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Why do the English love non-League football?

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  1. [6]
    DanBC
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    So, not about the sport but I like that the video shows how gently dilapidated many English small towns are. This could be a charming building, but it's falling down....

    So, not about the sport but I like that the video shows how gently dilapidated many English small towns are. This could be a charming building, but it's falling down. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7035543,-2.2013177,3a,75y,236.12h,98.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYGdcCn5CJLfESEjNnARV8w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

    This is a great video, thank you for posting it. She does a great job of talking to people and then getting out of the way, and it's good to hear regional accents.

    6 votes
    1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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      That location has a couple of kids (I assume) flipping off the Google vehicle in front of that building. It does even strike me as dilapidated, I'm so used to American buildings in parts of cities...

      That location has a couple of kids (I assume) flipping off the Google vehicle in front of that building.

      It does even strike me as dilapidated, I'm so used to American buildings in parts of cities that aren't thriving.

      5 votes
    2. [2]
      Sodliddesu
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      I like that term, gently dilapidated, it sounds like a stiff breeze might knock it down but otherwise it'll keep standing. I don't know if it's construction or just the lack of maintenance but...

      I like that term, gently dilapidated, it sounds like a stiff breeze might knock it down but otherwise it'll keep standing.

      I don't know if it's construction or just the lack of maintenance but American buildings seem to fly past this stage and straight into the 'hasn't been habitatated in decades' look.

      4 votes
      1. DrEvergreen
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        It is likely to do with construction. England usually builds with brick and stone. Even a basic building will be more sturdy for longer than with wooden construction that is very vulnerable to...

        It is likely to do with construction. England usually builds with brick and stone. Even a basic building will be more sturdy for longer than with wooden construction that is very vulnerable to moisture and rot if not maintained.

        6 votes
    3. [2]
      Fal
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      That's actually one of the things I noticed going through the rest of her videos on local football. Even in the videos where she speaks more during the videos, she always has a section that lets...

      She does a great job of talking to people and then getting out of the way, and it's good to hear regional accents.

      That's actually one of the things I noticed going through the rest of her videos on local football. Even in the videos where she speaks more during the videos, she always has a section that lets local fans and players speak for themselves, which I think is really lovely.

      3 votes
      1. imperialismus
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        I think this is a great channel to celebrate the passion and love of local football. She actually covered my "local" derby. Bodø/Glimt is my team. They're about 5 hours away from me. Their local...

        I think this is a great channel to celebrate the passion and love of local football. She actually covered my "local" derby. Bodø/Glimt is my team. They're about 5 hours away from me. Their local rivals are Tromsø, 11 hours away. There are only two elite teams in all of Northern Norway.

        I went to this derby a couple of years ago. My father is a Tromsø fan, and I'm a Bodø/Glimt fan (I lived there as a child). May 16 is the classic date for local or regional derbies in Norway. The next day (May 17, Constitution Day) is a public holiday, so it's a convenient day for travel. My dad was wearing a Tromsø cap and we were in the home stands of Bodø/Glimt. He wasn't very popular, but the situation didn't escalate. The game ended in a last-minute equilizer, so we could have peace in the car on the five-hour drive home. Hopefully we'll make it to this year's May 16 derby. I think this is what sports is all about: you don't like your opponent, but at the same time, you respect their will to succeed.

        5 votes
  2. [2]
    TheFireTheft
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    Warning: American take ahead. Just going through the Wikipedia page on the pyramid is mindblowing to me. I thought I was an indie follower from the States when I discovered Wrexham in the National...

    Warning: American take ahead.

    Just going through the Wikipedia page on the pyramid is mindblowing to me. I thought I was an indie follower from the States when I discovered Wrexham in the National League (5th level)*. Then, I started following** a club that is currently in the Isthmian League North Division (8th level).

    *I'm not a complete Welcome to Wrexham bandwagoner... I discovered them after the acquisition announcement came out but before the documentary announcement came out.
    **Following is a loose term -- the best updates I can get are post-match tweets about the final score and photos on Instagram a few days later...

    But it goes SO much deeper than that. Below the Isthmian League is the Combined Counties League (levels 9/10). Below those are, let's pick one, the Hampshire Premier League (levels 11/12). And it just keeps going. And to think, everyone gets a chance at the FA Cup!

    There's no comparison with sports in the USA since we don't use promotion/relegation, but maybe one could compare the levels of the pyramid to college football teams, roughly based on attendance sizes. FBS teams would be Premier League teams (actually NFL teams, but bear with me for the sake of this dumb thought experiment). FCS teams, perhaps League 1 or 2? Directional U-type schools, perhaps National League North/South? Junior Colleges, perhaps levels 10+?

    Luton Town's rise from National League to PL would then be akin to Southwestern Oklahoma State (the fightin' SWOSU Bulldogs) rising through the ranks up to FBS, and the Luton result against Liverpool today would be akin to SWOSU hanging in there, but ultimately being bested by the University of Michigan. Can you imagine an SEC team having to travel to Weatherford, Oklahoma to play on a muddy field with a few bleachers (a.k.a. PL teams playing at Luton)?!

    It's a really awesome system and I wish we had something comparable in the States. Until then, I'll keep following my Isthmian League team in hopes that they will get promoted to where one day I'll actually be able to stream one of their games.

    6 votes
    1. steezyaspie
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      I would love to see promotion/relegation in American leagues for other sports. I think the most feasible major sports (other than soccer) would be baseball and basketball. Football and Hockey just...

      I would love to see promotion/relegation in American leagues for other sports. I think the most feasible major sports (other than soccer) would be baseball and basketball. Football and Hockey just have too high a barrier to entry for equipment, and for hockey facilities are not nearly accessible enough to enable the depth of league structure that EFL has.

      5 votes