Have you watched any movies recently you want to discuss? Any films you want to recommend or are hyped about? Feel free to discuss anything here.

Please just try to provide fair warning of spoilers if you can.

Have you watched any movies recently you want to discuss? Any films you want to recommend or are hyped about? Feel free to discuss anything here.

Please just try to provide fair warning of spoilers if you can.

I didn’t expect to be saying this, but Kpop Demon Hunters surprised me.

Going in, I figured it was going to be a niche kids animated movie trying to cash in on a trend, but put it on in the background.

I’m not into Kpop, and nothing about the marketing really pulled me in. But within ten minutes, it completely won me over.

The animation style is great. Same team that worked on Into the Spider-Verse, and it shows, bringing the same kind of energy and attention to detail when it comes to character design and world building. The way they handled anime-inspired expressions and visual effects in 3D actually worked, and it gave the movie a really unique feel.

What surprised me most was how strong everything else was. The plot isn’t an afterthought, the humor lands, and the songs are ridiculously catchy. I had no reason to expect this to be as well-rounded and satisfying as it is, but here we are.

I’m a 34-year-old man with no interest in Kpop, and this is now a comfort movie for me.

Have you watched any movies recently you want to discuss? Any films you want to recommend or are hyped about? Feel free to discuss anything here.

Please just try to provide fair warning of spoilers if you can.

Have you watched any movies recently you want to discuss? Any films you want to recommend or are hyped about? Feel free to discuss anything here.

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This will be an informal essay without citations or links. Basically, source: just trust me bro.

In the 2010s, a group of online film writers decided to reevaluate blockbuster filmmakers. This was supposed to be our modern Cahiers du Cinema, the film critics who brought us The French New Wave. They re-evaluated Hollywood directors from the 40s and 50s, filmmakers who were thought of only as making commercial entertainment. They're the reason that filmmakers like Alfred Hitchcock, Howard Hawks, and Nicolas Ray are now held in high esteem. They're also the reason why Citizen Kane is so revered today.

Critics from The Village Voice and The A.V. Club became proponents of this "new" auteur theory. Vulgar auteurism, which focused on a type of broad filmmaking distinguishing itself from prestige auteurs. It brought up filmmakers such as Michael Mann, who already had acclaim contemporarily, into the realm of one of the great filmmakers. It also brought up filmmakers that weren't acclaimed during their time, such as Tony Scott, who is now held in high regard and in some cases held in higher regard than his more prestige-oriented brother, Ridley Scott.

As time has gone on, this now applies to filmmakers such as Michael Bay, who has made a critical comeback after his Transformers movies with his 2022 film Ambulance, and M. Night Shyamalan, who started losing prestige throughout the 21st century. Movies from Shyamalan, such as The Village, The Happening, and After Earth are now held in higher regard than they were back during their releases.

Now that I have that out of the way, I wanted to bring up something as it's happening. While certain popcorn movies are now acclaimed (John Wick: Chapter 4 and Top Gun: Maverick being recent examples), there are still directors that are currently not being regarded highly that will likely meet a fate similar to Bay, Shyamalan, and Scott. I'm thinking of David Leitch, who received mixed-negative reception with his film Bullet Train while receiving positive albeit tepid reception with his follow-up The Fall Guy. Leitch is an auteur, much like Bay. His work on Deadpool 2 feels like him, even his film Hobbs and Shaw feels different than the other Fast and Furious franchise (although not to the same degree). Bullet Train was a relative box office hit at the time, but it's reached cult-classic status. Most people will probably know what movie you're talking about if you bring it up. It has a large presence on TikTok and other social media platforms. It simply lives in the culture. It contains the highly stylized, technically proficient action of films from Bay and Scott that were not well-liked by critics at the time. The same 20 and 30-something-year-olds who love Shyamalan today but despise Leitch will be in for a shock in ten years' time when the 20-something year olds who grew up with Bullet Train hold it in high regard like these people do Bad Boys II or Pain and Gain.

Another filmmaker who falls into this is Adam McKay. Much like Shyamalan, McKay received immense acclaim and prestige for his film The Big Short. Even films that weren't so acclaimed by critics at the time, such as Step-Brothers and The Other Guys, are held in high regard today as comedy masterpieces. So, what then of his critical reception on his last two films, Vice and Don't Look Up. Yes, they received Best Picture nominations, but they have become punching bags for these same film critics who loved Shyamalan's Trap. Don't Look Up specifically gets considered a terrible film. These aren't action films, so why am I bringing it up? McKay exhibits a loud and vulgar style in these films. He breaks the fourth wall constantly, interrupts the flow of scenes with freeze frames and insert shots. The editing in his films feels chaotic. So while this loud and vulgar style is accepted with filmmakers such as Scott, it seems like it's a bridge too far here. So I would not be surprised if McKay and Don't Look Up, which was one of the most-watched films on Netflix of all time, meet a similar reassessment period as the other films I've mentioned.

I didn't have much of a point to this other than to notice this pattern, even from critics and film lovers who seem to hold the theory to heart. And for some reason can't notice what's in front of them.

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I feel bored with new movies. I don’t know if it is me or if I feel burnet out on what Hollywood is putting out, either way i don’t feel there is anything new or refreshing.

I’ve watched some old movies, such as '12 Angry Men' (1957) which i found incredibly interesting. The entire movie is shot in one room basically and is about a youth charged for a murder and the twelve men in question have to decide if he should be put to a death sentence or not.

The point about mentioning this movie is that it is something very different than what is put out from Hollywood now. The same goes for 'Oceans Eleven' (1960) with the Rat Pack, which is a very different movie than the reboot from 2001.

I find older movies has more interesting plots and stories, not that it needs to be from the sixties. It can be from any decade, but I’d like to hear what you think should be on a movie bucketlist!

Thank you for your time, and I’m excited to watch your recommendations!

I've given this some thought and I'm still not sure if I'm expressing it the right way.

I generally don't like "dumb" entertainment. Having said that, I don't think I'm particularly highbrow or pretentious. A quote I refer to often was made in regard to videogames and it aligns very neatly with my philosophy: “If every movie were a porn movie, most people wouldn’t see movies. The majority of games are basically porn—the onus is on [designers] to make more things that are worth a reasonable person’s time.” That's equally applicable to other forms of media as well. You can even argue that various popular mainstream movies/franchises are essentially porn of another type (gun porn, trauma porn, etc.). All of that is to say that I try to look for a level of emotional maturity or sophistication that's beyond cheap gratification.

In practice, that usually means that my plan-to-watch list has a lot of stuff on the more serious side of the spectrum. However, I enjoy comedy just as much as anyone else. Generally, I like clever, witty comedy and I find that I get that mostly from standup comics, sketch shows, and the rare sitcom - not so much movies. But am I limited by my sense of humor? Does emotionally mature comedy necessarily mean "intellectual"/smart comedy? What comedic films would you present as emotionally mature?