People who wait until they're 35 to start hating their jobs either never read Marx and Engels when they were younger, or didn't read Marx and Engels carefully enough.
People who wait until they're 35 to start hating their jobs either never read Marx and Engels when they were younger, or didn't read Marx and Engels carefully enough.
My parents were employed under the product of Marxism and hated their jobs and lives so much that they left everything behind to start over basically anywhere else. All this happened while they...
My parents were employed under the product of Marxism and hated their jobs and lives so much that they left everything behind to start over basically anywhere else. All this happened while they were in their twenties.
Before this starts a capitalism vs. socialism argument, why does it have to be binary? Haven't we seen from the failings of these extremist ideologies that neither are perfect? I mean both concepts are antique at this point. How about the Social market economy as the evolution of both?
edit: And in regards to the article, I would say people start to hate not just their jobs, but become disenchanted with their lives after 35, because getting old pretty much sucks.
I'm tempted to suggest that you go directly to the source and read the Communist Manifesto, but that was written in the first half of the 19th century and might not be the easiest of reads. I'll...
I'm tempted to suggest that you go directly to the source and read the Communist Manifesto, but that was written in the first half of the 19th century and might not be the easiest of reads. I'll have to return to this comment when I'm at home and can dig up a "Marxism 101" site.
People only hate their jobs if they are being undervalued and/or are not having their own concerns about work taken seriously. That's all there is to it. If you want happy employees, pay them...
People only hate their jobs if they are being undervalued and/or are not having their own concerns about work taken seriously. That's all there is to it. If you want happy employees, pay them well, avoid micro-managing them, listen to what they have to say and take that into account moving forward with the business.
It's a little more complicated than that. I'm well paid, my boss isn't up my ass all the time, he listens to my concerns, and I'm still not happy because no matter where I go or what I do, my job...
It's a little more complicated than that. I'm well paid, my boss isn't up my ass all the time, he listens to my concerns, and I'm still not happy because no matter where I go or what I do, my job is basically to make rich assholes even richer. That's not something you can fix at an individual, team, or even organizational level. I'm not happy because I know the truth: I am compelled by circumstance and previous decisions to sell my labor to survive, and I get pennies on every dollar of value I create as my wage.
If that's how you feel, you'll be unhappy until you go into business for yourself, and even then, you'll feel guilty about exploiting the people who work for you.
If that's how you feel, you'll be unhappy until you go into business for yourself, and even then, you'll feel guilty about exploiting the people who work for you.
It would be better for him if he looked at it as compensating those who would otherwise not have the skill or means yet to make their own jobs, without any of the risk or stress associated with...
It would be better for him if he looked at it as compensating those who would otherwise not have the skill or means yet to make their own jobs, without any of the risk or stress associated with starting a business and possibly losing everything instead of just the job.
I love coding and computer science stuff, but this is why part of me is dreading starting my software engineering career. I know I'll be well compensated, but most of the industry seems to be...
I love coding and computer science stuff, but this is why part of me is dreading starting my software engineering career. I know I'll be well compensated, but most of the industry seems to be about making rich assholes (either clients or your own company's shareholders) richer.
If you are unhappy then change your situation. You may need to make drastic decisions to improve your situation. It can be done, but it isn't easy. In my experience it is worth the risks, but then...
If you are unhappy then change your situation. You may need to make drastic decisions to improve your situation. It can be done, but it isn't easy.
In my experience it is worth the risks, but then again I have been moderately successful. I'm still working for the profit of others, but I'm happy in my work, the company policy, my colleagues, my lifestyle and work / life balance.
It's not about whether or not your work enriches others. It's about if your compensation is good enough to allow you to do what you want to do. You are the only person who can change your situation.
I couldn't afford college when I was younger so I jumped into tech at 18. I hated my well paying career by 26... so I quit and found a new company that excited me. I started getting burnt out in...
I couldn't afford college when I was younger so I jumped into tech at 18. I hated my well paying career by 26... so I quit and found a new company that excited me. I started getting burnt out in that industry by my early 30's so I left to find a similar company in a different industry. I'm in my mid 30's now and i'm very happy with my current job. I'd say the only difference between me now and me then is that I am sometimes less likely to argue and make waves, I like to put my head down and get work done instead of worrying about office drama, i'm more calm and analytical about my decisions. If I ever felt like my workplace didn't excite me or I was burnt out I would take steps to fix that, like i've done any other time in my life. I don't blame my unhappiness on uncontrollable thing's like age.
Jean Prince was 50 when she started working for a U.K. tech company near Cambridge as a technical author, writing software documentation. “I felt extremely lucky,” she said.
But she wasn’t happy.
“The workplace has become more impersonal and tougher,” she said. “Everyone is performance-managed to death.” She felt underappreciated and unloved.
It sounds like she chose the wrong field to work in and now she want's to change the job requirements instead of her profession. There's a reason why so many doctors and lawyers drop out when they learn what's really required of them.
I find it interesting that they are claiming older workers have a harder time being happy at work than Millennials , when every other study or article I have seen on the subject tend to point...
I find it interesting that they are claiming older workers have a harder time being happy at work than Millennials , when every other study or article I have seen on the subject tend to point towards Millennials being unhappier with higher rates of mental health issues than the generations above them.
I personally would view lack of mental health issues of the older people because they are stubborn and god dammit there is nothing the hell wrong with them. Us millennials are more open to treatment.
I personally would view lack of mental health issues of the older people because they are stubborn and god dammit there is nothing the hell wrong with them. Us millennials are more open to treatment.
There’s a way to combat the ennui, Cooper said, but it takes effort. Making work buddies can improve the situation, even if it can be hard to find time for happy-hour drinks. Refocus on a personal project at work and make that your passion, he said.
I don't know. Making friends you can joke with helps a little. What works for me is choosing my attitude and just programming my brain to look at things a certain way. I got asked to stay late out...
I don't know. Making friends you can joke with helps a little. What works for me is choosing my attitude and just programming my brain to look at things a certain way. I got asked to stay late out of no where on the 3rd and knew it would be late late, but it's what the job calls for. So I just settled in and didn't even think about time or going home. Just looked at it like, "I am here and that's that." Like there was no where else to be or nothing that could be done. Time flew by.
Then on the 9th same thing happened, but it wasn't as late.
What is getting to me is I have been working more lately just because things have come up, so I have less time to take care of personal things and it has been raining non stop so on what little down time I do get I can't mow or do anything I need to outside. I have piles of tree limbs everywhere and projects that are 2/3 of the way done. And all that is starting to bug me.
But I don't think I'll ever hate my job because this is the only job I ever got treated well at and I know how dark things really can be.
I had a really shit job recently - but I didn't mind going in because I had some of those "work friends". People that I liked chatting with and since leaving that job we still hang out sometimes...
I had a really shit job recently - but I didn't mind going in because I had some of those "work friends". People that I liked chatting with and since leaving that job we still hang out sometimes and it's a good thing. They are still my friends even though I don't work there and see them as often. That makes a difference. It's very different from going to work with your friends too - like when a buddy gets you a job - different dynamic occurs when you make friends with work people vs going to work at a place that a friend works.
I stopped worrying about the company after enough buy-outs and lay-off etc ... they don't care about me why should I care about them? What I learned to focus on was the team and people I worked with directly. The people I saw everyday be it cube mates or the folks at the cafeteria. It made work less about the job and more about the people and that was easier to manage. So "work buddies" is definitely something that can improve your work environment.
You're certainly right. What I was referring to was the tone of the article implying that this was all there was to be done. No. The whole idea of providing some sort of job simply so people can...
You're certainly right. What I was referring to was the tone of the article implying that this was all there was to be done. No. The whole idea of providing some sort of job simply so people can plug into the economy and collect their increasingly small slice of the pie is becoming outdated. Of course, this is exactly the dynamic that has created unrest, wars, and revolutions in the past. The fact that in the 21st Century our governments are too stupid to realize this and are pushing us toward upheaval is what is lame.
A few people understand and realize that our civilization is too interdependent on a global scale for the have's to continually shaft the have-nots. And I admit, it's a slippery vague concept that you only see by hanging around for awhile as I have. Of course, I don't have a solution for the world's problems, but the fact that we're being told to just make do with 'work buddies' is lame.
People who wait until they're 35 to start hating their jobs either never read Marx and Engels when they were younger, or didn't read Marx and Engels carefully enough.
My parents were employed under the product of Marxism and hated their jobs and lives so much that they left everything behind to start over basically anywhere else. All this happened while they were in their twenties.
Before this starts a capitalism vs. socialism argument, why does it have to be binary? Haven't we seen from the failings of these extremist ideologies that neither are perfect? I mean both concepts are antique at this point. How about the Social market economy as the evolution of both?
edit: And in regards to the article, I would say people start to hate not just their jobs, but become disenchanted with their lives after 35, because getting old pretty much sucks.
Where do you recommend starting? I have no understanding of either person's philosophy.
I'm tempted to suggest that you go directly to the source and read the Communist Manifesto, but that was written in the first half of the 19th century and might not be the easiest of reads. I'll have to return to this comment when I'm at home and can dig up a "Marxism 101" site.
People only hate their jobs if they are being undervalued and/or are not having their own concerns about work taken seriously. That's all there is to it. If you want happy employees, pay them well, avoid micro-managing them, listen to what they have to say and take that into account moving forward with the business.
It's a little more complicated than that. I'm well paid, my boss isn't up my ass all the time, he listens to my concerns, and I'm still not happy because no matter where I go or what I do, my job is basically to make rich assholes even richer. That's not something you can fix at an individual, team, or even organizational level. I'm not happy because I know the truth: I am compelled by circumstance and previous decisions to sell my labor to survive, and I get pennies on every dollar of value I create as my wage.
If that's how you feel, you'll be unhappy until you go into business for yourself, and even then, you'll feel guilty about exploiting the people who work for you.
It would be better for him if he looked at it as compensating those who would otherwise not have the skill or means yet to make their own jobs, without any of the risk or stress associated with starting a business and possibly losing everything instead of just the job.
I've come to accept that happiness is fleeting and comes in doses so small they aren't worth the fucking effort.
This sounds like a much larger problem than just your work situation.
There's no treatment for demoralization.
Amen, brother. Working through the same state of mind about work, myself.
I love coding and computer science stuff, but this is why part of me is dreading starting my software engineering career. I know I'll be well compensated, but most of the industry seems to be about making rich assholes (either clients or your own company's shareholders) richer.
If you are unhappy then change your situation. You may need to make drastic decisions to improve your situation. It can be done, but it isn't easy.
In my experience it is worth the risks, but then again I have been moderately successful. I'm still working for the profit of others, but I'm happy in my work, the company policy, my colleagues, my lifestyle and work / life balance.
It's not about whether or not your work enriches others. It's about if your compensation is good enough to allow you to do what you want to do. You are the only person who can change your situation.
I couldn't afford college when I was younger so I jumped into tech at 18. I hated my well paying career by 26... so I quit and found a new company that excited me. I started getting burnt out in that industry by my early 30's so I left to find a similar company in a different industry. I'm in my mid 30's now and i'm very happy with my current job. I'd say the only difference between me now and me then is that I am sometimes less likely to argue and make waves, I like to put my head down and get work done instead of worrying about office drama, i'm more calm and analytical about my decisions. If I ever felt like my workplace didn't excite me or I was burnt out I would take steps to fix that, like i've done any other time in my life. I don't blame my unhappiness on uncontrollable thing's like age.
It sounds like she chose the wrong field to work in and now she want's to change the job requirements instead of her profession. There's a reason why so many doctors and lawyers drop out when they learn what's really required of them.
I find it interesting that they are claiming older workers have a harder time being happy at work than Millennials , when every other study or article I have seen on the subject tend to point towards Millennials being unhappier with higher rates of mental health issues than the generations above them.
Millennials are currently around 20 - 40 so this kind of makes sense? The elder millennials are getting disgruntled.
I personally would view lack of mental health issues of the older people because they are stubborn and god dammit there is nothing the hell wrong with them. Us millennials are more open to treatment.
Lame.
Not if those after-work drinks lead to you and your buddies forming a union and organizing your workplace on the down low.
Shhhhh they will hear...
Good point!
I don't know. Making friends you can joke with helps a little. What works for me is choosing my attitude and just programming my brain to look at things a certain way. I got asked to stay late out of no where on the 3rd and knew it would be late late, but it's what the job calls for. So I just settled in and didn't even think about time or going home. Just looked at it like, "I am here and that's that." Like there was no where else to be or nothing that could be done. Time flew by.
Then on the 9th same thing happened, but it wasn't as late.
What is getting to me is I have been working more lately just because things have come up, so I have less time to take care of personal things and it has been raining non stop so on what little down time I do get I can't mow or do anything I need to outside. I have piles of tree limbs everywhere and projects that are 2/3 of the way done. And all that is starting to bug me.
But I don't think I'll ever hate my job because this is the only job I ever got treated well at and I know how dark things really can be.
I had a really shit job recently - but I didn't mind going in because I had some of those "work friends". People that I liked chatting with and since leaving that job we still hang out sometimes and it's a good thing. They are still my friends even though I don't work there and see them as often. That makes a difference. It's very different from going to work with your friends too - like when a buddy gets you a job - different dynamic occurs when you make friends with work people vs going to work at a place that a friend works.
I stopped worrying about the company after enough buy-outs and lay-off etc ... they don't care about me why should I care about them? What I learned to focus on was the team and people I worked with directly. The people I saw everyday be it cube mates or the folks at the cafeteria. It made work less about the job and more about the people and that was easier to manage. So "work buddies" is definitely something that can improve your work environment.
You're certainly right. What I was referring to was the tone of the article implying that this was all there was to be done. No. The whole idea of providing some sort of job simply so people can plug into the economy and collect their increasingly small slice of the pie is becoming outdated. Of course, this is exactly the dynamic that has created unrest, wars, and revolutions in the past. The fact that in the 21st Century our governments are too stupid to realize this and are pushing us toward upheaval is what is lame.
A few people understand and realize that our civilization is too interdependent on a global scale for the have's to continually shaft the have-nots. And I admit, it's a slippery vague concept that you only see by hanging around for awhile as I have. Of course, I don't have a solution for the world's problems, but the fact that we're being told to just make do with 'work buddies' is lame.
I'm glad you're managing so well.