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ARM: UK-based chip designer sold to Nvidia

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  1. [4]
    stu2b50
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    From a geopolitical POV, once again more tech is centralized around the US. Seriously, Europe has to be sweating; it's not the 1980s, technological infrastracture is huge and critical for everyday...

    From a geopolitical POV, once again more tech is centralized around the US. Seriously, Europe has to be sweating; it's not the 1980s, technological infrastracture is huge and critical for everyday life, and almost all of it--from hardware to software--is owned either in the US, or Asia.

    US entities now own all major ISCs (x86 from Intel, x86-64 from AMD, ARM from Nvidia). Coincidentally (or not), but they're also all in very close proximity in the Santa Clara valley. Guess it's not called Silicon Valley for nothing. Even RISC-V, which isn't owned of course being open source, was created by a US University... less than hour away from Santa Clara valley.

    15 votes
    1. [3]
      ohyran
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      First off "Europe" is a tricky group to define. The EU perhaps could have opinions but they wont - its an economic unit turned political midstride with basically no control over its own banking...

      First off "Europe" is a tricky group to define. The EU perhaps could have opinions but they wont - its an economic unit turned political midstride with basically no control over its own banking and corporate life since its a economic union at heart with its position well entrenched in neoliberal economical theory and t.

      Plus in this case its the UK's thing to deal with and to be brutally honest when you're tied over a barrel - complaining about fine detail isn't much of a possibility. Softbanks purchase was seen as a win for the UK postbrexit as it was some kind of sign-of-faith in the UK too so that has to smart.

      From a personal level - who cares? The EU, the US, China, its all interchangeable with whatever corporation or megastate holding the reins.

      My hopes is on RISC-V - since its open source it carries more trust than any of the others. Its origin is irrelevant at that point.

      9 votes
      1. vord
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        I mean, replace Europe with 'literally every other country outside the USA' and the general point still holds. I think the main concern is one of power. If all major mega-conglomerates are...

        I mean, replace Europe with 'literally every other country outside the USA' and the general point still holds.

        I think the main concern is one of power. If all major mega-conglomerates are US-based, it gives both the companies and the USA more power than if they were more evenly distributed.

        7 votes
      2. stu2b50
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        Certainly Europe's major powers do care about, they just can't seem to do anything about it. For example, Germany and France launced GAIA-X, an attempt to wrestle some cloud infrastracture into...

        Certainly Europe's major powers do care about, they just can't seem to do anything about it. For example, Germany and France launced GAIA-X, an attempt to wrestle some cloud infrastracture into EU.

        GAIA-X is a project initiated by Europe for Europe. Its aim is to develop common requirements for a European data infrastructure. Therefore openness, transparency and the ability to connect to other European countries are central to GAIA-X.

        It just... hasn't gotten anywhere.

        It's also why BAFIN were so lenient with Wirecard - it was one of the only rising tech companies in the continent, let alone the country.

        The EU, the US, China, its all interchangeable with whatever corporation or megastate holding the reins.

        Not really, for the people inside that state. In peacetime, perhaps, but in a cold war, tariffs and economic sanctions could mean some countries are hamstrung in negotiations when your entire technological infrastructure lives off of either a cloud host in the US or a cloud host in China.

        5 votes
  2. [3]
    ThyMrMan
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    Wow, seen the rumors for while now but seeing it actually happen is pretty big. Overall I'm hoping that Nvidia knows what they are doing, and is going to take things easy for awhile. Not make any...

    Wow, seen the rumors for while now but seeing it actually happen is pretty big. Overall I'm hoping that Nvidia knows what they are doing, and is going to take things easy for awhile. Not make any major changes or piss anybody off that much for awhile.

    7 votes
    1. [2]
      vord
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      Aquisitions like this should mandate that anybody currently licensing the tech should be granted full ownership to the tech they currently license. See also: Everything Oracle touches dies a...

      Aquisitions like this should mandate that anybody currently licensing the tech should be granted full ownership to the tech they currently license.

      See also: Everything Oracle touches dies a horrible death.

      4 votes
      1. tindall
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        Perhaps the better solution to this would simply be to modify IP law such that granting these exploitative licenses was no longer allowed.

        Perhaps the better solution to this would simply be to modify IP law such that granting these exploitative licenses was no longer allowed.

  3. arghdos
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    Love the crickets on the anti-trust considerations

    Love the crickets on the anti-trust considerations

    4 votes
  4. [2]
    teaearlgraycold
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    Should I expect NVidia's Tegra SOCs to improve after this acquisition?

    Should I expect NVidia's Tegra SOCs to improve after this acquisition?

    1 vote
    1. frostycakes
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      Probably not, Nvidia has held an architectural license for ARM (same as Apple/Qualcomm/Samsung/etc) for years and uses a custom armv8 design (Denver/Carmel) in (modern) Tegra chips.

      Probably not, Nvidia has held an architectural license for ARM (same as Apple/Qualcomm/Samsung/etc) for years and uses a custom armv8 design (Denver/Carmel) in (modern) Tegra chips.

      6 votes
  5. [2]
    wcerfgba
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    Petition to Boris Johnson: https://savearm.co.uk/

    Petition to Boris Johnson: https://savearm.co.uk/

    1 vote
    1. stu2b50
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      I have to say, not verifying the "signatories" at all on the internet is just asking for... well

      I have to say, not verifying the "signatories" at all on the internet is just asking for... well

      Recent Signatories:

      Leon Trotsky - CCCP Inc

      Joseph Stalin

      Richardo Stallmanu - Ganoo Loonix

      Skullface - XOF

      Tim - Apple

      Please close the open signature form, people are just abusing it. - Your friend

      4 votes