why everyone is all of sudden being so fucking cynical about this one, as if this is new territory for her and was only created in a desperate attempt to counteract Joe Rogan, or serve as her entry into a political career.

                You know what, you made some great points. It's hard not to view this cynically given everything I'm seeing in that sphere, but given what you pointed out this probably is coincidental timing. I still think there are motivations that extend beyond Michelle Obama wanting to grow her brand as a lifestyle media personality, but you're right, this wasn't whipped up as part of the shallow and desperate attempt to counteract Joe Rogan & co. that we're seeing from other dem figures.

                3 votes
        2. rosco
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          I think a lot of folks like Michele Obama, including centrists and independents. I wouldn't be surprised if she has pretty wide appeal.

          I think a lot of folks like Michele Obama, including centrists and independents. I wouldn't be surprised if she has pretty wide appeal.

          6 votes
        3. slade
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          It's apolitical if it's apolitical. Right? Do you mean that it should be political by nature of who she is, that it implicitly is political by nature of who she is, or that it mostly likely will...

          It's apolitical if it's apolitical. Right?

          Do you mean that it should be political by nature of who she is, that it implicitly is political by nature of who she is, or that it mostly likely will be by nature of who she is?

          6 votes
      2. [5]
        SloMoMonday
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        To look at it in a more cynical way: I think she's trying to fill that role of "Joe Rogan for the left". Isn't there another Democratic politican thats doing their own podcast too and I'm sure...

        To look at it in a more cynical way: I think she's trying to fill that role of "Joe Rogan for the left". Isn't there another Democratic politican thats doing their own podcast too and I'm sure it's only a matter of time before 90% of podcast platforms are just stand-up comics and politicians.

        But my fear is that a lot of these shows will skip the part that made Joe Rogan (and podcasting in general) popular to begin with. The time when it was truly independent and free to make whatever they wanted. Right now there is a palpable profit and political incentive to sell crap products and crap ideas that don't help anyone.

        And I'm sure Mrs Obama will put on a good program, what changes when it hits its stride and the show becomes a profit center. Will the production properly vet sponsors or resist the allure of marketing trash products for insane cash amounts.

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          DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Eh, I'm not sure that she's trying to do anything other than a podcast. I could certainly be wrong, but deciding she's trying to be Joe Rogan for the left before the show airs without really any...

          Eh, I'm not sure that she's trying to do anything other than a podcast. I could certainly be wrong, but deciding she's trying to be Joe Rogan for the left before the show airs without really any indication is weird to me. Everyone has a podcast these days, I just don't get why this must be a big political move

          10 votes
          1. [2]
            SloMoMonday
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            I thought about it a bit more and looking into Michelle Obama's history and media company, people are probably right about her lack of presidential aspirations. She's a great host and...

            I thought about it a bit more and looking into Michelle Obama's history and media company, people are probably right about her lack of presidential aspirations. She's a great host and conversationalist and she'd probably have had a popular weekly radio show back in the day. But the US is currently a place where opinions on basic biological facts is the single issue for some voters and the president is shilling cars people don't want; so the barometer for what is political is pretty messed up. And after the election there were pundits rabid about the fact that Harris did not do the podcast rounds and that the Democrats didn't have their own Rogan to platform them. With the proximity to that Gavin Newsom podcast and the statements made on it, it starts hinting at a stupid trend. And I was cynical about the whole thing because I don't think establishment Democrats really get new media. Especially after the overpriced, milk-toast Call Her Daddy/Harris interview and some of the strategies leading up to the election.

            Based on how I've seen corporate marketing go, I was assuming a campaign that has a strong white guy work to make inroads with the "traditional white-guy crowd" and Newsom seemed primed after the LA fires. Then you have Michelle tasked to win over woman and every minority group. And a few Limousine Liberal influencers use leftist rhetoric to nudge younger people to the democrats, appeasing them with bare minimum socialist policies that doesn't step on too many donors toes.

            But looking at the Obama's media company, I don't think that's the case. While not everything there is strictly "political", its clear that they care about social issues and communicate that in the works they produce. And in spite of the many flaws of the Obama administration, they do seem to have the best interests of Americans in mind and would prefer to conduct themselves in a respectable way. The company is literally called Higher Ground Productions. You can really see this philosophy it in their last big movie, Leave the World Behind. Its overtly political about how the country is set to blow and very evocative in presenting an assault on US infrastructure. They're even open about valid reasons people have to doubt the government. But they can't stand to actually call any specific thing out.

            Regardless, there's still a ton of weirdness happening around this production. Makes me sure that this is a play around Joe Rogan's podcast dominance. Rogan is practically the unofficial Press Secretary at this point with a direct line to the president and driving of a lot of extremist, conspiratorial and scam misinformation. No one even remotely tied to politics is "just starting a podcast" right now.
            There's also the fact that this is Spotify exclusive which is interesting given that platform exclusivity seemed to be dead in the last few years. Almost all the old exclusives are back to full spectrum broadcasting and focusing on production/financing agreements for added revenue, so it's strange to see a deal like this. With the way the administration is going it's clear Trump and his circle are radioactive, Rogan especially. Maybe Spotify is trying to distract from the fact that they gave him a big bag of money and biggest platform on earth to do his thing. And a respectable, wholesome and non-problematic voice could come across as balancing the scales.

            1 vote
            1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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              Some of the things you find weird, I don't. Like Spotify exclusivity, not that weird especially for a big name. And I don't think Spotify is covering up Joe Rogan, they don't seem upset about...

              Some of the things you find weird, I don't. Like Spotify exclusivity, not that weird especially for a big name. And I don't think Spotify is covering up Joe Rogan, they don't seem upset about that. And yeah people do "just start podcasts" (mostly for money) and I listen to lefty podcasts all the time, so I don't see an issue with who understands them. (I'm on team "the left doesn't need a Rogan, Rogan sucks")

              (Also Newsom has been unappealing as a candidate before his current turn)

              I just think it's annoying to ignore the literal, consistent words of the woman in question based on starting a podcast, not based on her suddenly suggesting she'd run and i think it's weirder to see people pretending that "everyone loves Michelle" given she was literally accused of being a man by the vitriolic right wing on a regular basis in a way that was bonus racism on the transphobia. And that kind of rhetoric is more acceptable now not less.

              This all feels like wishful thinking to me - we want the perfect candidate to come save us instead of working to take back the House in the next midterm by running candidates in every single district or by going to town halls or by protesting outside our reps' offices.

              I won't be listening to this since it's a Spotify original.

              If she comes out and hints or states she's running then great I'll assume she's running or this is part of a huge political op but not til then

              3 votes
        2. cfabbro
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          Right now? That incentive has always existed in podcasting. Rogan has been promoting pseudo-scientific / borderline scam "health" products ("nootropics" chewing gum, CBD oil as a panacea, dubious...

          Right now there is a palpable profit and political incentive to sell crap products and crap ideas that don't help anyone.

          Right now? That incentive has always existed in podcasting. Rogan has been promoting pseudo-scientific / borderline scam "health" products ("nootropics" chewing gum, CBD oil as a panacea, dubious quality supplements, "bulletproof" MCT oil coffee, stem cell injections, etc) and genuinely dangerous conspiracy theory ideas for ages.

          6 votes
  3. [4]
    PelagiusSeptim
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    Always excited for a moment then disappointed when I immediately remember it's the other Craig Robinson. Not to diss him though, don't know enough about the guy to say he'd be bad on a podcast!

    Always excited for a moment then disappointed when I immediately remember it's the other Craig Robinson. Not to diss him though, don't know enough about the guy to say he'd be bad on a podcast!

    16 votes
    1. [2]
      lou
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      I thought it was Craig Ferguson. That would've been interesting.

      I thought it was Craig Ferguson. That would've been interesting.

      5 votes
      1. jtfriendly
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        So, Michelle. Mouth organ, argument, or awkward pause?

        So, Michelle. Mouth organ, argument, or awkward pause?

        1 vote
    2. Barrelephants
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      I was also a bit disappointed. Maybe they'll have him on as a guest? I'll be listening either way.

      I was also a bit disappointed. Maybe they'll have him on as a guest? I'll be listening either way.

      4 votes
  4. [11]
    drannex
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    Possible planning for a 2028 run it seems. Good choice.

    Possible planning for a 2028 run it seems. Good choice.

    1. [3]
      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      She's always been explicitly opposed to running for office herself.

      She's always been explicitly opposed to running for office herself.

      9 votes
      1. [2]
        drannex
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        Even better, if she does that is a lot of ammo of "I didn't want to run, but I had to". I feel that either her or Jon Stewart running are the only people who could just absolutely sweep the...

        Even better, if she does that is a lot of ammo of "I didn't want to run, but I had to". I feel that either her or Jon Stewart running are the only people who could just absolutely sweep the election, and be decent.

        A reluctant leader is often better than those who are desperate for the power.

        3 votes
        1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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          I don't wish for the return to "she's a man" "jokes" either for politics or for her wellbeing. Neither of them would be a good president just because they're smart people who deeply don't want the...

          I don't wish for the return to "she's a man" "jokes" either for politics or for her wellbeing.

          Neither of them would be a good president just because they're smart people who deeply don't want the job. I also hate the "oh person must be doing a political move" when there's zero evidence for it.

          I've been on team Leave Michelle Alone from harassing her to run since her husband left office

          11 votes
    2. [7]
      BeardyHat
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      Honestly, let's not. I like her, I've voted for a woman for President twice now, but it turns out we're more explicitly sexist than racist in this country and the general populace just doesn't...

      Honestly, let's not.

      I like her, I've voted for a woman for President twice now, but it turns out we're more explicitly sexist than racist in this country and the general populace just doesn't seem to be ready.

      7 votes
      1. [6]
        rosco
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        I was talking to my parents last election cycle and said Michele could do it in a way Harris couldn't. Michele seems authentic, kind, and strong. I think she would actually have a very good chance...

        I was talking to my parents last election cycle and said Michele could do it in a way Harris couldn't. Michele seems authentic, kind, and strong. I think she would actually have a very good chance of winning.

        1 vote
        1. [5]
          BeardyHat
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          I think Michelle would be excellent. I liked Kamala as well. I know she was basically a continuation of Biden, but I was very happy and secure with the Biden Administration. Kamala seemed to have...

          I think Michelle would be excellent.

          I liked Kamala as well. I know she was basically a continuation of Biden, but I was very happy and secure with the Biden Administration. Kamala seemed to have an energy about her and I was stoked to vote for her.

          The thing is, men (of which I am), just won't vote for a woman. We've seen it twice now. I'd love to have our first woman President, but I'd rather have milquetoast white man again if it means we can assure some sanity in government.

          6 votes
          1. [4]
            rosco
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            I have a slightly different take. It felt like Harris was thrust upon us. It wasn't Biden, we didn't select her, we should have had a primary. To all the folks who say we would have lost the...

            I have a slightly different take. It felt like Harris was thrust upon us. It wasn't Biden, we didn't select her, we should have had a primary. To all the folks who say we would have lost the incumbency boost, we lost anyway. And in many ways Harris also had more conservative beliefs than Biden. Her brother in law/head of legal for her campaign was head of Uber's legal department - which is decidedly anti-labor. Her stance on crypto was similar to Trump's. She was a "tough on crime" prosecutor in SF known for throwing the book at folks. She was a part of the Biden presidency, and while I think it would have been mostly a continuation, I think highlights for the average person, like Lina Khan, would have seen the axe. She didn't appeal to me as a progressive lefty and couldn't stir the racist/sexist folks. She wasn't well liked, she was just there.

            I think Michele has done a pretty good job at being broadly likable. She tackled popular objectives during her time as first lady - health and nutrition - and is just super charismatic. I would love to see Michele in office. My older, more conservative family members love Michele and would love to see her in office. Outside of the true bigots, I think she is well regarded. I also think Warren would have been an amazing candidate. One that would have appealed to the fringy folks like me and also the more centrists with her extensive background in financial policy and oversight. We have awesome candidates. But the DNC consistently rolls out conservative party players and absolutely guts folks with more progressive politics. Maybe with Michele it could be different.

            I absolutely think we can get a woman president, but we need the ones championed to be chosen by us in a primary (Harris) and not one that is universally disliked, even by her own party (Clinton).

            8 votes
            1. gary
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              +1 that Harris losing is not an indicator on whether America is ready to elect a female president yet. Maybe it's not, but Harris didn't prove that. Nor did Clinton. As for Warren, she wasn't even...

              +1 that Harris losing is not an indicator on whether America is ready to elect a female president yet. Maybe it's not, but Harris didn't prove that. Nor did Clinton.

              As for Warren, she wasn't even that liked in the 2020 primaries. She came in third in her own home state.

              6 votes
            2. [2]
              BeardyHat
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              I don't at all disagree that no one really selected Kamala, but it's felt that way in every election I've voted in for the last 22 years. I never would have picked any of the candidates that...

              I don't at all disagree that no one really selected Kamala, but it's felt that way in every election I've voted in for the last 22 years. I never would have picked any of the candidates that ultimately won the primary.

              I'm not a political junkie, analyst or even all that smart when it comes down to it, but it seems plain to see that both times women have run, they've had pretty sizable disadvantages amongst male voters.

              Looking at some of the demos here, we can see some analysis of the ground Kamala lost from Biden.

              https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-06/how-5-key-demographic-groups-helped-trump-win-the-2024-election

              Even here from 2016, we can see similarities, in fact Trumps share is only higher amongst Black Men in 2024

              https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/

              I come from a Conservative family, everyday growing up it was made apparent just how sexist and racist they are. I can't say if they're more one than the other, but needless to say, none of it surprises me. Even with Michelle potentially being an amazing candidate, I can see how she would be demonized amongst my parents and their generation.

              I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

              2 votes
              1. rosco
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                That's great insight. I do live in a bit of a bubble, so it's possible I'm way off base.

                That's great insight. I do live in a bit of a bubble, so it's possible I'm way off base.

  5. Grayscail
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    That was not the Craig Robinson I was thinking of.

    That was not the Craig Robinson I was thinking of.

    4 votes