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r/Onlyfans101 mods are currently manipulating tons of NSFW subreddits

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  1. [4]
    nukeman
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    I know, I know, it’s r/SubredditDrama, but I stumbled upon this absolutely wild post. Essentially, it seems a Reddit Admin is banning many NSFW subs (often without notification to the affected...

    I know, I know, it’s r/SubredditDrama, but I stumbled upon this absolutely wild post. Essentially, it seems a Reddit Admin is banning many NSFW subs (often without notification to the affected moderators), getting it transferred to RedditRequest (bypassing the normal 30-day waiting period), and assigning a particular set of mods. The suspicion is that they all work for the same OnlyFans agency, and are semi-monetizing the affected subs to funnel traffic toward their OF accounts.

    Rant: I’m sick and tired of interesting, organic content being taken over and monetized into low quality junk.

    10 votes
    1. cloud_loud
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      Not that I browsed many NSFW subs or even did it often, but it seemed like most of them were hubs for OnlyFans promotion anyway.

      Not that I browsed many NSFW subs or even did it often, but it seemed like most of them were hubs for OnlyFans promotion anyway.

      7 votes
    2. [2]
      DanBC
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      Reddit's in a weird situation, mostly of their own causing. Reddit admins say "anything goes". Users post child sexual abuse material, or bestiality, or sexual violence. Reddit admins say...

      Reddit's in a weird situation, mostly of their own causing.

      1. Reddit admins say "anything goes".

      2. Users post child sexual abuse material, or bestiality, or sexual violence.

      3. Reddit admins say "obviously not that", and ban a few subreddits and users.

      4. Users post borderline CSE material, or non-consensual material, or other really awful content.

      5. Reddit admins say "come on, not that either"

      6. Because of the proliferation of poorly moderated user generated content across a range of sites law makers, regulators, advertisers, and payment processors are all more sensitive to certain types of content.

      And now Reddit's in the situation where they need to keep certain content off the site or they risk financial harm to their business.

      Reddit's tried the experiment of just letting users set up porn subreddits, and it failed horribly because so many people set up subs that were explicitly about harassing women or posting non-consensual imagery or sexualising children or whatever.

      I'm kind of surprised they haven't split off the porn to a different site - XXXedit and Reddit.

      3 votes
      1. Bullmaestro
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        It's more like Reddit's founders intended the site to be a place of open discussion, and then the community did whatever it could to stretch the limits of free speech. This goes way beyond porn,...

        It's more like Reddit's founders intended the site to be a place of open discussion, and then the community did whatever it could to stretch the limits of free speech.

        This goes way beyond porn, and I think a lot of the problems people have with Reddit staff and how they run the site is that their content policy is incredibly reactionary. Almost everything that is banned on Reddit came out of scandals which drew lots of negative press to the brand. My problem with Reddit is that their laissez-faire approach towards running the site feels lazy, disingenuous and like they're giving a small sect of community moderators almost total free reign to purge anybody they disagree with.

        What I'm looking for with a social news aggregator is something no other site is really offering: a place for open discussion where inciting racial, religious and ideological hatred isn't tolerated from the get-go.

        6 votes
  2. [6]
    Bullmaestro
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    Honestly... I think OnlyFans has ruined the NSFW side of Reddit. The appeal of many porn subs was that they featured content from exhibitionist amateurs who were doing it not for money but for the...

    Honestly... I think OnlyFans has ruined the NSFW side of Reddit.

    The appeal of many porn subs was that they featured content from exhibitionist amateurs who were doing it not for money but for the thrill of being masturbatory fuel for thousands. Gonewild and Gonemild notably ban users who monetise their pornographic content, but many others don't. And it's honestly quite dismaying when you go to many other subs and they've been astroturfed by e-girls using Reddit as a marketing tool to plug their OF.

    Why am I against OF? Because of the ludicrously high prices you're paying to subscribe to a single creator (porn is freely and widely available on the internet, and many porn sites charge a subscription fee to access a catalog of premium studio grade stuff), along with the elements of findom and psychological exploitation associated with the platform. That, and they've almost knowingly turned a blind eye to minors using the platform to effectively distribute CP.

    I would not be surprised in the slightest if Reddit staff were in cahoots with these porn stars and their agencies. May I add that what a lot of these models do is in direct violation of Reddit's content policy on spam/self-promotion, yet it seems nobody on the site's payroll can be bothered to actually enforce their own rules.

    Of course the reason why GW and GM haven't been axed is because they're large subreddits with millions of subscribers. There is no way you could subtly pull something like this off.

    10 votes
    1. shiruken
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      Reddit ended the "self-promotion" rule at least 5 years ago and now openly welcomes creators to directly promote their content. The addition of integrated Patreon widgets back in October 2018...

      direct violation of Reddit's content policy on spam/self-promotion

      Reddit ended the "self-promotion" rule at least 5 years ago and now openly welcomes creators to directly promote their content. The addition of integrated Patreon widgets back in October 2018 showed Reddit's shifting attitude towards creator monetization. During the recent Mod Summit, spez explicitly stated that Reddit wants creators to monetize on the platform:

      I want our users, user-users and moderator users, to make money on reddit. Specifically, I want them to make money from other users. And so we need to have business models where users are paying money to other users or to subreddits. I would like subreddits to have the ability to be businesses. We have a lot of subreddits that are kind of trying to do this, but the platform just doesn't support it.

      8 votes
    2. Wes
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      Reddit has been extremely hands off regarding self-promotion for 5-6 years. That goes for all kinds of content, not just the NSFW variety. I don't see any reason to believe they're in cahoots with...

      May I add that what a lot of these models do is in direct violation of Reddit's content policy on spam/self-promotion, yet it seems nobody on the site's payroll can be bothered to actually enforce their own rules.

      Reddit has been extremely hands off regarding self-promotion for 5-6 years. That goes for all kinds of content, not just the NSFW variety. I don't see any reason to believe they're in cahoots with anybody.

      4 votes
    3. [3]
      teaearlgraycold
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      Does it really matter? I would hazard to guess there’s more free porn than ever before.

      Does it really matter? I would hazard to guess there’s more free porn than ever before.

      3 votes
      1. [2]
        Bullmaestro
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        I'd say yeah for three reasons. This stuff seeps into platforms that otherwise ban pornographic content. Twitch and some dating apps are good examples of places that have been astroturfed by...

        I'd say yeah for three reasons.

        1. This stuff seeps into platforms that otherwise ban pornographic content. Twitch and some dating apps are good examples of places that have been astroturfed by alt-models.
        2. If Reddit admins are getting directly involved in this, it harms the integrity of the platform as a whole.
        3. The porn industry in general has been hit with a puritanal attack from all sides, yet OnlyFans seem to have eluded a lot of this.

        I would hazard to guess there’s more free porn than ever before.

        Lots of content was purged from Mindgeek's sites out of pressure from external stakeholders to remove illegal content that was discovered. Only verified users can actually post content to PornHub and others. Mindgeek remain blacklisted from taking credit or debit card payments despite this.

        Tumblr straight-up banned pornography (which was a huge part of their platform) because Apple found CSAM on the site, removed their iOS app from the App Store and basically told them they had to ban porn outright. Initially I thought this was a lie but Discord have faced similar pressure from Apple to make NSFW servers inaccessible from the iOS app. How long before Tim Cook discovers there's porn on Reddit and tries to strong-arm Steve Huffman into removing it too.

        12 votes
        1. Wolf
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          TikTok is also full of these wannabe egirls that try to break TOS as much as they can without getting banned. They get really creative when it comes to promoting their OF, but thankfully the...

          TikTok is also full of these wannabe egirls that try to break TOS as much as they can without getting banned. They get really creative when it comes to promoting their OF, but thankfully the TikTok is pretty good at detecting and not recommending that stuff to you if you don't wanna see it.

          5 votes
  3. guts
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    I still feel the big loss of Tumblr removing NSFW content, there was an artistic side of it without the monetization as OF.

    I still feel the big loss of Tumblr removing NSFW content, there was an artistic side of it without the monetization as OF.

    5 votes
  4. JXM
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    It wouldn’t surprise me to learn there was an organized group trying to push certain OnlyFans content and removing others. There’s enough money to be made in porn that people will exploit any...

    It wouldn’t surprise me to learn there was an organized group trying to push certain OnlyFans content and removing others. There’s enough money to be made in porn that people will exploit any niche they can.

    So much of Reddit is now just designed to sell things (not just from Reddit themselves, but others manipulating Reddit to sell/boost whatever they want to sell).

    3 votes