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BAFTA Film Awards: ‘Oppenheimer’ wins Best Film

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      stu2b50
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      Oppenheimer was by far the best film I watched last year, and probably up there in best films I’ve watched ever, AMA

      Oppenheimer was by far the best film I watched last year, and probably up there in best films I’ve watched ever, AMA

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        gianni
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        Much like the initial commenter, Oppenheimer was not even close for me—and I absolutely love Nolan. Have you seen Poor Things or Asteroid City? Those two movies blew me away in ways cinema hasn't...

        Much like the initial commenter, Oppenheimer was not even close for me—and I absolutely love Nolan.

        Have you seen Poor Things or Asteroid City? Those two movies blew me away in ways cinema hasn't been able to in a few years.

        10 votes
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        cloud_loud
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        Co-signed

        Co-signed

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        1. cfabbro
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          Thirded. It was easily the best movie of 2023 for me as well, although I didn't actually watch it until this year. ;) And I was totally captivated the whole way through it too... So much so that I...

          Thirded. It was easily the best movie of 2023 for me as well, although I didn't actually watch it until this year. ;) And I was totally captivated the whole way through it too... So much so that I genuinely couldn't believe 3 hours has passed by already once it finished.

          3 votes
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        chocobean
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        I only very recently watched it. Questions: Do you think (the character in the movie) Oppenheimer would understand his life to have been one of success? How do you think the character evaluates...

        I only very recently watched it.

        Questions:

        1. Do you think (the character in the movie) Oppenheimer would understand his life to have been one of success? How do you think the character evaluates his legacy?

        2. I only very recently watched the film, on a small screen with subtitles. What have I missed (or gained) by not watching it on the big screen?

        3. What do you think the movie is trying to say?

        4. Why do you think others are not seeing this as a year's best level of movie? Any honest criticisms of its shortcomings?

        I have some opinions but I want to hear yours and @cloud_loud 's and @cfabbro 's and others who are big fans of this movie

        Two small ones: I'm a big fan of Wes Anderson but I would also agree Oppenheimer is a better put together film than Asteroid City. (Though not as good as, say, Grand Budapest Hotel, on the subject of Nazis vs the Human Spirit) And secondly, I was delighted to see Robert Downey Jr as not Iron Man..

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        1. cfabbro
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          I think it's made pretty clear how Oppenheimer felt in the conversation he had with Einstein at the very end. The cinematography was absolutely gorgeous, and the sound design and score were...

          Do you think (the character in the movie) Oppenheimer would understand his life to have been one of success? How do you think the character evaluates his legacy?

          I think it's made pretty clear how Oppenheimer felt in the conversation he had with Einstein at the very end.

          OPPENHEIMER: Albert… when I came to you with those calculations, we thought we might start a chain reaction that would destroy the entire world.

          EINSTEIN: I remember it well. What of it?

          OPPENHEIMER: I believe we did.


          I only very recently watched the film, on a small screen with subtitles. What have I missed (or gained) by not watching it on the big screen?

          The cinematography was absolutely gorgeous, and the sound design and score were fantastic, so I think by seeing it on a smaller screen you might have missed just how much those elements can draw you into the film.


          What do you think the movie is trying to say?

          Again, I think the conversations with Einstein makes that pretty clear, at least from Oppenheimer's perspective. Although, I felt like the film also did a good job showing the perspectives of those who felt that developing the bombs, and using them on Japan was necessary. So what it's probably ultimately trying to say was that "it's complicated"... which it was, and still is. It's basically the trolley problem, but on a massive scale.


          Why do you think others are not seeing this as a year's best level of movie? Any honest criticisms of its shortcomings?

          Different strokes for different folks. Some people like biopics, and historical dramas, others don't. Nothing wrong with that. I honestly don't know why others found it "boring" though. I was thoroughly engrossed in the story and with the characters. And the only real shortcoming I can think of is Oppenheimer's relationship with Jean Tatlock felt really rushed, and a bit forced, largely due to the chemistry between Cillian Murphy and Florence Pugh just not feeling right. Although I've never been in a relationship that fucking toxic before, so it could just be that I couldn't relate to or understand their self-destructive obsession with each other.

          5 votes
        2. cloud_loud
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          I think cfabbro answered these questions pretty well. Immersion and scale. The film is already captivating but without any distractions is just sucks you in. The scale of the film is also made...

          I think cfabbro answered these questions pretty well.

          I only very recently watched the film, on a small screen with subtitles. What have I missed (or gained) by not watching it on the big screen?

          Immersion and scale. The film is already captivating but without any distractions is just sucks you in. The scale of the film is also made more obvious on the big screen, and makes even intimate moments seem larger than life.

          Why do you think others are not seeing this as a year's best level of movie? Any honest criticisms of its shortcomings?

          I think plenty of people are seeing what I'm seeing. From critics to audiences. There's a reason this is currently sweeping awards.

          The people who don't like it I think subconsciously have a problem when something is mainstream. And Oppenheimer is very mainstream. Not just because it was a billion dollar movie, but it's mainstream in it's storytelling. It's very classic in a way that if you want quirkiness or experimentation in a film you're just not gonna get that here.

          There's also people that just don't like Nolan for various reasons. An oft criticism of his writing has always been his dialogue. And that he can't write emotional moments, or can't write anything other than exposition. I've never agreed with this critique. I think people have that critique because Nolan wears his heart on his sleeves. He's got the sentimentality of a Spielberg.

          4 votes
    2. Rudism
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      I'm with you. I don't understand all the hype for Oppenheimer at all. The fact that a historical biopic is this huge summer blockbuster that people are drooling over feels like I'm in an episode...

      I'm with you. I don't understand all the hype for Oppenheimer at all. The fact that a historical biopic is this huge summer blockbuster that people are drooling over feels like I'm in an episode of The Twilight Zone.

      I bet this is how my friends and family feel when I'm gushing about some lower budget indie flick that blew me away, but they'll never watch because it's not being recommended by Netflix.

      8 votes
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      cloud_loud
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      Yeah closer to the ceremony after all the precursors are done. The way you feel about Oppenheimer is how I felt about EEAAO a year ago.

      Yeah closer to the ceremony after all the precursors are done.

      The way you feel about Oppenheimer is how I felt about EEAAO a year ago.

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    4. LeberechtReinhold
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      Past Lives was excellent, although I liked Oppenheimer more. My favorite this year was Society of the Snow though, the acting felt incredible.

      Past Lives was excellent, although I liked Oppenheimer more. My favorite this year was Society of the Snow though, the acting felt incredible.

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  2. gianni
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    Happy to see Poor Things take some awards. An incredibly bizarre, fucked up, uncomfortable, captivating, and beautiful film. It felt like a contemporary Terry Gilliam flick. I quite enjoyed it.

    Happy to see Poor Things take some awards. An incredibly bizarre, fucked up, uncomfortable, captivating, and beautiful film. It felt like a contemporary Terry Gilliam flick. I quite enjoyed it.

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  3. cloud_loud
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    How refreshed I feel this season compared to last. I feel like I’ve had a spiritual reawakening.

    How refreshed I feel this season compared to last. I feel like I’ve had a spiritual reawakening.

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  4. chocobean
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    I just watched the BAFTA opening skit and David Tennant's opening monologue (both available on the BBC YouTube channel) They're well written and funny I love that he was able to use his Scottish...

    I just watched the BAFTA opening skit and David Tennant's opening monologue (both available on the BBC YouTube channel)

    1. They're well written and funny

    2. I love that he was able to use his Scottish accent.

    Recently, I'm reading/listening to Sir Patrick Stewart's memoir, and in it he mentioned that he had had to learn Received Pronunciation. And that recently they're trying to change that, to encourage unique and regional accents to be kept, possibly just changing times not just out of respect but appreciation for the breadth in culture. (Strongly recommend the audiobook if you're a fan of Sir Patrick. It's a delight to hear him read quotes from the memoir in his own native accent, when they are in context. He also sings the singing portions!)

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