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Hiring in tech is harder than ever. AI isn’t helping.

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  1. [4]
    chocobean
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    Oh wow actual advice! Absolutely! Don't complain to me you're getting a bunch of $300k people at the second round for your junior position - you did this to yourself The shortest ones are scams:...

    Oh wow actual advice!

    Hiring experts also recommend sharing the actual salary range, not obfuscating state pay transparency laws with ranges like “$85,000-$285,000.” A better match of financial expectations leads to higher-quality applications

    Absolutely! Don't complain to me you're getting a bunch of $300k people at the second round for your junior position - you did this to yourself

    Longer job descriptions attract fewer applicants. According to Appcast research, job descriptions over 701 words result in application rates of less than 5%.

    The shortest ones are scams: "work from home up to $100k/yr no exp!" Some of the not scams are worded not much better.

    And brown M&Ms. So weird in this landscape of AI talking to AI, we need a secret handshake to engage with real humans.

    32 votes
    1. [2]
      scherlock
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      Just AI talking to AI and people wondering why it all sucks

      Just AI talking to AI and people wondering why it all sucks

      13 votes
      1. Perryapsis
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        Meanwhile, I, a real person (not actor™), can't seem to get through to anybody because they either assume that I am AI, or they are using AI themselves. :(

        Meanwhile, I, a real person (not actor™), can't seem to get through to anybody because they either assume that I am AI, or they are using AI themselves. :(

        6 votes
    2. raze2012
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      well, they seem to refuse to meet in-person, so this is the next best step, I suppose.

      So weird in this landscape of AI talking to AI, we need a secret handshake to engage with real humans.

      well, they seem to refuse to meet in-person, so this is the next best step, I suppose.

      6 votes
  2. [3]
    Rudism
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    This made me think of the Angela Collier video where she makes fun of the CEO of Zoom for saying he envisions a future where you can send an "AI clone" of yourself to meetings that you don't want...

    But the logical extension of that practice is humans using AI tools to fill in job applications that an AI evaluates. Nobody believes that’s the ideal path, except perhaps the tool vendors.

    This made me think of the Angela Collier video where she makes fun of the CEO of Zoom for saying he envisions a future where you can send an "AI clone" of yourself to meetings that you don't want to attend yourself, which when taken to its inevitable conclusion would see a bunch of AI clones having Zoom meetings with each other while all the humans are at the beach. It's like a future is being laid out before us where AIs are used to apply to the jobs, AIs are deciding who gets the jobs, and then AIs are also the ones showing up to do the jobs.

    27 votes
    1. Minori
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      I knew Zoom was cooked when they backtracked on WFH. They're clearly lost and don't believe in their products.

      I knew Zoom was cooked when they backtracked on WFH. They're clearly lost and don't believe in their products.

      15 votes
    2. sparksbet
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      That metaphor reminds me so much of Slavoj Zizek's ideal date (warning: some nsfw language).

      That metaphor reminds me so much of Slavoj Zizek's ideal date (warning: some nsfw language).

      4 votes
  3. [3]
    asteroid
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    Inspired by a discussion here on Tildes. Thank you all so much!

    Inspired by a discussion here on Tildes. Thank you all so much!

    19 votes
    1. unkz
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      Lol you’re welcome

      Lol you’re welcome

      3 votes
    2. Baeocystin
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      You did a great writeup, thanks for posting your article for us! :)

      You did a great writeup, thanks for posting your article for us! :)

      3 votes
  4. raze2012
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    If most jobs were actually hiring I may feel more sympathetic. But as is, there's a lot of darks arts being used in tech and many other industries to grab resume information and stifle wages. If...

    If most jobs were actually hiring I may feel more sympathetic. But as is, there's a lot of darks arts being used in tech and many other industries to grab resume information and stifle wages. If automation is becoming more a pain than it's worth, maybe it's time to go back to face-to-face. They spend my generation rejecting the personal touch and to "just apply online" (even at career fairs!) and wonder why Goodhart's law was achieved. And then automated as they try to automate hiring.

    The Brown M&M approach mentioned at the end is a decent idea if in-person is still untenable. There are easy tasks for humans to do that AI melts down with that can help try to filter out the low effort applications. Cover letters are useless (my first two jobs outright told me at one point they never read mine), but some sort of "are you paying attention" curveball can at least assure you more often than not that there was a human on the other side.

    10 votes