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Weekly US politics news and updates thread - week of October 19

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  1. Hunterquill
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    An Idaho ICE Raid Rounded Up Hundreds. The Fallout Could Change How ICE Operates Summary below I'd hope this would be eye-opening for anyone who doubts where we're going as a country.

    An Idaho ICE Raid Rounded Up Hundreds. The Fallout Could Change How ICE Operates

    Summary below

    Hundreds had gathered at the arena for a festival celebrating horse racing and Mexican culture.
    As the military-style helicopter hovered above them, attendees from the rural, predominantly Latino community, began to get nervous.

    Within minutes, the festival grounds descended into chaos. Backed by armored trucks and snipers, more than 200 members of law enforcement stormed the grounds, some shot rubber bullets into the crowd and hurled flash-bang grenades into vehicles where people had fled to hide. Hundreds of people, including teens as young as 14, were detained and zip-tied.

    When it was all over, federal authorities had arrested 105 people for alleged immigration violations. Yet on paper, this wasn’t an immigration raid at all. The only warrant for the Wilder raid was secured by the FBI. Its target: the owner of the track and four others for alleged unlicensed gambling.

    Advocates argue that in Idaho, ICE unlawfully piggybacked on an FBI operation, rather than securing their own warrant, as they would be expected to do on this type of operation. A lawsuit brought forth by the ACLU argues that federal authorities violated the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures, by using an unrelated search warrant as a “cover to go fishing for immigration arrests.”

    Among the 105 people who were ultimately arrested, 75 are believed to have been deported to their home countries, according to local media, and 26 were released from ICE custody after their lawyers filed habeas corpus petitions. The whereabouts of the remaining four people are unclear. ICE did not provide an update on their case status.

    The day after the raid, the Wilder School District reported absent rates soared, with 20% of students absent, according to The Idaho Statesman.

    I'd hope this would be eye-opening for anyone who doubts where we're going as a country.

    20 votes
  2. [7]
    DefinitelyNotAFae
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    Vivek Ramaswamy put out an ad so disgusting that the National Review did journalism to debunk it. Amy Acton was the documented victim of child sexual abuse by her step father. Her mother lost...

    Vivek Ramaswamy put out an ad so disgusting that the National Review did journalism to debunk it.

    Amy Acton was the documented victim of child sexual abuse by her step father. Her mother lost custody of her and her brother and stayed married to the abuser. Ramaswamy created (or indirectly supported) an ad with Acton's mom telling people not to vote for Acton because "she's a liar".

    It's deeply disgusting and the campaign isn't backing off but it seems a lot of Republicans have deleted their posts after the fact from the apology posts I'm seeing.

    ETA: he confirmed it was his ad, the question existed because it lacked the mandatory "created by/approve this message" language .

    15 votes
    1. [6]
      Lia
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      Oof, that's vile! I've long been astounded by the American style of campaigning where some candidates focus on trashing their opponent rather than explaining what they themselves bring to the...

      Oof, that's vile!

      I've long been astounded by the American style of campaigning where some candidates focus on trashing their opponent rather than explaining what they themselves bring to the table. I guess it must actually work or people wouldn't be doing it? I tend to instinctively dismiss people who try this because I've been taught that bashing others indicates incompetence, and I believe most people in my country share this belief, so something like this ad would be a career ending move here.

      Even if opponent-bashing is a useful tactic in America/Ohio, I find it very hard to believe stooping this low could get him any other result than a clear cut loss.

      (Wasn't he a presidential candidate too?)

      4 votes
      1. [2]
        DefinitelyNotAFae
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        A lot of places have stricter campaign laws, but part of what is so awful about this is that they tested it by polling people before it got released publicly and it works on a certain subset of...

        A lot of places have stricter campaign laws, but part of what is so awful about this is that they tested it by polling people before it got released publicly and it works on a certain subset of voters he wanted. But there has been pretty widespread backlash, it's just a matter of whether his gains outweigh his losses.

        Because her being a past victim will probably hurt her by some amount regardless of everything else. How much they can make the lies stick - Trump also was pushing the lies - vs the "so you support pedophiles" counterbalance... Idk.

        He did run in 2024 yes but is starting to fall afoul of the white supremacy in the right even as very rich awful human.

        8 votes
        1. Lia
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          Ugh, gross. It just makes him seem so desperate that it serves to paint him as a likely loser. Some people will probably vote for that because they're desperate/insecure themselves but hopefully...

          they tested it by polling people before it got released publicly and it works on a certain subset of voters he wanted

          Ugh, gross. It just makes him seem so desperate that it serves to paint him as a likely loser. Some people will probably vote for that because they're desperate/insecure themselves but hopefully not too many. Remains to be seen!

          4 votes
      2. Fiachra
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        The current president of Ireland was a dark horse candidate who only* won because her opponent's negative campaign strategy was incredibly unpopular with everyone. There were many reasons but this...

        The current president of Ireland was a dark horse candidate who only* won because her opponent's negative campaign strategy was incredibly unpopular with everyone.

        • There were many reasons but this was the final link in the chain
        4 votes
      3. [2]
        stu2b50
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        It’s a good strategy for the current Republican position. The reality is that the president is unpopular and so is the party, so trying to attack the other candidate is way to garner support...

        It’s a good strategy for the current Republican position. The reality is that the president is unpopular and so is the party, so trying to attack the other candidate is way to garner support without having to remind the voter that you’re with the guy raising gas prices.

        A funny thing to observe in political ads in general is that neither the democratic candidate nor the Republican candidate in battleground states mentions their political affiliation in their ads. They both want to distance themselves from their respective parties.

        For that ad in particular, if you know the background, it’s pretty despicable, but if you don’t, it’s convincing. It’s one thing for a political opponent to call you a liar - of course they would - but your own mother? That’s shocking.

        3 votes
        1. CannibalisticApple
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          Fingers crossed the backlash is loud enough to reach enough of those unaware voters to make a difference. It's been on the national news we watch every night, and even the current governor has...

          Fingers crossed the backlash is loud enough to reach enough of those unaware voters to make a difference. It's been on the national news we watch every night, and even the current governor has called for the ad to be withdrawn.

          It reminds me of the mailer saying a rival "didn't have the HEART for office" because he had a heart transplant. It was back in 2006 before attack ads got to the current level and I only learned about it from a trivia book years later, so I don't know what level of backlash it got... But Berryhill won the primary by 40 percentage points, and even 14 years later it was memorable enough that the article about his death referenced it in the headline. (And now I'm sad he died, he seems like a good man.)

          3 votes
  3. [6]
    Lia
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    Jared Kushner’s Hacked Phone Revealed His Secret Negotiations—Including More Than $700 Million in Transfers (Reader mode got me through the paywall) A long read. TLDR: Russians hacked Kushner's...

    Jared Kushner’s Hacked Phone Revealed His Secret Negotiations—Including More Than $700 Million in Transfers

    (Reader mode got me through the paywall)

    A long read. TLDR: Russians hacked Kushner's phone, later one of their agents got caught in Europe and decided to share info in exchange for avoiding a prison sentence. Monitoring the phone revealed negotiations and millions transferred between UAE / Saudi Arabia / Israel and Kushner.

    14 votes
    1. [4]
      shijie
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      Do you think this revelation is going to actually change anything? Hopefully this is where the Dems are going to start attacking once they get power

      Do you think this revelation is going to actually change anything?

      Hopefully this is where the Dems are going to start attacking once they get power

      6 votes
      1. [3]
        Lia
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        I regularly listen to Heather Cox Richardson's explainer videos on YouTube. For those who don't know: she's a political historian, familiar with how dictatorships tend to rise and fall. She would...

        I regularly listen to Heather Cox Richardson's explainer videos on YouTube. For those who don't know: she's a political historian, familiar with how dictatorships tend to rise and fall. She would likely say that there's never one single thing that causes things to change. It's many small things, often grassroot level, that accumulate and eventually create a mass that starts an avalanche. This kind of thing coming to light will probably fuel a bunch of such small things.

        Of course, almost everyone already suspected this type of thing was happening, myself included, but it's something else to get confirmation and a detailed description.

        Edit: typo

        15 votes
        1. [2]
          IIIIIIIIII
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          Thank you for the rec Lia, my political history is pretty weak for the 20th century. But I've just checked out her wiki and she's written books about subjects I'm very interested to learn about,...

          Thank you for the rec Lia, my political history is pretty weak for the 20th century.

          But I've just checked out her wiki and she's written books about subjects I'm very interested to learn about, like what led to Wounded Knee, reconstruction, and the roots of how America became what it is now.

          Thank you very much for highlighting her work!

          10 votes
          1. Lia
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            It was a relief to discover her so I like to recommend the channel to others. I wasn't aware that Republicans used to be the ones with a backbone who stood for democracy, but the information gives...

            It was a relief to discover her so I like to recommend the channel to others.

            I wasn't aware that Republicans used to be the ones with a backbone who stood for democracy, but the information gives me hope that things can certainly change when enough ordinary people want them to.

            1 vote
    2. hobbes64
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      This is thousands of times worse than whatever was supposedly found on Hunter Biden’s laptop so I expect 24x7 coverage of it on Fox News until next spring at least.

      This is thousands of times worse than whatever was supposedly found on Hunter Biden’s laptop so I expect 24x7 coverage of it on Fox News until next spring at least.

      6 votes
  4. [3]
    KapteinB
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    The Secret Terms of Trump’s Venezuelan Oil Deal (Pro Publica)

    The Secret Terms of Trump’s Venezuelan Oil Deal (Pro Publica)

    ProPublica has reviewed a copy of the 18-page strategic partnership agreement signed for the United States by Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. The document reveals carefully constructed terms that favor U.S. interests at every turn and cements the power of a small group of people handpicked by the Trump administration to govern and profit from the deal. The role of the Venezuelan government and the potential benefits to its people are largely absent from the text.

    8 votes
    1. [2]
      Hunterquill
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      I don't get how they don't think this will turn in to Hugo Chavez 2.0, or another revolution. Also, drones are a thing now.

      I don't get how they don't think this will turn in to Hugo Chavez 2.0, or another revolution. Also, drones are a thing now.

      5 votes
      1. TheMediumJon
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        If it happens after Trump is gone (or even just lost the midterms) then obviously it's another weakness one can throw at the evil commie anti-american Dems and only Trump/Current-Republican will...

        If it happens after Trump is gone (or even just lost the midterms) then obviously it's another weakness one can throw at the evil commie anti-american Dems and only Trump/Current-Republican will save the American taxpayer?

        That, they genuinely don't expect anything they do to fail like they seem to have with Iran, or they just don't care.

        5 votes
  5. updawg
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    Trump and Vance announce $25M whistleblower program to encourage public to report alleged fraud And it will be totally unbiased:

    Trump and Vance announce $25M whistleblower program to encourage public to report alleged fraud

    And it will be totally unbiased:

    During the announcement, Trump said payments will amount to a 1% commission on the amount of fraud the tip helps uncover. Trump also said he will decide who gets reward money in cases where more than one person claims to have provided the tip.

    “I will be the arbitrator of all of these decisions,” Trump in the Oval Office with Vance and other administration officials standing behind him. “It’ll be a binding arbitration.”

    6 votes
  6. Hunterquill
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    NWLC: White House Establishes Women’s Health Division Amid Major Attacks on Women’s Health

    NWLC: White House Establishes Women’s Health Division Amid Major Attacks on Women’s Health

    “This order seemingly contradicts the administration’s absurd claims that any program focused on women constitutes ‘illegal DEI,’ and it also comes as the administration’s actions are directly causing women to lose access to vital health care. From the One Big Beautiful Bill Act’s cuts to Medicaid and the defunding of Planned Parenthood, to gutting the federal Offices of Minority Health and slashing funding for women’s health research, this administration has made it clear that it doesn’t actually care about women’s health care needs, despite what this weak executive order attempts to convey. This is an attempt to change the headlines, not women’s lives.”

    3 votes