A misdemeanor tax case, and owning a gun for two weeks. Out of a five year investigation. Well done, everyone. We've uncovered the real depths of the Biden family's lawlessness. Snarkiness aside,...
A misdemeanor tax case, and owning a gun for two weeks. Out of a five year investigation. Well done, everyone. We've uncovered the real depths of the Biden family's lawlessness.
Snarkiness aside, it's frustrating that so much time and attention has been put on Hunter Biden. I would prefer that the children of politicians don't get any special considerations, but the focus on him for little reason but to attack his dad is just sad.
What kills me is the non stop projection. They scream about email servers and nepotism... when you have trumps bathroom boxes and ... Jared. NYT: Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a...
What kills me is the non stop projection. They scream about email servers and nepotism... when you have trumps bathroom boxes and ... Jared.
It’s worth noting that Trump was just indicted over this. It’s still a possibility (although for the reasons you laid out, less likely) that they could go after them too.
The first two were not indicted.
It’s worth noting that Trump was just indicted over this. It’s still a possibility (although for the reasons you laid out, less likely) that they could go after them too.
They have a recording of Trump knowing they were top secret and bragging to people about it. Saying he didn't declassify them (like he told the public he did), and a meeting where he had to go...
Trump was just indicted over this
They have a recording of Trump knowing they were top secret and bragging to people about it. Saying he didn't declassify them (like he told the public he did), and a meeting where he had to go over all these rules and understand he was breaking them.
Then the fact he hid them, lied about them, and refused to cooperate until the had to raid his place... and theres still some missing... and they weren't secure... and some are only copies of the originals...
so yeah, worth pointing out that the other 2 cases are not similar and not going to be indicted.
Why the hostility? I never claimed they were similar (in fact I agreed with their points), all I’m saying is that saying that it hasn’t happened when it took two years to go after Trump is a bit...
Why the hostility? I never claimed they were similar (in fact I agreed with their points), all I’m saying is that saying that it hasn’t happened when it took two years to go after Trump is a bit short-sighted.
I’ve heard time and time again if he’s guilty why hasn’t he been charged with anything, now he has been so it’s why didn’t they do this while he was President? The wheels of justice turn slowly.
I’m not defending Trump and I’m not saying that they will (or should) prosecute them.
Apologize if it came across as hostile, but i just disagree with your statement that its 'worth noting' was covered in Muellers letter over his collusion with Russia. Another shit show. Trump got...
Apologize if it came across as hostile, but i just disagree with your statement that its 'worth noting'
why didn’t they do this while he was President?
was covered in Muellers letter over his collusion with Russia. Another shit show. Trump got an early copy and told the presses he was cleared... when that's not what the letter said.
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put it's pants on.
letter said basically theres 2 charges 1) collusion and 2) obstruction of justice trying to prove collusion. We don't have enough evidence in collusion (because of 2).
On #2.... if he were innocent we would say, but hes not.. and we're not allowed to say guilty because hes the president. Muellers letter below, simplified.
[t]he Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion
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The first volume details numerous efforts emanating from Russia to influence the election ...
our conclusion that there was insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy.
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And in a second volume, the report describes the results and analysis of our obstruction of justice investigation involving the president.
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President cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office.
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Even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view, that too is prohibited
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Charging the president with a crime was, therefore, not an option we could consider
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We did not make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime
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if we had had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.
Notice how w/ #1 they say "not enough evidence" but on #2... its just "we aren't allowed to say guilty" This guy is a crook.
I think you misunderstood, I wasn’t asking why they didn’t do it while he was President, I was saying that I see that argument all the time. I completely agree you.
I think you misunderstood, I wasn’t asking why they didn’t do it while he was President, I was saying that I see that argument all the time. I completely agree you.
I believe the Pence document case has been closed while the Joe Biden document case is still ongoing. As I recall, Joe Biden actually discovered the documents just before the 2022 election and...
I believe the Pence document case has been closed while the Joe Biden document case is still ongoing.
As I recall, Joe Biden actually discovered the documents just before the 2022 election and quietly reported the spill to NARA, but the media didn't catch hold of this until after the election. The worst (realist) scenario is that Joe Biden actually discovered the documents a few weeks/months earlier and waited to hand the documents over, knowing that politically it would look terrible for him to lambast Trump over his mishandling of documents when Biden also mishandled documents (even if Biden's actions were less egregious). I'm totally speculating here, but I'd guess the core question in the Biden investigation is whether he knew about the misplaced documents much earlier than when he said he did.
Of course the Trump scenario is significantly worse, considering Trump never had any intention of returning the documents and obstructed nearly every effort to have them returned. But if my hypothetical about Joe Biden were true, it would technically be in violation of the letter of the law.
I agree, let's start putting speeders on death row! /jest Seriously though I'm gonna start petitioning to install speed humps in my neighborhood, too many people blasting through at 60 mph in a 25...
everyone going 10 over the speed limit as well as murderers should be held accountable.
I agree, let's start putting speeders on death row! /jest
Seriously though I'm gonna start petitioning to install speed humps in my neighborhood, too many people blasting through at 60 mph in a 25 (about one block in from a diversion off a 40 mph road).
But there Trump is still the problem. E.g. Showing tax returns. Or trump demanding his son-in-law get security clearance he shouldn't have. How many times i have said to myself "If Obama did this,...
Shouldn't both be held to standards then
But there Trump is still the problem. E.g. Showing tax returns. Or trump demanding his son-in-law get security clearance he shouldn't have. How many times i have said to myself "If Obama did this, they would crucify him"
He is obstructing justice, refusing to cooperate, and deliberately breaking the law when told not to. Warned he was doing it (given a chance to return them), and lying about it.
I guess in my head... its like screaming at someone for stealing gum for 11 hours and they proved they didn't steal it... Then they are caught stealing from the cash register and refusing to cooperate. Giving their son-in-law a key to the back of the store where stuff went missing, Found out Russia helped get you the job, but the police captain is on your payroll so the investigation was dropped...
Well... Yes. And any reasonable person with more than 2 brain cells rubbing together would agree with you. But the GOP cannot comprehend that "Their Guy" isn't being harassed by the DoJ simply for...
Well... Yes.
And any reasonable person with more than 2 brain cells rubbing together would agree with you.
But the GOP cannot comprehend that "Their Guy" isn't being harassed by the DoJ simply for being a Republican.
It's oppression to them.
So, now that hunter has pleas guilty, they complain that he isn't serving decades in prison..... For a misdemeanor tax offense, and a gun charge that is rarely prosecuted anyway.
To them, it's just proof of judicial bias.
Nevermind the loads of illegal shit GOP members have done, because to them, the law should only apply to people they don't like.
Exactly, I don't think his critics have really mulled over the ramifications of trying to get harsher sentencing for owning a gun while under the influence of drugs at any point in your life. It...
Exactly, I don't think his critics have really mulled over the ramifications of trying to get harsher sentencing for owning a gun while under the influence of drugs at any point in your life. It doesn't take that much self-awareness to realize how that could inconvenience a lot of them.
And this perpetual inquisition on Hunter Biden is depressing. The guy is suffering, he's trying to live his life, far as I know he isn't hurting anyone, and a third of the country has decided that he's a monster because his dad was more popular than their orange messiah. The dude needs emotional support and privacy, but Republicans are determined to provide anything but.
exactly my thoughts. these folks believe that alcohol (the depressant) is not a drug and that they’re somehow different. nobody should be above the law, definitely, but once again many...
exactly my thoughts. these folks believe that alcohol (the depressant) is not a drug and that they’re somehow different.
nobody should be above the law, definitely, but once again many conservatives are putting their face in the leopards’ cage.
personally, i think rehabilitation would be best for him, but i also think the for-profit prison system helps nobody but blackrock and vanguard.
Good. We have got to get away from two deeply toxic ideas in American politics. That the President and/or their family is above the law or due any special consideration if they break the law. That...
Good. We have got to get away from two deeply toxic ideas in American politics.
That the President and/or their family is above the law or due any special consideration if they break the law.
That the President's moral fitness for office is determined by the behavior of their kids or other family members.
If not the candidate, their children. If not their children, their siblings. If not their siblings, their parents. If not their parents, their uncles, aunts, or cousins. No one is perfect, and no...
If not the candidate, their children. If not their children, their siblings. If not their siblings, their parents. If not their parents, their uncles, aunts, or cousins. No one is perfect, and no one's relations are all perfect. If someone wants to make hay over something, it's easy enough to build a strawman.
I think you're misunderstanding @trebory6's point. Obama did not have a problematic child using his name for salary from corrupt businesses. Obama is a good example of a candidate without the...
I think you're misunderstanding @trebory6's point. Obama did not have a problematic child using his name for salary from corrupt businesses. Obama is a good example of a candidate without the drama, insane Republicans notwithstanding.
They didn’t reply to the wrong person. They replied to a comment made by daychilde, but included @trebory6 in that reply. Adding @+username to a comment will notify that person of the comment even...
They didn’t reply to the wrong person. They replied to a comment made by daychilde, but included @trebory6 in that reply. Adding @+username to a comment will notify that person of the comment even if that’s not the person being replied to. That’s why their comment popped up in your notifications.
There are exploitative issues such as this in literally every family in America (and probably the world). There is no perfect politician because we have such a warped view of what a politician...
While I agree, I just wish that democrats could foresee this kind of time wasting distraction by republicans and not put up candidates that have these kind of easily exploitable things associated with them.
There are exploitative issues such as this in literally every family in America (and probably the world). There is no perfect politician because we have such a warped view of what a politician is/should be.
Who realistically would that be? Its not like Biden just magically won the primary, he was able to convince more people to vote for him than any of the other candidates were, despite the issues...
Who realistically would that be?
Its not like Biden just magically won the primary, he was able to convince more people to vote for him than any of the other candidates were, despite the issues around Hunter Biden. All candidates will have some downsides, and just looking at how the Democratic primary went Biden's overall appeal to voters was larger than any of his rivals.
That is 100% how American politics works though. A vote against "Candidate A" is a vote for "Candidate B."
I am not entirely convinced that Biden won entirely on his own merits and not the fact that enough people thought Trump was simply the much worse option.
That is 100% how American politics works though. A vote against "Candidate A" is a vote for "Candidate B."
Oh, sure. The old saying of "democrats fall in love; republicans fall in line." For most of my life the GOP has voted in lock step in every election, even if the party candidate is an honest to...
Oh, sure. The old saying of "democrats fall in love; republicans fall in line."
For most of my life the GOP has voted in lock step in every election, even if the party candidate is an honest to god child rapist. Democrats, meanwhile, only seem to turn out if the candidate in question touches their soul.
There's no way Hillary would've been more popular than Biden, and the stuff about her emails is exactly as legitimate as claiming that this stuff about Hunter reflects badly on Joe Biden. Just by...
There's no way Hillary would've been more popular than Biden, and the stuff about her emails is exactly as legitimate as claiming that this stuff about Hunter reflects badly on Joe Biden.
Just by being VP during Obama's term, which people regarded as being 'normal', Biden got an absolutely huge boost in name recognition and popularity. Meanwhile half the country instantly thinks of 'Benghazi' when they hear the word 'Hillary', that isn't helpful for winning elections.
So if the problem with Biden is that the Republicans are able to exaggerate issues with Hunter, how would Hillary's issues with Benghazi be less of a problem? If you have an issue with the word...
So if the problem with Biden is that the Republicans are able to exaggerate issues with Hunter, how would Hillary's issues with Benghazi be less of a problem?
If you have an issue with the word 'popularity' then insert whatever word you think is best, but if Hillary was president then the reporting around Benghazi would be just as, if not more, prevalent than the reporting around Hunter Biden is.
There was no candidate who had more good points and fewer bad points, in the eyes of the American public, than Joe Biden. Simply put, if there had been, this candidate would have won the primary election (if he was a democrat) or the general election (if he wasn't). I guess its unfortunate that the best candidate there was ended up not being perfect, but there wasn't a viable alternative.
Yes that's why I said "in the eyes of the American people", if you don't have money for advertising then you're not going to be "in the eyes of the American people" to begin with. Nobody is going...
Yes that's why I said "in the eyes of the American people", if you don't have money for advertising then you're not going to be "in the eyes of the American people" to begin with. Nobody is going to vote for a random stranger they don't know. And if you did just start grabbing random people, the whole "lack of experience" thing would quickly prevent any of them from having success anyway.
These are the things that stick in public conciousness now (15 years later) but this is not representative of the controversy at the time. His frank admission of drug use in high school and...
The most they had against Obama is the birth certificate thing and that he wore a brown suit. I'd rather that be the most republicans can run around with.
These are the things that stick in public conciousness now (15 years later) but this is not representative of the controversy at the time. His frank admission of drug use in high school and college and the Jeremiah Wright controversy to name two more prominent ones.
Time has simply healed those wounds in a way that they've not yet done so for Hunter Biden.
That seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water. When evaluating a candidate, you have to look at their benefits and their negatives. Only focusing on negatives, or requiring some...
That seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water. When evaluating a candidate, you have to look at their benefits and their negatives. Only focusing on negatives, or requiring some negative floor, is counterproductive. There are candidates that hypothetically would have less baggage, but that is dwarfed by how much more brand recognition Biden has, especially to the critical swing voters in the rust belt and sunbelt.
What about that requires good faith? To be honest, my statement was almost vacuously true. It just says "weight positive and negatives". You don't have to consider the pro and cons of Biden as...
What about that requires good faith? To be honest, my statement was almost vacuously true. It just says "weight positive and negatives".
You don't have to consider the pro and cons of Biden as like, a human being or something (I'm not even sure how that would defined). You can consider them in the most real politik way imaginable, purely as a variable that voters react to.
I'm still confused at where "good faith" is required. I don't see this incident in any way making Biden a worse candidate than other democratic candidates regardless of what the GOP does and what conservative news media does.
But the reality of the situation is that a lot of voters don't care about that.
Per polling, a lot of them don't care about Hunter Biden.
I don’t think many people see the Hunter stuff as bigger than the birth certificate. So I kind of disagree with the premise that Biden was an easily exploitable candidate. He probably had the best...
I don’t think many people see the Hunter stuff as bigger than the birth certificate. So I kind of disagree with the premise that Biden was an easily exploitable candidate. He probably had the best chance of winning, which is amazing to contemplate.
And no, neither the president nor Congress goes through a traditional background check and security clearance. But they take a secrecy oath!
I really appreciate that Joe Biden didn't give special treatment to him. Apparently after a new president is sworn in, they tend to replace federal AGs to more aligned with their policies. He...
I really appreciate that Joe Biden didn't give special treatment to him.
Apparently after a new president is sworn in, they tend to replace federal AGs to more aligned with their policies. He instead decided to keep the DC's AG who was handling Hunter's case.
Whether it was just optics or true integrity, I can respect that decision. There is a lot I dislike about Joe, but it's nice to at least have a reasonably civilized president again.
Whether it was just optics or true integrity, I can respect that decision. There is a lot I dislike about Joe, but it's nice to at least have a reasonably civilized president again.
That really depends on whether the President installs those kids into the government. I don’t care what Hunter does, because he’s not in the government. Trump’s kids reflect directly on his...
That the President's moral fitness for office is determined by the behavior of their kids or other family members.
That really depends on whether the President installs those kids into the government.
I don’t care what Hunter does, because he’s not in the government. Trump’s kids reflect directly on his judgement and ethics because they are government officials that have been hand selected by Trump, and they share both public duties as well as private financial interests with their father.
The heck, and here I was checking if there's a way I can unsubscribe from these useless politics without unsubscribing from any and all news posted to tildes.
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The heck, and here I was checking if there's a way I can unsubscribe from these useless politics without unsubscribing from any and all news posted to tildes.
since it was an edit of multiple tags at once, the most charitable interpretation would be that it was an accidental removal. I added the politics tag back since it does seem to apply here -...
added tags 'hunter biden', 'department of justice', 'weapons', 'guns', 'crime', 'usa', 'author.lindsay whitehurst', 'taxes' and removed tag 'politics'
since it was an edit of multiple tags at once, the most charitable interpretation would be that it was an accidental removal.
I added the politics tag back since it does seem to apply here - @mycketforvirrad let me know if you disagree.
This kind of post is arguably more news than politics but in reality it should probably be in the weekly US news & politics megathread. IMO, Tildes needs some moderator tools related to merging...
This kind of post is arguably more news than politics but in reality it should probably be in the weekly US news & politics megathread. IMO, Tildes needs some moderator tools related to merging posts into megathreads.
Especially regarding the Reddit protests. So many small updates are posted as their own topics that would be perfect fodder for the megathread that already exists.
Especially regarding the Reddit protests. So many small updates are posted as their own topics that would be perfect fodder for the megathread that already exists.
Since we're on the topic of Hunter Biden, can anyone comment on this piece of german news I found the other day? (Translated excerpt below) What I found unusual about this is that I haven't heard...
As vice president, Joe Biden allegedly collected bribes together with his son Hunter. To this long-known accusation, Republicans now report evidence: the recordings of 17 phone calls. What are the consequences for the Bidens?
Joe Biden, as vice president in 2016, had made the disbursement of aid money to Ukraine conditional on the firing of a prosecutor there. Because this prosecutor, Viktor Schokin, was corrupt. The juicy thing is that Shokin was also investigating the Ukrainian energy company BURISMA, on whose supervisory board sat Biden's son Hunter.
This has been the rumor for years. What is new, however, is what Republican Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa has now claimed in the House: "The foreign national who is alleged to have bribed the Bidens apparently secretly made 17 tape recordings," Grassley claims. The person referred to is the founder of BURISMA, Mykola Zlochevsky. The source, he says, was an undercover FBI informant. "With these recordings, he wanted to cover himself in case the bribery was exposed," Grassley said.
What I found unusual about this is that I haven't heard a peep on this one outside of this one article. Granted, I didn't go looking for it, and it doesn't seem particularly newsworthy, considering the only actual content of it is "Republican politician claims", which is about as credible as... actually I'm lacking a good comparison. But I didn't even see it reported on some deplorable subreddits, which surprised me.
But is my assessment correct here that Tagesschau seems to display weird priorities about what the most relevant US political news item of yesterday was?
These allegations are based on an FBI document where they recorded hearsay that was recognized to be unproven. That one piece was then leaked separate from the FBI's assessment of the accuracy of...
These allegations are based on an FBI document where they recorded hearsay that was recognized to be unproven. That one piece was then leaked separate from the FBI's assessment of the accuracy of the hearsay. Democrats are asking for that analysis to also be released, since this one bit of context-free hearsay on FBI letterhead is painting a suggestive scenario, but it's not the whole picture.
A misdemeanor tax case, and owning a gun for two weeks. Out of a five year investigation. Well done, everyone. We've uncovered the real depths of the Biden family's lawlessness.
Snarkiness aside, it's frustrating that so much time and attention has been put on Hunter Biden. I would prefer that the children of politicians don't get any special considerations, but the focus on him for little reason but to attack his dad is just sad.
What kills me is the non stop projection. They scream about email servers and nepotism... when you have trumps bathroom boxes and ... Jared.
NYT: Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance
MSNBC: Jared Kushner's deal with Saudi Arabia sure looks corrupt
..Starting to think Trump might have been born in Kenya based on how much he claimed he had Obama's birth certificate.
Shouldn't both be held to standards then? Isn't that just saying well yeah they did it but Trump did it worse.
It’s worth noting that Trump was just indicted over this. It’s still a possibility (although for the reasons you laid out, less likely) that they could go after them too.
They have a recording of Trump knowing they were top secret and bragging to people about it. Saying he didn't declassify them (like he told the public he did), and a meeting where he had to go over all these rules and understand he was breaking them.
Then the fact he hid them, lied about them, and refused to cooperate until the had to raid his place... and theres still some missing... and they weren't secure... and some are only copies of the originals...
so yeah, worth pointing out that the other 2 cases are not similar and not going to be indicted.
Why the hostility? I never claimed they were similar (in fact I agreed with their points), all I’m saying is that saying that it hasn’t happened when it took two years to go after Trump is a bit short-sighted.
I’ve heard time and time again if he’s guilty why hasn’t he been charged with anything, now he has been so it’s why didn’t they do this while he was President? The wheels of justice turn slowly.
I’m not defending Trump and I’m not saying that they will (or should) prosecute them.
Apologize if it came across as hostile, but i just disagree with your statement that its 'worth noting'
was covered in Muellers letter over his collusion with Russia. Another shit show. Trump got an early copy and told the presses he was cleared... when that's not what the letter said.
letter said basically theres 2 charges 1) collusion and 2) obstruction of justice trying to prove collusion. We don't have enough evidence in collusion (because of 2).
On #2.... if he were innocent we would say, but hes not.. and we're not allowed to say guilty because hes the president. Muellers letter below, simplified.
Notice how w/ #1 they say "not enough evidence" but on #2... its just "we aren't allowed to say guilty" This guy is a crook.
I think you misunderstood, I wasn’t asking why they didn’t do it while he was President, I was saying that I see that argument all the time. I completely agree you.
I believe the Pence document case has been closed while the Joe Biden document case is still ongoing.
As I recall, Joe Biden actually discovered the documents just before the 2022 election and quietly reported the spill to NARA, but the media didn't catch hold of this until after the election. The worst (realist) scenario is that Joe Biden actually discovered the documents a few weeks/months earlier and waited to hand the documents over, knowing that politically it would look terrible for him to lambast Trump over his mishandling of documents when Biden also mishandled documents (even if Biden's actions were less egregious). I'm totally speculating here, but I'd guess the core question in the Biden investigation is whether he knew about the misplaced documents much earlier than when he said he did.
Of course the Trump scenario is significantly worse, considering Trump never had any intention of returning the documents and obstructed nearly every effort to have them returned. But if my hypothetical about Joe Biden were true, it would technically be in violation of the letter of the law.
I agree, let's start putting speeders on death row! /jest
Seriously though I'm gonna start petitioning to install speed humps in my neighborhood, too many people blasting through at 60 mph in a 25 (about one block in from a diversion off a 40 mph road).
But there Trump is still the problem. E.g. Showing tax returns. Or trump demanding his son-in-law get security clearance he shouldn't have. How many times i have said to myself "If Obama did this, they would crucify him"
He is obstructing justice, refusing to cooperate, and deliberately breaking the law when told not to. Warned he was doing it (given a chance to return them), and lying about it.
Hunter is not getting special favors... hillary testified for 11 hours! for Benghazi trying to find fault... vs Trumps refusal to testify for his many crimes, and delaying trials for years.
Remember the chant "lock her up"?
I guess in my head... its like screaming at someone for stealing gum for 11 hours and they proved they didn't steal it... Then they are caught stealing from the cash register and refusing to cooperate. Giving their son-in-law a key to the back of the store where stuff went missing, Found out Russia helped get you the job, but the police captain is on your payroll so the investigation was dropped...
Pretty sure you're referring to Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, not stepson. To my knowledge, Trump has no stepchildren.
Correct, thanks. Updated post.
Well... Yes.
And any reasonable person with more than 2 brain cells rubbing together would agree with you.
But the GOP cannot comprehend that "Their Guy" isn't being harassed by the DoJ simply for being a Republican.
It's oppression to them.
So, now that hunter has pleas guilty, they complain that he isn't serving decades in prison..... For a misdemeanor tax offense, and a gun charge that is rarely prosecuted anyway.
To them, it's just proof of judicial bias.
Nevermind the loads of illegal shit GOP members have done, because to them, the law should only apply to people they don't like.
Exactly, I don't think his critics have really mulled over the ramifications of trying to get harsher sentencing for owning a gun while under the influence of drugs at any point in your life. It doesn't take that much self-awareness to realize how that could inconvenience a lot of them.
And this perpetual inquisition on Hunter Biden is depressing. The guy is suffering, he's trying to live his life, far as I know he isn't hurting anyone, and a third of the country has decided that he's a monster because his dad was more popular than their orange messiah. The dude needs emotional support and privacy, but Republicans are determined to provide anything but.
exactly my thoughts. these folks believe that alcohol (the depressant) is not a drug and that they’re somehow different.
nobody should be above the law, definitely, but once again many conservatives are putting their face in the leopards’ cage.
personally, i think rehabilitation would be best for him, but i also think the for-profit prison system helps nobody but blackrock and vanguard.
Good. We have got to get away from two deeply toxic ideas in American politics.
If not the candidate, their children. If not their children, their siblings. If not their siblings, their parents. If not their parents, their uncles, aunts, or cousins. No one is perfect, and no one's relations are all perfect. If someone wants to make hay over something, it's easy enough to build a strawman.
I don’t know. The time he boldly said “Dijon Mustard” was pretty crazy. Fox News tore him up for that one.
I think you're misunderstanding @trebory6's point. Obama did not have a problematic child using his name for salary from corrupt businesses. Obama is a good example of a candidate without the drama, insane Republicans notwithstanding.
They didn’t reply to the wrong person. They replied to a comment made by daychilde, but included @trebory6 in that reply. Adding @+username to a comment will notify that person of the comment even if that’s not the person being replied to. That’s why their comment popped up in your notifications.
There are exploitative issues such as this in literally every family in America (and probably the world). There is no perfect politician because we have such a warped view of what a politician is/should be.
Who realistically would that be?
Its not like Biden just magically won the primary, he was able to convince more people to vote for him than any of the other candidates were, despite the issues around Hunter Biden. All candidates will have some downsides, and just looking at how the Democratic primary went Biden's overall appeal to voters was larger than any of his rivals.
That is 100% how American politics works though. A vote against "Candidate A" is a vote for "Candidate B."
Oh, sure. The old saying of "democrats fall in love; republicans fall in line."
For most of my life the GOP has voted in lock step in every election, even if the party candidate is an honest to god child rapist. Democrats, meanwhile, only seem to turn out if the candidate in question touches their soul.
There's no way Hillary would've been more popular than Biden, and the stuff about her emails is exactly as legitimate as claiming that this stuff about Hunter reflects badly on Joe Biden.
Just by being VP during Obama's term, which people regarded as being 'normal', Biden got an absolutely huge boost in name recognition and popularity. Meanwhile half the country instantly thinks of 'Benghazi' when they hear the word 'Hillary', that isn't helpful for winning elections.
So if the problem with Biden is that the Republicans are able to exaggerate issues with Hunter, how would Hillary's issues with Benghazi be less of a problem?
If you have an issue with the word 'popularity' then insert whatever word you think is best, but if Hillary was president then the reporting around Benghazi would be just as, if not more, prevalent than the reporting around Hunter Biden is.
There was no candidate who had more good points and fewer bad points, in the eyes of the American public, than Joe Biden. Simply put, if there had been, this candidate would have won the primary election (if he was a democrat) or the general election (if he wasn't). I guess its unfortunate that the best candidate there was ended up not being perfect, but there wasn't a viable alternative.
Yes that's why I said "in the eyes of the American people", if you don't have money for advertising then you're not going to be "in the eyes of the American people" to begin with. Nobody is going to vote for a random stranger they don't know. And if you did just start grabbing random people, the whole "lack of experience" thing would quickly prevent any of them from having success anyway.
These are the things that stick in public conciousness now (15 years later) but this is not representative of the controversy at the time. His frank admission of drug use in high school and college and the Jeremiah Wright controversy to name two more prominent ones.
Time has simply healed those wounds in a way that they've not yet done so for Hunter Biden.
In this case I think the benefits of Biden far outweighs whatever negative this has.
That seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water. When evaluating a candidate, you have to look at their benefits and their negatives. Only focusing on negatives, or requiring some negative floor, is counterproductive. There are candidates that hypothetically would have less baggage, but that is dwarfed by how much more brand recognition Biden has, especially to the critical swing voters in the rust belt and sunbelt.
I'm a bit confused now; what exactly requires a good faith political system in what I said?
What about that requires good faith? To be honest, my statement was almost vacuously true. It just says "weight positive and negatives".
You don't have to consider the pro and cons of Biden as like, a human being or something (I'm not even sure how that would defined). You can consider them in the most real politik way imaginable, purely as a variable that voters react to.
I'm still confused at where "good faith" is required. I don't see this incident in any way making Biden a worse candidate than other democratic candidates regardless of what the GOP does and what conservative news media does.
Per polling, a lot of them don't care about Hunter Biden.
I don’t think many people see the Hunter stuff as bigger than the birth certificate. So I kind of disagree with the premise that Biden was an easily exploitable candidate. He probably had the best chance of winning, which is amazing to contemplate.
And no, neither the president nor Congress goes through a traditional background check and security clearance. But they take a secrecy oath!
I really appreciate that Joe Biden didn't give special treatment to him.
Apparently after a new president is sworn in, they tend to replace federal AGs to more aligned with their policies. He instead decided to keep the DC's AG who was handling Hunter's case.
Whether it was just optics or true integrity, I can respect that decision. There is a lot I dislike about Joe, but it's nice to at least have a reasonably civilized president again.
That really depends on whether the President installs those kids into the government.
I don’t care what Hunter does, because he’s not in the government. Trump’s kids reflect directly on his judgement and ethics because they are government officials that have been hand selected by Trump, and they share both public duties as well as private financial interests with their father.
Sure, but then the question is not "how much do the President's kids suck" and instead "how much do the President's appointments suck?"
That does it, I will no longer vote for Hunter Biden.
Based on the crimes he plead guilty to, he could do really well on republican ticket.
How dare the president have a son with issues! /s
How dare the president's son have issues after multiple tragic deaths in his family! /s
The heck, and here I was checking if there's a way I can unsubscribe from these useless politics without unsubscribing from any and all news posted to tildes.
since it was an edit of multiple tags at once, the most charitable interpretation would be that it was an accidental removal.
I added the politics tag back since it does seem to apply here - @mycketforvirrad let me know if you disagree.
This kind of post is arguably more news than politics but in reality it should probably be in the weekly US news & politics megathread. IMO, Tildes needs some moderator tools related to merging posts into megathreads.
Especially regarding the Reddit protests. So many small updates are posted as their own topics that would be perfect fodder for the megathread that already exists.
Fair do's. It didn't seem like a
politicspost to me, morecrime, but that might be my own bias. I'll defer to the consensus on this one.Since we're on the topic of Hunter Biden, can anyone comment on this piece of german news I found the other day?
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What I found unusual about this is that I haven't heard a peep on this one outside of this one article. Granted, I didn't go looking for it, and it doesn't seem particularly newsworthy, considering the only actual content of it is "Republican politician claims", which is about as credible as... actually I'm lacking a good comparison. But I didn't even see it reported on some deplorable subreddits, which surprised me.
But is my assessment correct here that Tagesschau seems to display weird priorities about what the most relevant US political news item of yesterday was?
These allegations are based on an FBI document where they recorded hearsay that was recognized to be unproven. That one piece was then leaked separate from the FBI's assessment of the accuracy of the hearsay. Democrats are asking for that analysis to also be released, since this one bit of context-free hearsay on FBI letterhead is painting a suggestive scenario, but it's not the whole picture.
Sounds like I'm right to be miffed about the way tagesschau reported here...