14 votes

Android Q is officially named Android 10

33 comments

  1. [7]
    moocow1452
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    I was kinda looking forward to Android Quiche, but I suppose there are only so many desserts in the world.

    I was kinda looking forward to Android Quiche, but I suppose there are only so many desserts in the world.

    16 votes
    1. JakeTheDog
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      Oh my god, right? They only had a handful of letters left! They could have just finished it and then done the numbers. At least they're not calling it "X".

      Oh my god, right? They only had a handful of letters left! They could have just finished it and then done the numbers.

      At least they're not calling it "X".

      10 votes
    2. [5]
      PetitPrince
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      But quiche is not a dessert ?

      But quiche is not a dessert ?

      1. [4]
        moocow1452
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        You're not trying hard enough then. https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/10/french-in-a-flash-sweet-vanilla-quiche-recipe.html
        3 votes
        1. [3]
          PetitPrince
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          That would be a flan pâtissier. For any francophone a quiche is a salty pie with an egg-and-cream-based filling, probably with added bacon (quiche lorraine), leek (one of my fav) and/or cheese...

          That would be a flan pâtissier.

          For any francophone a quiche is a salty pie with an egg-and-cream-based filling, probably with added bacon (quiche lorraine), leek (one of my fav) and/or cheese (there's never enough cheese).

          But the flan pâtissier would be considered a quiche, if you accept that a rice pudding is a sweet risotto. All in all, they're all equally delicious (except rice pudding, I really don't like that).

          Also, from a marketing perspective quiche is the french slang for an idiot and/or someone who's bad at something ("Je suis une quiche en sport." <-> "I'm bad at sports").

          9 votes
          1. [2]
            JakeTheDog
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            I must ask, since you appear to have the expertise; can you share your favorite recipes? Whatever you want. The leek one maybe too?

            I must ask, since you appear to have the expertise; can you share your favorite recipes? Whatever you want. The leek one maybe too?

            1. Adys
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              I personally love Quiche lorraine: https://www.papillesetpupilles.fr/2005/07/quiche-lorraine.html/ The only problem is that my tolerance to egg is fairly low; they quickly nauseate me. So a good...

              I personally love Quiche lorraine: https://www.papillesetpupilles.fr/2005/07/quiche-lorraine.html/

              The only problem is that my tolerance to egg is fairly low; they quickly nauseate me. So a good quiche needs to have a fair bit of herbs and/or meat filling otherwise it's just too … uh, "ecœurant" as we say in french.

  2. [22]
    alexandre9099
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    Android is turning into a pile of shit IMO. WPS, removed Quick settings dropdown (to check wifi networks or data usage without getting out of an app), removed Recent apps are now in a really...

    Android is turning into a pile of shit IMO.

    WPS, removed
    Quick settings dropdown (to check wifi networks or data usage without getting out of an app), removed
    Recent apps are now in a really awkward way
    What else would be removed? Can't they keep the features?

    11 votes
    1. [7]
      spctrvl
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      One of the ones I don't see brought up much was making the battery monitor awful in Lollipop (and later releases). Back in KitKat, the battery monitor would show you a breakdown of what apps and...

      One of the ones I don't see brought up much was making the battery monitor awful in Lollipop (and later releases). Back in KitKat, the battery monitor would show you a breakdown of what apps and processes had used what percentage of the discharged battery. So if you were sitting at 70%, and half of your power usage had been the screen, it would read: Screen: 50%. Now it shows percentage of the total battery capacity, so in the same scenario, it would read: Screen: 15%. Throw in cutoffs for low percentages, and it becomes pretty difficult to find out what apps are using the most power unless you let your phone discharge completely. Even then, there's usually a full 30% or more that's totally unaccounted for.

      9 votes
      1. [6]
        alexandre9099
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        exactly, i am yet to downgrade, but i need to first backup all the data, and unfortunately i don't have much time to do so

        exactly, i am yet to downgrade, but i need to first backup all the data, and unfortunately i don't have much time to do so

        1. [5]
          spctrvl
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          I'm probably not going to be downgrading myself any time soon, but I'm watching the development of true Linux smartphones very closely. If the PinePhone or Librem 5 have proper carrier support in...

          I'm probably not going to be downgrading myself any time soon, but I'm watching the development of true Linux smartphones very closely. If the PinePhone or Librem 5 have proper carrier support in my area, I'm jumping ship without a second thought.

          7 votes
          1. [4]
            Akir
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            I know this is pedantic, but Android is Linux. I know in the past they used to use a specially patched version of the kernel, but they've been using the mainline kernels for years now. What,...

            I know this is pedantic, but Android is Linux. I know in the past they used to use a specially patched version of the kernel, but they've been using the mainline kernels for years now. What, specifically, are you looking for in a Linux phone? If you're just looking for the user experience, you could try something like UserLAnd and install the distribution of your choice.

            2 votes
            1. [3]
              spctrvl
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              I wasn't aware of userLAnd. Not sure it's quite what I'm looking for, but I'll definitely take a look. Anyway, I'm quite aware android runs the Linux kernel, I said true Linux because I blanked on...

              I wasn't aware of userLAnd. Not sure it's quite what I'm looking for, but I'll definitely take a look.

              Anyway, I'm quite aware android runs the Linux kernel, I said true Linux because I blanked on the term GNU/Linux. What I want is basically to just have a standard GNU/Linux distribution on my phone, and all that entails in terms of customizability, openness, software updates, and performance.

              3 votes
              1. [2]
                Akir
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                I'm fairly sure that Android also has a number of the GNU utilities as well, or at least busybox. And I am fairly sure you can install any linux program with a CLI if you root your device. I would...

                I'm fairly sure that Android also has a number of the GNU utilities as well, or at least busybox. And I am fairly sure you can install any linux program with a CLI if you root your device. I would imagine you would have difficulty getting X to work because every mobile GPU is basically a black box.

                3 votes
                1. spctrvl
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                  Yeah, getting X and X applications working is pretty much the key thing, sorry if I've been vague about that, and that's why I'm so interested in the PinePhone and Librem 5. I've got a terminal...

                  I would imagine you would have difficulty getting X to work because every mobile GPU is basically a black box.

                  Yeah, getting X and X applications working is pretty much the key thing, sorry if I've been vague about that, and that's why I'm so interested in the PinePhone and Librem 5. I've got a terminal emulator on my phone, and I've used it a bit, but while it provides a familiar experience, it's super impractical. What I'm going for is access to the full software library of an ARM Linux distro, or at least as much as can be adapted for use on a touchscreen. And while it would be great if I could somehow manage to do that through android, I'd still much prefer to run a regular, honest-to-god Linux distro, since the experience would be more cohesive, performance would be better, and I wouldn't be running an OS developed by an advertising company.

                  1 vote
    2. [6]
      JXM
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      When did that happen? It still shows that info in the quick settings panel on my wife's phone running the latest OnePlus build.

      Quick settings dropdown (to check wifi networks or data usage without getting out of an app), removed

      When did that happen? It still shows that info in the quick settings panel on my wife's phone running the latest OnePlus build.

      5 votes
      1. [5]
        alexandre9099
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        On lineageOS it was removed on oreo (9), as it is based on AOSP i would assume it was removed from the main code. Maybe OPO has some kind of custom rom that has the feature? The only thing i kinda...

        On lineageOS it was removed on oreo (9), as it is based on AOSP i would assume it was removed from the main code.

        Maybe OPO has some kind of custom rom that has the feature?

        The only thing i kinda like on oreo is the "zoom" when selecting text

        1. [2]
          fandegw
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          It has been re-enabled in LineageOS : https://lineageos.org/Changelog-23/

          It has been re-enabled in LineageOS : https://lineageos.org/Changelog-23/

          Expanded quick settings are back
          Detailed views for the following tiles are available: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Mobile Data, Location, Profiles

          4 votes
          1. alexandre9099
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            Nice, i'll try to give it an update then ;)

            Nice, i'll try to give it an update then ;)

            1 vote
        2. [2]
          ntgg
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          I have a OP6, and I don't have a quick setting drop-down anymore. My old phone was on Android 7 and had that feature but it was gone when I upgraded.

          I have a OP6, and I don't have a quick setting drop-down anymore. My old phone was on Android 7 and had that feature but it was gone when I upgraded.

          1. AugustusFerdinand
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            I've got an Android One device and still have it.

            I've got an Android One device and still have it.

            1 vote
    3. [6]
      unknown user
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      Removal of wps is fair I think, its not very secure. The rest not so much

      Removal of wps is fair I think, its not very secure.

      The rest not so much

      4 votes
      1. Jedi
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        I agree the removal of in-QS settings is unfortunate, but that's it. The new recents menu is IMO far better. For one, it allows the gestures (which in 10 is much improved), and for two, you can...

        I agree the removal of in-QS settings is unfortunate, but that's it. The new recents menu is IMO far better. For one, it allows the gestures (which in 10 is much improved), and for two, you can now OCR copy text/share images from apps. Yes, it isn't as space-efficient, but it's that way for good reasons.

        4 votes
      2. [4]
        alexandre9099
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        How is it "not secure"? I understand that it is not really secure in the case of "protecting" the network, but in a client side of things? how would it be insecure?

        How is it "not secure"? I understand that it is not really secure in the case of "protecting" the network, but in a client side of things? how would it be insecure?

        1 vote
        1. [3]
          unknown user
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          I'm not sure if it's technically insecure (e.g. easier for someone to get onto your network by sitting outside your house with a laptop). I just know that a single button that can allow anyone to...

          I'm not sure if it's technically insecure (e.g. easier for someone to get onto your network by sitting outside your house with a laptop).

          I just know that a single button that can allow anyone to connect isn't a great idea. Especially with friends over. I want to know who is connecting what to my network.

          E: oh and and a quick web search says the default pin is easy to brute force. So there's that I guess

          1 vote
          1. [2]
            alexandre9099
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            i mean, is it a problem for android itself? Disabling the clients would be just stupid... The network administrator is the one that should disable WPS if they don't want WPS

            i mean, is it a problem for android itself? Disabling the clients would be just stupid... The network administrator is the one that should disable WPS if they don't want WPS

            1. unknown user
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              You are correct. But most users wont switch it off or even know what it does.

              You are correct. But most users wont switch it off or even know what it does.

              1 vote
    4. [2]
      FrankGrimes
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      I don't mind them changing defaults, but I want to be able to have settings. Gestures are a good example - I don't care if Android goes to having gestures as the default, but I want to have the...

      I don't mind them changing defaults, but I want to be able to have settings. Gestures are a good example - I don't care if Android goes to having gestures as the default, but I want to have the ability to use the 3 button navigation. It's what brought me to Android in the first place - lots and lots of settings.

      1. alexandre9099
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        exactly, i don't mind if they add stuff, but why remove it? Its kinda like windows 8, why would they remove the start menu? it was amazing where it was... then came windows 10, which mixed the...

        I want to have the ability to use the 3 button navigation

        exactly, i don't mind if they add stuff, but why remove it? Its kinda like windows 8, why would they remove the start menu? it was amazing where it was... then came windows 10, which mixed the shitty windows 8 with windows 7 :D

        Anyway, it seems like the quicksettings dropdown was added again on lineage, i got to upgrade to test it ;)

        1 vote
  3. JXM
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    It looks like after a decade, Google is switching to a numbered release system for their operating system in lieu of dessert names. (I know they've always had names like Android 2.2 Jellybean but...

    It looks like after a decade, Google is switching to a numbered release system for their operating system in lieu of dessert names.

    (I know they've always had names like Android 2.2 Jellybean but that was never how they promoted things and it was mostly for developers.)

    5 votes
  4. json
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    "Couldn't find a dessert name starting with Q. Fuck it, we'll use numbers."

    "Couldn't find a dessert name starting with Q. Fuck it, we'll use numbers."

    5 votes
  5. [2]
    Bullmaestro
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    Is that literally the same font that Reddit uses in their logo?

    Is that literally the same font that Reddit uses in their logo?

    1. unknown user
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      Not even close. Reddit's typeface has significantly more rounded terminals.

      Not even close. Reddit's typeface has significantly more rounded terminals.

      1 vote