33 votes

Using winutil or MicroWin to disable Windows Recall is breaking File Explorer

12 comments

  1. [10]
    Wes
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    This is silly. You don't disable a feature by ripping out code at random and seeing what breaks. You do it by uninstalling it in the Optional Features settings menu. That works fine, and is what...

    This is silly. You don't disable a feature by ripping out code at random and seeing what breaks. You do it by uninstalling it in the Optional Features settings menu. That works fine, and is what Microsoft recommends to uninstall Recall.

    31 votes
    1. [4]
      Lexinonymous
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      In my experience, Microsoft doesn't understand "no" and chooses to interpret it as "not yet." I've had programs I've removed/disabled the "correct" way get shoved in my face again on update - or...

      In my experience, Microsoft doesn't understand "no" and chooses to interpret it as "not yet." I've had programs I've removed/disabled the "correct" way get shoved in my face again on update - or automatically reinstalled/updated.

      30 votes
      1. [3]
        kingofsnake
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        Which is hilarious since more and more opt out messages use some version of "Not yet", I'm opting out for now" or "I'm deleting my account temporarily" as their "No" option. Like, it's just a...

        Which is hilarious since more and more opt out messages use some version of "Not yet", I'm opting out for now" or "I'm deleting my account temporarily" as their "No" option.

        Like, it's just a prompt but fuck you guys. I paid for this OS - how dare you keep your grubby hands attached to my purchase.

        11 votes
        1. [2]
          Akir
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          I think that those kinds of messages should be the first and last sign to not do business with a company. The ability to say no is a fundamental human right. If they don't respect you, they sure...

          I think that those kinds of messages should be the first and last sign to not do business with a company. The ability to say no is a fundamental human right. If they don't respect you, they sure as hell don't deserve to make money off you - regardless of if you're paying or if advertisers are.

          (Though I would put an exception on security related issues, i.e. setting up a 2FA method).

          4 votes
          1. kingofsnake
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            Absolutely, and I'd fully engage my right to choose if there was a comparable choice out there.

            Absolutely, and I'd fully engage my right to choose if there was a comparable choice out there.

            4 votes
    2. vord
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      Though to be fair, there's a lot of Windows "features" that can't be uninstalled via proper means. A lot of stuff needs registry hacks to be genuinely disabled or removed.

      Though to be fair, there's a lot of Windows "features" that can't be uninstalled via proper means. A lot of stuff needs registry hacks to be genuinely disabled or removed.

      24 votes
    3. [2]
      JXM
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      Yeah. I’m someone who sees Recall as an awful idea from a privacy and security standpoint but this article is basically, “I didn’t follow the proper recommended procedure and it broke stuff.” It...

      Yeah. I’m someone who sees Recall as an awful idea from a privacy and security standpoint but this article is basically, “I didn’t follow the proper recommended procedure and it broke stuff.”

      It would be one thing if Microsoft didn’t offer an official way to remove Recall, but it does.

      A more accurate title would be “Improper removal of Recall can break Explorer”.

      10 votes
      1. cfabbro
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        Yeah, the title is definitely clickbait. I edited it to be more accurate. cc: @Wes

        Yeah, the title is definitely clickbait. I edited it to be more accurate. cc: @Wes

        5 votes
    4. [2]
      trim
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      It does allude to how tightly Recall is integrated into something as fundamental as Explorer though. And it's not unheard of for Windows to so-called accidentally re-enable some things you've...

      It does allude to how tightly Recall is integrated into something as fundamental as Explorer though. And it's not unheard of for Windows to so-called accidentally re-enable some things you've so-called turned off (because how can you really know what those sliders and feature switches do anyway).

      Microsoft deserve no benefit of the doubt whatsoever.

      8 votes
      1. 0x29A
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        This. Would not be surprised if Recall gets re-enabled with every single damn Windows Update like a lot of their other garbage. I've literally "uninstalled" OneDrive before just to have it...

        This. Would not be surprised if Recall gets re-enabled with every single damn Windows Update like a lot of their other garbage. I've literally "uninstalled" OneDrive before just to have it force-reinstall after reboot, so I wouldn't be surprised. I hate MS with the fire of a thousand suns (and thankfully have abandoned MS products everywhere I feasibly can)

        2 votes
  2. [2]
    ingannilo
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    Just curious: I recently did a fresh install of win 11 pro, almost exactly one week ago. I wasn't prompted with the opt-in dialog for Recall any time in the install. Certainly this is a feature...

    Just curious: I recently did a fresh install of win 11 pro, almost exactly one week ago. I wasn't prompted with the opt-in dialog for Recall any time in the install. Certainly this is a feature that I don't want active. Is there any way to know if recall is running/enabled?

    I read through the link posted by /u/Wes but did not see anything about how to remove or disable recall aside from declining the opt-in prompt that's supposed to show during the windows install/setup process.

    1 vote
    1. Wes
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      Did you buy a "Copilot+" PC? Only those specific ARM-based machines will even support Recall. The majority of users will not have the option, unless support expands to x86 PCs in the future.

      Did you buy a "Copilot+" PC? Only those specific ARM-based machines will even support Recall. The majority of users will not have the option, unless support expands to x86 PCs in the future.

      4 votes