Tbh this is more because the RCS standard is updating. Apple allowed RCS messages last year (prior to that it was just MMS), but they wouldn't be encrypted. Now we have options for RCS encryption...
Tbh this is more because the RCS standard is updating. Apple allowed RCS messages last year (prior to that it was just MMS), but they wouldn't be encrypted. Now we have options for RCS encryption outside of Apple->Apple and Google->Google messages.
RCS updating to have encryption (as a standard via GSMA) is a direct result of Apple though. They were the ones that made a big push for it, even if they had to be forced into adopting RCS.
RCS updating to have encryption (as a standard via GSMA) is a direct result of Apple though. They were the ones that made a big push for it, even if they had to be forced into adopting RCS.
They did claim they would work with the group maintaining the standard to get it implemented and support it, which I believed, though I didn't expect it to happen as fast as it seems it is. I...
They did claim they would work with the group maintaining the standard to get it implemented and support it, which I believed, though I didn't expect it to happen as fast as it seems it is.
I still fault Apple for taking as long as they did to support RCS to begin with because they were leveraging iMessage & blue/green bubble SMS failures to pressure people into buying iPhones for basic communication with their social groups.
They may have indeed been leveraging SMS for green bubble marketing, but at the same time I can totally see why they weren’t exactly rushing to support a new standard that still unnecessarily...
They may have indeed been leveraging SMS for green bubble marketing, but at the same time I can totally see why they weren’t exactly rushing to support a new standard that still unnecessarily involves carriers and still has SMS’ woeful security/privacy issues. We’d all have been better off if instead of standardizing on RCS, Google and Apple agreed on something more similar to Signal, WhatsApp, or iMessage which treats carriers like the dumb pipes they are but desperately want to be more than.
Given that I am still waiting for my iPhone to work with plain ol'e unencrypted RCS on my carrier, I'm utterly unenthused to hear this. Presumably the latest iOS beta has it working but I've heard...
Given that I am still waiting for my iPhone to work with plain ol'e unencrypted RCS on my carrier, I'm utterly unenthused to hear this.
Presumably the latest iOS beta has it working but I've heard it's still very buggy.
Is your carrier listed as supported, but it's not working for you? I haven't hit many bugs with RCS after the first month, but Apple has a list of carriers and whether or not iPhone can use RCS on...
Based on them saying "Presumably the latest iOS beta has it working but I've heard it's still very buggy", they have an MVNO (like Mint, Tello, Google Fi, etc). They didn't have any support for...
Based on them saying "Presumably the latest iOS beta has it working but I've heard it's still very buggy", they have an MVNO (like Mint, Tello, Google Fi, etc). They didn't have any support for RCS on iPhone until just the past few weeks, and it's still in beta.
Thanks, I wasn't aware that each iOS version was bringing in new support for carriers. Wonder what the hold up was for these MNVOs. Visible is an MNVO and has had RCS support for a while now, so...
Thanks, I wasn't aware that each iOS version was bringing in new support for carriers. Wonder what the hold up was for these MNVOs. Visible is an MNVO and has had RCS support for a while now, so is it down to each carrier to add support?
I believe all of the MVNOs that had no support until the current beta that I am aware of use T-Mobile. From a 2-second DuckDuckGo search, it seems Visible is Verizon based instead, it's even owned...
I believe all of the MVNOs that had no support until the current beta that I am aware of use T-Mobile. From a 2-second DuckDuckGo search, it seems Visible is Verizon based instead, it's even owned outright by Verizon? I would assume adding support for RCS is an effort between Apple, the MVNO, and the parent carrier (T-Mobile or Verison) all doing something on their respective ends, and for the Mint and Tello type companies that might have been more difficult.
I honestly assumed Apple would never do this, so I'm happy to be wrong.
Tbh this is more because the RCS standard is updating. Apple allowed RCS messages last year (prior to that it was just MMS), but they wouldn't be encrypted. Now we have options for RCS encryption outside of Apple->Apple and Google->Google messages.
RCS updating to have encryption (as a standard via GSMA) is a direct result of Apple though. They were the ones that made a big push for it, even if they had to be forced into adopting RCS.
I'm aware, I just assumed Apple would never make it a priority. Happy to soon have encrypted messages with my wife.
They did claim they would work with the group maintaining the standard to get it implemented and support it, which I believed, though I didn't expect it to happen as fast as it seems it is.
I still fault Apple for taking as long as they did to support RCS to begin with because they were leveraging iMessage & blue/green bubble SMS failures to pressure people into buying iPhones for basic communication with their social groups.
They may have indeed been leveraging SMS for green bubble marketing, but at the same time I can totally see why they weren’t exactly rushing to support a new standard that still unnecessarily involves carriers and still has SMS’ woeful security/privacy issues. We’d all have been better off if instead of standardizing on RCS, Google and Apple agreed on something more similar to Signal, WhatsApp, or iMessage which treats carriers like the dumb pipes they are but desperately want to be more than.
Given that I am still waiting for my iPhone to work with plain ol'e unencrypted RCS on my carrier, I'm utterly unenthused to hear this.
Presumably the latest iOS beta has it working but I've heard it's still very buggy.
Is your carrier listed as supported, but it's not working for you? I haven't hit many bugs with RCS after the first month, but Apple has a list of carriers and whether or not iPhone can use RCS on that carrier.
Based on them saying "Presumably the latest iOS beta has it working but I've heard it's still very buggy", they have an MVNO (like Mint, Tello, Google Fi, etc). They didn't have any support for RCS on iPhone until just the past few weeks, and it's still in beta.
Thanks, I wasn't aware that each iOS version was bringing in new support for carriers. Wonder what the hold up was for these MNVOs. Visible is an MNVO and has had RCS support for a while now, so is it down to each carrier to add support?
I believe all of the MVNOs that had no support until the current beta that I am aware of use T-Mobile. From a 2-second DuckDuckGo search, it seems Visible is Verizon based instead, it's even owned outright by Verizon? I would assume adding support for RCS is an effort between Apple, the MVNO, and the parent carrier (T-Mobile or Verison) all doing something on their respective ends, and for the Mint and Tello type companies that might have been more difficult.