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Re: Palantir....
Hmmmm.
I'm sure someone will defend this as sounding bad but "how do we know what they really mean?!" when really it's incredibly clear to me that this is some white Christian nationalist shit.
The whole thing is pretty vague - I suspect that's intentional to give them just enough cover to dodge specific accusations if needed while still appealing to techno-feudalists and conservatives. There's some language that seems to me to be trying to build more bridges between social conservatives and the tech right, which is troubling to me.
I mean cultural superiority of the "West" while insisting on religious freedom (but clearly not of inferior cultures) is not nearly as vague as all that IMO. The tech to conservative pivot is not new IMO this feels just like saying the quiet part.
No you're right, it's definitely pretty mask off. It just seems like there's enough vagueness for them to say "well of course we didn't mean that" if pressed
Oh there's a reason I'm sure someone can/will try to play reasonableness games with the language. They're trying to wear the mask still but it's mesh and we can see the whole face.
Justice Dept. Charges Prominent Civil Rights Group With Financial Crimes
They're charging the Southern Poverty Law Center with financial fraud for paying informants - members of the hate groups they investigate - for infiltrating the organizations and even apparently stealing documents (not clear to me that it's criminal theft if the individual had access to them.)
So this feels like a politically targeted attack on an organization that basically reports on and provides information about hate groups to the general public. I've personally expected the SPLC to get targeted by this administration.
Someone opened fire at/during the white house correspondents dinner. Trump evac'd/not shot, shooter dead, not sure of much else. I'd normally make a topic but fucking hell what's the point right?
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/crm1gm7ez30o
I'm seeing shooter in custody from your link now. (News moves fast it seems uncertain)
Still judging all those people attending the dinner though. I think it's pathetic for journalists to be there to "celebrate" how Trump is destroying the free press.
Idk we'll see.
Allegedly shooter is identified as a man from California. Allegedly had a shotgun, handgun, and multiple knives.
The only person shot was a Secret Service Agent - unclear who fired those shots as of now.
Suspect was not shot and may have been a guest at the hotel.
Wtf is this timeline even.
WTF indeed. I guess enough isn't known yet, but it seems most likely this is another person trying to get Trump. I guess this is the 3rd attempt, although I think one of them was armed but didn't get close and didn't fire?
It's very weird how this is going down. I was reading some stuff on reddit before today's incident and there were quite a few comments from people who think the attempt on Trump before the election was a hoax. Here are the arguments:
It's weird that there's yet another attempt and the secret service has messed up again.
So I'm not saying it's fake and that this is a convenient thing to distract from the war and all the news about Trump's poor polling and dementia. I just know that something weird is happening. Maybe it's because they fired a lot of competent secret service people and replaced them with less competent loyalists, as they've done almost everywhere else?
I'm just asking questions while cocking my head slightly and giving a confused Tucker Carlson face.
Edit:
I remember when Obama was elected that I was kind of terrified that a racist nut would take him out. I assumed that he would have much higher than normal danger of being assassinated than other presidents, and we know that there have been many attempts, and some successful, over the years. There were a few attempts on Obama, but none as close as these attempts on Trump.
Look, it's probably not fake, but I get why people feel suspicious about it. I'm just... Exhausted.
And hoping this isn't used to target more vulnerable people.
Agreed. It probably isn't fake. But there's so much intentional kayfabe going on that of course people are suspicious.
I'm reminded of a Twilight Zone episode The Monsters are Due on Maple Street
The point of that story is that people become suspicious of each other and tear each other apart. The antagonist in the story is fear.
In our real world, the same thing is happening, except the antagonist is the nefarious people that strategically generate the mistrust and fear. This includes Trump and the people who support him, including a right-wing media complex funded by unlimited dark money. I've got people I've known my whole life (and who used to be normal) who tell me things like the moon landings were faked because they saw a youtube video that said it was fake, or that autism is caused by vaccines, or requiring people to wear a mask to reduce the spread of an airborne virus during a pandemic was fascism. It's a post truth firehose of bullshit at all times.
Edit: Wow we are going to hear nonstop conspiracy theories for a while now -
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https://bsky.app/profile/meidastouch.com/post/3mkefstocws2g
Yeah in a flood of misinformation and being told things are fake all the time by the head of your government, it's not shocking this is where we are but also, dear gods we're going to hear about her comment forever
ETA also the fact that the entire conservative twitter sphere went all in on "this is why we need the ballroom"
Never mind the security perimeter was on a different floor, and it worked - and I guess he would have had to pre-book the room months ago and known Trump was attending if this was targeted vs opportunistic. But idk like, "wtf" remains my response.
Oh, we are going to hear lots about this guy. He is a Californian "teacher". Two things Republicans hate. Never mind he is a Christian, nor that he really was a college prep tutor. I expect lots of breathless announcements on investigations, rumours, who he is, why California is a breading ground for this sort of stuff...
Those other guys? The ones who more successfully penetrated secret service defenses? Forget about them.
Sigh.
Virginia voters approve redistricting measure backed by Democrats
Note also this opinion piece from the Washington Post
Virginia plunges America deeper into the gerrymandering abyss
This kind of piece is more evidence that the Washington Post has been corrupted since Bezos took over. There was no such negative opinion in the Post of the Texas redistricting that favored republicans and that particular gerrymandering exercise was not even put before voters.
(Re: The Post: I'm referring to this recent Tildes thread about Bezos and other billionaires which contained several threads about the effect of billionaires on the free press)
I saw the comparison of the two editorial board written editorials and they're very different in tone. These aren't different guest writers both are the board.
The Texas gerrymander freakout
(I don't have a sub so if someone else can gift or archive, please feel free)
Yup. This is mentioned in the Atlantic articles on the subject today.
Here's one: The Virginia Gerrymander Disenfranchises Republicans
Hopefully Democrats have finally learned that "When they go low, we go high" hasn't been working. The only thing Republicans understand is Tit for Tat
What does this phrase mean to you? I’ve seen people refer with derision to it before, but I’ve never understood why. I’m assuming that I must be misunderstanding something here, so I thought I might as well simply ask.
For what it’s worth, I’ve always found it reminiscent of that famous Churchill line: “You do your worst, and we will do our best.” It has never struck me as weak or placating at all, but it touches such a nerve with others that this must not be what it is being associated with.
Not OP, but in the context of the thread, it would be the previous state of affairs: republican states gerrymandered the fuck out of their seats, meanwhile California had a law that required districts be created by an independent third-paty.
Republicans went low (gerrymandering, which removes the relative voting power of particular populations), Democats went high (explicitly made sure their states were maximally fair by using algorithmic or independent districting).
The weaknesses is that means that Republicans are disproportionately powerful in the House and in state elections.
This video might help.
I wasn't sure the most appropriate place to post this article about Palantir's Manifesto that was posted over the weekend. There's nothing particularly surprising here if you've read much about Thiel's particular brand of Yarvinite madness, but it is surprising in how mask-off it is about a number of things.
This statement isn't the most extreme or specific, maybe, but it was the most surprising to me in that it seems to state plainly the feeling of this group that they are the "ruling class" of America.
I think point 6 is pretty concerning:
Apparently everyone should be a cog in the military machine. The connection from there to Congress doing something about unnecessary wars seems pretty indirect.
Yeah I've been seeing a lot of chatter about reinstating a draft coming from the right recently, which is deeply concerning to me.
Yes, it does seem like overheated ideological nonsense, but it seems like that quote is ambiguous on who the “ruling class” is. Also, who will do the forgiving and what do they mean by “decadence?” It seems like it was written to sound impressive rather than to be clear, but it’s basically a defense of being a defense contractor.
Lockheed is a defense contractor too and they don’t seem to have any need to publish overheated manifestos? They just keep building weapons. If someone goes to work for them, they know what they’re signing up for.
But assuming a defense of being a defense contractor is necessary, it’s not hard to justify. Most countries have a military. They’re going to have defense contractors, because someone has to make the weapons.
A defense contractor making artillery shells or missiles doesn’t get a say in whether they get shipped to Ukraine or are used in some more dubious cause. I wouldn’t want to work on that, but I also don’t want Ukraine to run short on artillery shells, because I don’t want the Russians to win. So I guess I’m happy that there are military contractors?
The upshot is that if you work for a military contractor, you end up as a cog in the military-industrial complex and someone else gives the orders. That’s why a lot of people don’t want to work for defense contractors and that should be okay too.
Given the sentence about free email pointing toward silicon valley, and other places in the post where they point toward a perceived need for silicon valley to take more of a lead in defense and crime prevention (plus prior knowledge of the kinds of thought these yahoos are immersed in) I feel pretty comfortable with my reading of that section. Could be that I'm wrong.
I think that’s a reference to Google, which provides free email and pulled out of Project Maven after employee protests.
They want to pretend that they are somehow superior for working on Project Maven.
And I don’t see why that market can’t be left to defense contractors. No company has to do everything, not even big tech companies.
Some good news... Judge’s repeal of Trump ban on gender-affirming care for children ‘a meaningful win for patients’, experts say
Trump fires all 24 members of the U.S. National Science Foundation’s governing body
But it's not like they were being listened to anymore anyway:
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