If you wanted to make a socially irresponsible movie, this theme would be a good candidate. The only way it could be more socially irresponsible is if the producers waited until November 6th for a...
If you wanted to make a socially irresponsible movie, this theme would be a good candidate.
The only way it could be more socially irresponsible is if the producers waited until November 6th for a release date.
Idk, it's just a movie. Besides, California and Texas in an alliance? While I think Californians and Texans are a lot more alike than they think they are, at least politically and stereotypically,...
Idk, it's just a movie. Besides, California and Texas in an alliance? While I think Californians and Texans are a lot more alike than they think they are, at least politically and stereotypically, they are pretty opposite. That helps make it more make-believe.
Besides, who hasn't thought of what a civil war in the modern age in the US would look like? I certainly have. And from the preview, this is how I imagine it. Which is, of course, terrifying.
Maybe it'll serve as a reminder to some that war isn't fun and cool and awesome, especially when it's at home. Especially a civil war. It's easy to watch a war thousands of miles away from the comfort of home; I can't imagine it's as easy when you're home is in the middle of it.
The simple movie explanation would be that there was a state-level coup d'état. It's not like there wouldn't be insurgencies all over both states in this scenario.
The simple movie explanation would be that there was a state-level coup d'état. It's not like there wouldn't be insurgencies all over both states in this scenario.
That's a bit harsh after 2 minutes 23 seconds of trailer. And it's not like "alternate America" is a new subgenre or anything. I can't find many references quickly, but I know I have seen very...
That's a bit harsh after 2 minutes 23 seconds of trailer. And it's not like "alternate America" is a new subgenre or anything. I can't find many references quickly, but I know I have seen very similar things both in movies and TV. Isn't Far Cry 5 like that? Haven't The Walking Dead, Falling Skies, The Man in the High Castle, The Handmaid's Tale, and multiple episodes of the Star Trek franchise staged many versions and allegories of American civil war?
I can't imagine this movie will open any new territories... how impactful can it really be? How much impact does any movie have nowadays?
Not really, it’s A24 from the director of Men, so it probably going to be a horror movie. Also Cali and Texas working together lol. Then again there is a big portion of this country that live in a...
Not really, it’s A24 from the director of Men, so it probably going to be a horror movie.
Also Cali and Texas working together lol.
Then again there is a big portion of this country that live in a fantasy reality so they might take the wrong message from it.
I have to admit this response didn't sit well with me. But it did get me thinking. What is the social responsibility of movie makers and why do I care? I don't mean that in a provocative way, you...
If you wanted to make a socially irresponsible movie
I have to admit this response didn't sit well with me. But it did get me thinking.
What is the social responsibility of movie makers and why do I care? I don't mean that in a provocative way, you obviously have some thoughts on this and was hoping you could enlighten me.
From my perspective I don't expect anyone within the media industry to be socially responsible, like criticizing a musician for music I might find provocative. What am I missing?
I think most film and tv creatives are relatively responsible when it comes to media - certainly when it comes to large commercial productions. Not to say nobody ever does or says anything...
I think most film and tv creatives are relatively responsible when it comes to media - certainly when it comes to large commercial productions.
Not to say nobody ever does or says anything controversial. Of course they do, and that's a good thing.
I personally have never seen a movie that I thought was incredibly irresponsible, but I can imagine exactly the type of film that would cross that line. Here are some things that immediatley come to mind.
-A "civil war" style movie that focuses on current issues and heavily leans into conspiracy theories, election denial, etc. Imagine if the protagonists glorified violence and it was framed as "protecting America from fascism." I think this movie could be made in a way that would incite certain people and cause real-life violence.
-A crime show or movie that gives a detailed overview on how to make drugs or explosives. That would definitely be irresponsible.
-Shows glorifying suicide (suicide is contagious)
-Movies and shows emphasizing divides between religions and ethnic groups.
Not to say there aren't any movies that check some of these boxes to some extent, but think of the damage a movie could cause if someone really tried to stir things up. There are so many hot button issues in the world and people don't need a lot of convincing to get enraged.
Alex Garland has a great track record, and this looks promising. The only thing that stood out to me was California and Texas working together, I wonder if they are going to justify why they would...
Alex Garland has a great track record, and this looks promising.
The only thing that stood out to me was California and Texas working together, I wonder if they are going to justify why they would secede together or just gloss over it because the 2 of them together would be a credible threat.
The premise reminds me of a Quora answer I read years ago. Iirc this was picked up for a TV series but nothing else materialised after that one announcement. I couldn't find the answer on Quora...
The premise reminds me of a Quora answer I read years ago. Iirc this was picked up for a TV series but nothing else materialised after that one announcement.
I couldn't find the answer on Quora only the question
I’m a big fan of Alex Garland and I gotta say I’m a little surprised he’s making this movie. The trailer was vanilla and I didn’t see anything particularly visually interesting, which I also find...
I’m a big fan of Alex Garland and I gotta say I’m a little surprised he’s making this movie. The trailer was vanilla and I didn’t see anything particularly visually interesting, which I also find surprising for him. I’ll definitely see it but damn.
If you wanted to make a socially irresponsible movie, this theme would be a good candidate.
The only way it could be more socially irresponsible is if the producers waited until November 6th for a release date.
Idk, it's just a movie. Besides, California and Texas in an alliance? While I think Californians and Texans are a lot more alike than they think they are, at least politically and stereotypically, they are pretty opposite. That helps make it more make-believe.
Besides, who hasn't thought of what a civil war in the modern age in the US would look like? I certainly have. And from the preview, this is how I imagine it. Which is, of course, terrifying.
Maybe it'll serve as a reminder to some that war isn't fun and cool and awesome, especially when it's at home. Especially a civil war. It's easy to watch a war thousands of miles away from the comfort of home; I can't imagine it's as easy when you're home is in the middle of it.
The simple movie explanation would be that there was a state-level coup d'état. It's not like there wouldn't be insurgencies all over both states in this scenario.
That's a bit harsh after 2 minutes 23 seconds of trailer. And it's not like "alternate America" is a new subgenre or anything. I can't find many references quickly, but I know I have seen very similar things both in movies and TV. Isn't Far Cry 5 like that? Haven't The Walking Dead, Falling Skies, The Man in the High Castle, The Handmaid's Tale, and multiple episodes of the Star Trek franchise staged many versions and allegories of American civil war?
I can't imagine this movie will open any new territories... how impactful can it really be? How much impact does any movie have nowadays?
Not really, it’s A24 from the director of Men, so it probably going to be a horror movie.
Also Cali and Texas working together lol.
Then again there is a big portion of this country that live in a fantasy reality so they might take the wrong message from it.
I have to admit this response didn't sit well with me. But it did get me thinking.
What is the social responsibility of movie makers and why do I care? I don't mean that in a provocative way, you obviously have some thoughts on this and was hoping you could enlighten me.
From my perspective I don't expect anyone within the media industry to be socially responsible, like criticizing a musician for music I might find provocative. What am I missing?
I think most film and tv creatives are relatively responsible when it comes to media - certainly when it comes to large commercial productions.
Not to say nobody ever does or says anything controversial. Of course they do, and that's a good thing.
I personally have never seen a movie that I thought was incredibly irresponsible, but I can imagine exactly the type of film that would cross that line. Here are some things that immediatley come to mind.
-A "civil war" style movie that focuses on current issues and heavily leans into conspiracy theories, election denial, etc. Imagine if the protagonists glorified violence and it was framed as "protecting America from fascism." I think this movie could be made in a way that would incite certain people and cause real-life violence.
-A crime show or movie that gives a detailed overview on how to make drugs or explosives. That would definitely be irresponsible.
-Shows glorifying suicide (suicide is contagious)
-Movies and shows emphasizing divides between religions and ethnic groups.
Not to say there aren't any movies that check some of these boxes to some extent, but think of the damage a movie could cause if someone really tried to stir things up. There are so many hot button issues in the world and people don't need a lot of convincing to get enraged.
Alex Garland has a great track record, and this looks promising.
The only thing that stood out to me was California and Texas working together, I wonder if they are going to justify why they would secede together or just gloss over it because the 2 of them together would be a credible threat.
The premise reminds me of a Quora answer I read years ago. Iirc this was picked up for a TV series but nothing else materialised after that one announcement.
I couldn't find the answer on Quora only the question
Another website has published the answer with credit to author. This is worth a read if you've free time. Jon Davis's answer for - If every state of the USA declared war against each other, which would win?
I’m a big fan of Alex Garland and I gotta say I’m a little surprised he’s making this movie. The trailer was vanilla and I didn’t see anything particularly visually interesting, which I also find surprising for him. I’ll definitely see it but damn.