Yeah.... as much as I love Mel Brooks, I don't trust him to make good sequels to any of his older works these days. History of the World Part II was fucking awful.
Yeah.... as much as I love Mel Brooks, I don't trust him to make good sequels to any of his older works these days. History of the World Part II was fucking awful.
If you're talking about the interview from Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, I wouldn't say Brooks was "barely present"... he still seemed pretty damn sharp and funny in that interview, IMO. But...
If you're talking about the interview from Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, I wouldn't say Brooks was "barely present"... he still seemed pretty damn sharp and funny in that interview, IMO. But yeah, sadly he's definitely not at his peak anymore.
I'll probably watch it out of morbid curiosity. If nothing else, Spaceballs 2 (The Search for More Money) is the one from his repertoire to make a cash-grab sequel to.
I'll probably watch it out of morbid curiosity. If nothing else, Spaceballs 2 (The Search for More Money) is the one from his repertoire to make a cash-grab sequel to.
I've been wanting a Spaceballs 2 since they made that joke title in the first movie. That or a Spaceballs 3 since I heard the joke title, Spaceballs 3: The Search for Spaceballs 2. Maybe it'll...
I've been wanting a Spaceballs 2 since they made that joke title in the first movie. That or a Spaceballs 3 since I heard the joke title, Spaceballs 3: The Search for Spaceballs 2. Maybe it'll suck, but those two possible titles are a good start.
Really, it'd be better to go straight to 3, and any time someone tries to talk about the things that happened in the second movie, everyone shouts them down complaining about spoilers, even if...
Really, it'd be better to go straight to 3, and any time someone tries to talk about the things that happened in the second movie, everyone shouts them down complaining about spoilers, even if they were there when it happened.
Such a great idea. This could be amazing if it's done right. I really hope Mel Brooks lives to 120; I think he's the celebrity I most want to stick around that long. For all his sexist jokes, he...
Such a great idea. This could be amazing if it's done right. I really hope Mel Brooks lives to 120; I think he's the celebrity I most want to stick around that long. For all his sexist jokes, he seems like a good, funny guy.
id be down for a spaceballs remake that drops all the racist jokes and even, if they really want, adds some modern commentary, but i do not want a sequel
id be down for a spaceballs remake that drops all the racist jokes and even, if they really want, adds some modern commentary, but i do not want a sequel
Yeah, I've watched it loads of times too and don't remember any racist jokes in it. I can definitely see Blazing Saddles being perceived by some as being racist, but only by people who don't...
Yeah, I've watched it loads of times too and don't remember any racist jokes in it. I can definitely see Blazing Saddles being perceived by some as being racist, but only by people who don't understand that it's actually making fun of the racist characters in the film ("y'know... morons"), and also don't realize it was written by Brooks and Richard Pryor to do exactly that.
Edit: @RheingoldRiver might be thinking of the "we ain't found shit", afro pick scene? I don't really see how that's racist, per se, but that's the only joke I can think of that could be seen as being racist by someone.
Yes, that was the first scene that came to mind, the issue for me is that it's playing the way a Black person is talking for laughs, which makes me pretty uncomfortable today. I think pretty much...
Yes, that was the first scene that came to mind, the issue for me is that it's playing the way a Black person is talking for laughs, which makes me pretty uncomfortable today. I think pretty much any joke where if you ask yourself "ok if the races of all characters in this scene were changed, would it still make sense and be funny" and the answer is "no," then it's not going to feel great today
I'm going to go out on a (likely incredibly sturdy) limb here and say you're not Black. The joke here is not the way the Black actor talks. The joke is the comb, the literal "combing the desert"...
I'm going to go out on a (likely incredibly sturdy) limb here and say you're not Black.
The joke here is not the way the Black actor talks. The joke is the comb, the literal "combing the desert" joke, and the Black actor calling it as he sees it instead of the more subservient replies from the other troopers.
The comb: Black people don't use combs, they use picks, so the joke exists as a play on the actual combs the white troopers are using vs the pick the Black troopers are using.
Combing: The above is compounded by the literality of the joke because picks are both not as fine as combs and smaller overall, so there's more work that has to be done to cover the same area and lower likelihood to be successful.
Call out: Finally the portion you think is offensive, the manner in which the Black actor speaks, is both a joke about him finding the whole exercise of combing the desert to be a ludicrous act and not offensive as it is a common manner of speaking in the South, both the words and the directness of telling his boss, and in the Black lexicon. If anything, you finding the manner in which a Black person speaks to be offensive is offensive as there have been decades of pressure and erasure of Black culture by expecting them to "talk white."
No thank you. It’s not wanted and very, very much not needed.
Yeah.... as much as I love Mel Brooks, I don't trust him to make good sequels to any of his older works these days. History of the World Part II was fucking awful.
If you're talking about the interview from Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, I wouldn't say Brooks was "barely present"... he still seemed pretty damn sharp and funny in that interview, IMO. But yeah, sadly he's definitely not at his peak anymore.
Ah yeah, the Jerry Lewis one was sad. :(
p.s. Making an innocent identity mix-up like that isn't ignorance though, and there is no shame in it. ;)
I'll probably watch it out of morbid curiosity. If nothing else, Spaceballs 2 (The Search for More Money) is the one from his repertoire to make a cash-grab sequel to.
I've been wanting a Spaceballs 2 since they made that joke title in the first movie. That or a Spaceballs 3 since I heard the joke title, Spaceballs 3: The Search for Spaceballs 2. Maybe it'll suck, but those two possible titles are a good start.
Really, it'd be better to go straight to 3, and any time someone tries to talk about the things that happened in the second movie, everyone shouts them down complaining about spoilers, even if they were there when it happened.
Such a great idea. This could be amazing if it's done right. I really hope Mel Brooks lives to 120; I think he's the celebrity I most want to stick around that long. For all his sexist jokes, he seems like a good, funny guy.
id be down for a spaceballs remake that drops all the racist jokes and even, if they really want, adds some modern commentary, but i do not want a sequel
I’ve probably watched spaceballs a dozen times and can’t think of examples of racist jokes. Google is similarly coming up short. Could you elaborate?
Yeah, I've watched it loads of times too and don't remember any racist jokes in it. I can definitely see Blazing Saddles being perceived by some as being racist, but only by people who don't understand that it's actually making fun of the racist characters in the film ("y'know... morons"), and also don't realize it was written by Brooks and Richard Pryor to do exactly that.
Edit: @RheingoldRiver might be thinking of the "we ain't found shit", afro pick scene? I don't really see how that's racist, per se, but that's the only joke I can think of that could be seen as being racist by someone.
Yes, that was the first scene that came to mind, the issue for me is that it's playing the way a Black person is talking for laughs, which makes me pretty uncomfortable today. I think pretty much any joke where if you ask yourself "ok if the races of all characters in this scene were changed, would it still make sense and be funny" and the answer is "no," then it's not going to feel great today
I'm going to go out on a (likely incredibly sturdy) limb here and say you're not Black.
The joke here is not the way the Black actor talks. The joke is the comb, the literal "combing the desert" joke, and the Black actor calling it as he sees it instead of the more subservient replies from the other troopers.
Arguably "Druish princess" is a racist joke, but Mel Brooks is Jewish, so we generally agree he "gets" to make that joke.